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Post by artfuldodger on Jul 5, 2020 14:39:55 GMT -5
How does David Price not playing this year affect the financial terms of the trade? Does Boston now have more room under the thresholds?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 5, 2020 15:32:11 GMT -5
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Post by marrcus on Jul 5, 2020 16:02:44 GMT -5
Puig would probably be a bargain compared to Myers but there are probably some others clubs might like to move as well. In this what could be a lost season? I still expect RS to spend to "Cap" but who knows what their thinking is for '20
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 5, 2020 16:49:00 GMT -5
Puig only makes sense to me on a multi-year deal as the JBJ replacement, since they can't use 2020 to evaluate Duran for that spot. Unless they see him as a Pillar upgrade, I guess?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 5, 2020 21:34:19 GMT -5
Puig only makes sense to me on a multi-year deal as the JBJ replacement, since they can't use 2020 to evaluate Duran for that spot. Unless they see him as a Pillar upgrade, I guess? You could be right they view him as a Pillar upgrade, but part of me doubts it and I'd also be pretty disappointed if that were the case. I doubt it because they committed to Pillar so recently I feel like they wouldn't feel it'd be prudent to move on a relatively redundant player. And that's why I'd be disappointed with it, signing a guy to essentially be redundant with a prior signing would be underwhelming. At least with Myers you are getting something back in the way of prospects. Unless you really believe in Puig long-term and think they're going to trade JBJ or something. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 5, 2020 23:40:16 GMT -5
First I have to admit to a perspective of finding it difficult to care about 2020. That said...\
1. If the Padres objective in trading Meyers and prospects was to reduce salary, Covid has already taken away a significant part of that incentive for them. I seriously doubt if the same offer would be on the table now.
2. If the Sox go for Puig, I would view it as a stepping stone to being able to add JBJ and Pillar to the mix of tradeable assets at trade deadline time. I am hoping Bloom takes advantage of an opportunity to rebuild the farm.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jul 6, 2020 11:12:15 GMT -5
More on the Padres situation from their owner:
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 6, 2020 12:14:25 GMT -5
First I have to admit to a perspective of finding it difficult to care about 2020. That said...\ 1. If the Padres objective in trading Meyers and prospects was to reduce salary, Covid has already taken away a significant part of that incentive for them. I seriously doubt if the same offer would be on the table now. 2. If the Sox go for Puig, I would view it as a stepping stone to being able to add JBJ and Pillar to the mix of tradeable assets at trade deadline time. I am hoping Bloom takes advantage of an opportunity to rebuild the farm. I'm not sure you understand what's happening to teams, especially teams in the go for it mode who set their budgets very high and left little room for profit. Pro-rated salaries are the same for those 60 games, but teams are losing 40% of income from no fans. Fixed expenses are still there. No agreement on new revenue like expanded playoffs and add patches for the players to wear. Many teams are going to lose money. Then good luck next year trying to find a team willing to take Meyers. With a depressed free agent market, his contract will look even worse. You've gained leverage in my opinion, not lost it. Overall spend the money on what will help you the most this year and in the future. For me that always seemed like trying to get some young pitching from the Padres. |
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Post by azblue on Jul 6, 2020 14:50:49 GMT -5
Heaven save the Red Sox from a headcase like Puig.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jul 6, 2020 14:51:39 GMT -5
I’d be all over Myers if it meant getting a legit prospect in return.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 6, 2020 15:45:39 GMT -5
I’d be all over Myers if it meant getting a legit prospect in return. It would be amazing if they could find a way to get Campusano and Quantrill. |
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jul 6, 2020 16:36:16 GMT -5
Given how little of Myers' money would count against the RS lux tax threshold, they should have a lot of room to bargain with SD. They could provide a lot of much-needed financial relief to SD without going over the threshold, expecially if the Price opt-out gives them even more room.
They should maximize the prospect return by offering to take on as much of Myers' salary as they can without going over the threshold.
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Post by kman22 on Jul 7, 2020 1:19:04 GMT -5
As mentioned above, I wonder if the pro-rated version of Myers' deal is as painful for the Padres. If not, tougher to see them parting ways with a prospect package to ris themselves of it.
That said, I really hope it is a possibility. I grew fond of a lot of their system this winter with all the Mookie rumors.
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Post by jdb on Jul 7, 2020 6:41:08 GMT -5
I’m with UMass here. I think if anything the lack of revenue from 81 homes games will hurt teams like SD’s bottom line. Sure he’s on a pro rated salary now but what about the other people in the organization? 10-20% paycuts? If Boston can reset we should be able to spend to our advantage. That could be free agents who aren’t getting the dollars or years or teams moving a bad contract and willing to attach a good prospect or two.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 7, 2020 12:37:45 GMT -5
For whatever it's worth, consider that the Red Sox implemented employee pay cuts as well. Even if they might be willing to take on Myers' contract to buy prospects, the optics on that alone would be horrible right now, which might deter them from doing so at this point in time.
That said, the issue with Myers' contract is it has 2 more years after this one (assuming you'd buy him out of the team option in '23). I think if the trade happens, it won't be until next spring, for these practical purposes.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 8, 2020 6:57:05 GMT -5
Heaven save the Red Sox from a headcase like Puig. Isn't baseball a team sport? How would be getting an all me guy and head case like Puig accomplish that? |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 8, 2020 16:15:17 GMT -5
Where were all these voices screaming to pay off that scrub Sandoval after injury number 1? many of us knew from the start he was a dud, given 100m after nothing more than a hot post season, the worst of reasons to give out a LT deal, like Joe kelly's by LA, but we all KNEW there was no chance he was going to return a nickel of his contract and sit out every last day, or get released and take the money and run!
Let pedroia collect his contract in peace and stop trying to find ways to cheat the guy out of it, he's done more for this team with his heart and soul (and hustle) than any player i can remember in a few decades.
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Post by thankumrboggs on Jul 9, 2020 20:28:36 GMT -5
Where were all these voices screaming to pay off that scrub Sandoval after injury number 1? many of us knew from the start he was a dud, given 100m after nothing more than a hot post season, the worst of reasons to give out a LT deal, like Joe kelly's by LA, but we all KNEW there was no chance he was going to return a nickel of his contract and sit out every last day, or get released and take the money and run! Let pedroia collect his contract in peace and stop trying to find ways to cheat the guy out of it, he's done more for this team with his heart and soul (and hustle) than any player i can remember in a few decades. Not trying to cheat him at all, just trying to clear as much as possible for 2021. We play Atl, NYY, NYM, PHI, TB, so let's just try and let everyone grow this season and hopefully we get a 2/3 healthy season from Sale next year and we can see what we have. I would pay him off and clear him from next year, never want to push him out. I have a jersey tshirt that has his number on the back it may be his size with 2 X in front of it. |
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