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Post by soxin8 on Oct 10, 2020 17:38:14 GMT -5
I was looking back at some old threads and noticed steveofbradenton started an off season thread analyzing the Sox competition in the AL east for the upcoming 2013 season. He ended his first post by bolding "Is this, and maybe next year, their best chance to win a World Championship?" Don't know if steve ever got congratulated for his prediction and optimism following a dismal 2012 year. Here's one from me 8 years later.  In the just completed division series thread, unitspin mentioned it will be fun to watch the Yankees find 3 starters and try to get under the cap. Here is their current situation: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hl2xgQQReB8qPSoa2YAaDcBfkw0qYeFQFizVP3m2JZs/edit#gid=1520401900As far as starters, remember Severino will be coming back from injury and German will be returning from his suspension. Montgomery and Deivi Garcia arrived with some success and could fill spots. I am sure they are hoping Tanaka will return on a more team friendly contract. They also will probably be in play for the same incentive contracts we have discussed for the Sox like Kluber and Hill. Looking at Cot's, there is a lot of money coming off the books next year and Cashman has performed well (minus the championships). Cot's has them with almost 75MM to spend (although some of that will be arbitration raises). I expect a strong battle in the division next year. As James Dunne said in the SoxProspects ranking discussion thread, Tampa looks to be strong for awhile. After all their years in the basement, it will be strange to see Boston and NY trying to overtake Tampa. |
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Post by ramireja on Oct 10, 2020 23:58:45 GMT -5
I was looking back at some old threads and noticed steveofbradenton started an off season thread analyzing the Sox competition in the AL east for the upcoming 2013 season. He ended his first post by bolding "Is this, and maybe next year, their best chance to win a World Championship?" Don't know if steve ever got congratulated for his prediction and optimism following a dismal 2012 year. Here's one from me 8 years later. In the just completed division series thread, unitspin mentioned it will be fun to watch the Yankees find 3 starters and try to get under the cap. Here is their current situation: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hl2xgQQReB8qPSoa2YAaDcBfkw0qYeFQFizVP3m2JZs/edit#gid=1520401900As far as starters, remember Severino will be coming back from injury and German will be returning from his suspension. Montgomery and Deivi Garcia arrived with some success and could fill spots. I am sure they are hoping Tanaka will return on a more team friendly contract. They also will probably be in play for the same incentive contracts we have discussed for the Sox like Kluber and Hill. Looking at Cot's, there is a lot of money coming off the books next year and Cashman has performed well (minus the championships). Cot's has them with almost 75MM to spend (although some of that will be arbitration raises). I expect a strong battle in the division next year. As James Dunne said in the SoxProspects ranking discussion thread, Tampa looks to be strong for awhile. After all their years in the basement, it will be strange to see Boston and NY trying to overtake Tampa. Its worth noting that they have a lot of core players eligible for arbitration (Judge, Gleyber, Sanchez, Urshela, Chad Green, Frazier, etc.) and they won't be necessarily cheap. I think of the $75M in spending money...about $40M needs to go to arb players. Thats not careful math on my part, but I do know its a significant chunk, so I think their available $ for FAs may not be what it seems. It will be interesting to see the extent they lean on the likes of Severino, German, and Deivi Garcia for the rotation. |
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Post by unitspin on Oct 11, 2020 8:11:30 GMT -5
I was looking back at some old threads and noticed steveofbradenton started an off season thread analyzing the Sox competition in the AL east for the upcoming 2013 season. He ended his first post by bolding "Is this, and maybe next year, their best chance to win a World Championship?" Don't know if steve ever got congratulated for his prediction and optimism following a dismal 2012 year. Here's one from me 8 years later. In the just completed division series thread, unitspin mentioned it will be fun to watch the Yankees find 3 starters and try to get under the cap. Here is their current situation: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hl2xgQQReB8qPSoa2YAaDcBfkw0qYeFQFizVP3m2JZs/edit#gid=1520401900As far as starters, remember Severino will be coming back from injury and German will be returning from his suspension. Montgomery and Deivi Garcia arrived with some success and could fill spots. I am sure they are hoping Tanaka will return on a more team friendly contract. They also will probably be in play for the same incentive contracts we have discussed for the Sox like Kluber and Hill. Looking at Cot's, there is a lot of money coming off the books next year and Cashman has performed well (minus the championships). Cot's has them with almost 75MM to spend (although some of that will be arbitration raises). I expect a strong battle in the division next year. As James Dunne said in the SoxProspects ranking discussion thread, Tampa looks to be strong for awhile. After all their years in the basement, it will be strange to see Boston and NY trying to overtake Tampa. Its worth noting that they have a lot of core players eligible for arbitration (Judge, Gleyber, Sanchez, Urshela, Chad Green, Frazier, etc.) and they won't be necessarily cheap. I think of the $75M in spending money...about $40M needs to go to arb players. Thats not careful math on my part, but I do know its a significant chunk, so I think their available $ for FAs may not be what it seems. It will be interesting to see the extent they lean on the likes of Severino, German, and Deivi Garcia for the rotation. Judge alone could command 15-20 mil in arbitration bcs it is his last year. Severino has not pitched much in 2 plus years I wouldnt expect him to be much of an arm they can rely on. I think the yanks are in a tough spot much like the red sox where this season. Tampa and Toronto might be the teams to worry about in the AL east. If next season is 162 games the yanks pitching will be spotlighted. It's funny we worry about our Sp and we could have the second best rotation in the division next season. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 11, 2020 11:12:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the "shoutout" Soxin8! Yeah I was a lot smarter 8 years ago, but I still can give back 5 words given to me an hour later. Lol. Let's see...man, women....on s&$t I forgot! I better REV up my helicopter and get to Walter Reed.
WAIT....I don't have one. VOTE everyone.
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Post by sean1562 on Oct 14, 2020 10:04:39 GMT -5
When looking ahead at the Rays, I do not see how they can keep their roster together after next season. Baseballref has their estimated payroll, including arb awards, jumping up to $173.5 million in 2022. Diaz, Meadows, Adames, and Wendle all hit arbitration that season and Glasnow is up for arb after this one. Losing Morton's salary next season keeps their payroll in that $75 mil range they seem to max out at for next season, but I can't see them holding on to a lot of those guys once they start to get expensive. Adames seems like a prime trade candidate considering they have Franco in the wings. The Rays are a great org but there is a reason they have issues staying consistently at the top of the AL East. They are due for a retooling pretty soon.
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Post by orion09 on Oct 14, 2020 11:20:17 GMT -5
When looking ahead at the Rays, I do not see how they can keep their roster together after next season. Baseballref has their estimated payroll, including arb awards, jumping up to $173.5 million in 2022. Diaz, Meadows, Adames, and Wendle all hit arbitration that season and Glasnow is up for arb after this one. Losing Morton's salary next season keeps their payroll in that $75 mil range they seem to max out at for next season, but I can't see them holding on to a lot of those guys once they start to get expensive. Adames seems like a prime trade candidate considering they have Franco in the wings. The Rays are a great org but there is a reason they have issues staying consistently at the top of the AL East. They are due for a retooling pretty soon. Welcome to the board |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Oct 14, 2020 12:58:40 GMT -5
When looking ahead at the Rays, I do not see how they can keep their roster together after next season. Baseballref has their estimated payroll, including arb awards, jumping up to $173.5 million in 2022. Diaz, Meadows, Adames, and Wendle all hit arbitration that season and Glasnow is up for arb after this one. Losing Morton's salary next season keeps their payroll in that $75 mil range they seem to max out at for next season, but I can't see them holding on to a lot of those guys once they start to get expensive. Adames seems like a prime trade candidate considering they have Franco in the wings. The Rays are a great org but there is a reason they have issues staying consistently at the top of the AL East. They are due for a retooling pretty soon. You are right that they are going to need to shed some salary but, when you look at their farm system, it is pretty easy to imagine how they can stay consistently at the top of the AL East. Especially when you consider whoever they trade is going to fetch decent returns as well. They're still pretty well set up. |
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