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ianrs
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Post by ianrs on Mar 29, 2021 21:04:18 GMT -5
Fournier shooting 0-9 lol this franchise might be cursed. I had to say something about him being better than our bench and he somehow cleared the bar even lower than I thought humanly possible, like much worse than Semi and Carsen lmao
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 29, 2021 21:07:42 GMT -5
Fournier shooting 0-9 lol this franchise might be cursed. Didn't look good doing it either. I think he finished 0-10 or 11. Why can't we sign someone good like Jeff Teague?
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Post by cdj on Mar 29, 2021 21:12:46 GMT -5
My only problem with Marcus tonight was when there was that jump ball and Marcus thought we only had 0.3 seconds to shoot when it was the pelicans that only had that
Idiot launched it
Welcome to the team Fournier, time is a flat circle
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 29, 2021 21:16:46 GMT -5
My only problem with Marcus tonight was when there was that jump ball and Marcus thought we only had 0.3 seconds to shoot when it was the pelicans that only had that Idiot launched it Welcome to the team Fournier, time is a flat circle Marcus calls his number way too often considering he often shares the floor with Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and Kemba Walker. His biggest strength on offense by far is his playmaking, yet he goes away from it far too often. And worse, he’s allowed to take about 2-5 I’ll-advised shots per game without being held accountable. That feels like bad coaching to me.
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Post by ianrs on Mar 29, 2021 21:17:17 GMT -5
My only problem with Marcus tonight was when there was that jump ball and Marcus thought we only had 0.3 seconds to shoot when it was the pelicans that only had that Idiot launched it Welcome to the team Fournier, time is a flat circle It's worse than that, though, and highlights an issue I've had with him playing and acting above his weight. He doubled down on his decision and got angry at Kemba calling him out, then made an absolutely garbage decision the next play with a bad shot. Marcus is tiring me so, so often this year. For every 7 3s game and effort game he has 3 bad decision games, and he really hasn't taken the skill steps forward he should have in his peak years. He's a fine rotation player but barks way above his weight and is not essential to the team. My thesis summed up more succinctly: Smart is becoming more annoying to watch and root for, so I imagine it's becoming more annoying to play on his team. I'm probably projecting and over exaggerating, but the way he reacted to Kemba was bs.
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 29, 2021 22:00:52 GMT -5
Something's got to give...either Danny or Brad or both. This team is going south. I agree with an above poster that Smart's sometimes great defensive plays are often outweighed by offensive fauxpas. On a very good team, he is an asset with spirit and tenacity...a potential difference maker. On this team, the act is getting tired.
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 30, 2021 9:03:22 GMT -5
Momentary disappointment posted above. 'The sun will rise, the sun will set and I'll have lunch'...Cs look like they are entrenched in mediocrity tho...
Lakers and Nets vying, by buying, championship quality teams...
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 30, 2021 10:37:09 GMT -5
Reports say the Celtics have a chance at Cousins, Warriors/Heat also in the mix. That should have been your top target, Cousins has long been the perfect target given what he can do as a big. www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/celtics-romeo-langford-cleared-for-full-training/Why is Langford getting a cardiac screening? I haven't seen anywhere that he actually got Covid. Why is Thompson still out? Did they stop reporting positive tests, because I'm not understanding why these two guys have been out so long just for protocol
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Post by cdj on Mar 30, 2021 11:50:20 GMT -5
Reports say the Celtics have a chance at Cousins, Warriors/Heat also in the mix. That should have been your top target, Cousins has long been the perfect target given what he can do as a big. www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/celtics-romeo-langford-cleared-for-full-training/Why is Langford getting a cardiac screening? I haven't seen anywhere that he actually got Covid. Why is Thompson still out? Did they stop reporting positive tests, because I'm not understanding why these two guys have been out so long just for protocol Agreed on Boogie I think Langford has been in covid protocol since the break iirc. If he has myocarditis I quit
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 30, 2021 13:52:12 GMT -5
No Langford's test came back negative, he's been cleared to play. Yet needs time to get game ready.
It sure seems the NBA has stopped openly reporting who gets Covid, by just saying everyone is in Covid protocols. Three weeks and a cardiac screening tells me Langford had Covid. Tristan Thompson being out two weeks now, is telling me he has Covid, Cam Newton returned to game action quicker and he had it.
It's just a major change from Robert Williams and Tatum. We got reports they had it and even details on how bad it was with each of them. With Langford and Thompson it was made to seem like it was just tracing because they were in close contact or broke the rules.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 30, 2021 15:15:44 GMT -5
Momentary disappointment posted above. 'The sun will rise, the sun will set and I'll have lunch'...Cs look like they are entrenched in mediocrity tho... Lakers and Nets vying, by buying, championship quality teams... You mean for this year or going forward... Because Tatum just turned 23 and Brown is still 24. Tatum has already even second team all nba and is a 2 time all-star and brown is also an all-star on the rise. Those guys don’t destine any team to be entrench in mediocrity. Tatum’s said it multiple times now and including recently... he hasn’t fully recovered from COVID. His game shows it. There’s something missing energy wise. Hopefully a real offseason will fix that.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 30, 2021 16:11:21 GMT -5
I really don't notice an energy issue with Tatum, I do notice an iso issue with Tatum. He's basically at LeBron James peak numbers when he was on crappy teams like Cavs without Irving, first year with Lakers, you have to go back to like 2009-2010 to see him taking so many unassisted shots. Tatum's numbers are staggering compared to even last year. Tatum needs to play better team ball.
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 30, 2021 19:52:09 GMT -5
Momentary disappointment posted above. 'The sun will rise, the sun will set and I'll have lunch'...Cs look like they are entrenched in mediocrity tho... Lakers and Nets vying, by buying, championship quality teams... You mean for this year or going forward... Because Tatum just turned 23 and Brown is still 24. Tatum has already even second team all nba and is a 2 time all-star and brown is also an all-star on the rise. Those guys don’t destine any team to be entrench in mediocrity. Tatum’s said it multiple times now and including recently... he hasn’t fully recovered from COVID. His game shows it. There’s something missing energy wise. Hopefully a real offseason will fix that. Do you feel the Cs are going anywhere this year? Yeah we've got 2 all-stars but the team is playing un-Celtic type ball. Iso, iso, iso. To your point, Tatum does not look terribly bushed now. Historically we've done well by not playing Kobe or MJ hero ball but that is where we are trending IMO. So if we need to do that to be anywhere near competitive (or our stars and/or coach feel that way), we have to get better players to generate team confidence and share the load. And if the roster is deemed talent deficient, then Danny is a pinatta. Now maybe Romeo helps finally when and if, and maybe Nesmith progresses to elevate the team play/talent level. But that is for next year and beyond... After a championship sniff last year, we are curently in some 'danger' of dropping to the lottery this season. As a sage once said, 'our record is who we are'. IMO, Danny has opted out this year with his eyes on next year and beyond. Our pickups at the deadline don't move the current needle...
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 31, 2021 0:02:58 GMT -5
I actually like the current configuration of the team, when healthy. If you can add an impact buyout guy your closer than it would seem talent wise. I'd say Cousins because he'd had scoring, yet Porter Jr. is a darn good fit also. I'm not saying true title contender, yet that's enough talent to have a chance in just about any series.
This team needs to get healthy, play together and gel. Fournier alone is going to be big. Maybe better options and health can snap Tatum out of his iso heavy game. There's no more big reasons for excuses.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 31, 2021 0:30:54 GMT -5
I second that Otto Porter would be a great fit. He's a fantastic shooter who would fit right in nicely. You could, situationally, play him alongside Brown, Tatum, Fournier and Grant to open everyone and do a crazy shooting line-up with everyone being pretty much the same size. That would give teams some fits.
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 31, 2021 6:54:08 GMT -5
We have to have an attractive enough team to get a buyout guy.
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Post by mobaz on Mar 31, 2021 8:46:22 GMT -5
Otto Porter feels like he should be 31+ or something, but he's only 27. Celts offer him a chance to play meaningful games, and he has a role (though he overlaps with Fournier a little). I'd rather him than Drummond, who would have mucked up the big man rotation too much and overlapped with TT.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 31, 2021 8:52:11 GMT -5
Feels like they really need a ball handler though, no? With Kemba not playing back-to-back and Pritchard playing more like a wing often, seems like a 3rd guy there would be beneficial. Even if he's spending more time on the ball, you'd still think protection against the rookie wall would be ideal.
Crazily, I would've said someone like Jeff Teague but the, you know, I watched him play.
(To be fair, if he was only used as a "3rd PG" it probably would've looked a lot better).
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 31, 2021 8:54:41 GMT -5
Feels like they really need a ball handler though, no? With Kemba not playing back-to-back and Pritchard playing more like a wing often, seems like a 3rd guy there would be beneficial. Even if he's spending more time on the ball, you'd still think protection against the rookie wall would be ideal. Crazily, I would've said someone like Jeff Teague but the, you know, I watched him play. (To be fair, if he was only used as a "3rd PG" it probably would've looked a lot better). Pritchard is being used that way to get him minutes. I don’t think it’s because they have an issue with him as a PG.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 31, 2021 8:56:49 GMT -5
You mean for this year or going forward... Because Tatum just turned 23 and Brown is still 24. Tatum has already even second team all nba and is a 2 time all-star and brown is also an all-star on the rise. Those guys don’t destine any team to be entrench in mediocrity. Tatum’s said it multiple times now and including recently... he hasn’t fully recovered from COVID. His game shows it. There’s something missing energy wise. Hopefully a real offseason will fix that. Do you feel the Cs are going anywhere this year? Yeah we've got 2 all-stars but the team is playing un-Celtic type ball. Iso, iso, iso. To your point, Tatum does not look terribly bushed now. Historically we've done well by not playing Kobe or MJ hero ball but that is where we are trending IMO. So if we need to do that to be anywhere near competitive (or our stars and/or coach feel that way), we have to get better players to generate team confidence and share the load. And if the roster is deemed talent deficient, then Danny is a pinatta. Now maybe Romeo helps finally when and if, and maybe Nesmith progresses to elevate the team play/talent level. But that is for next year and beyond... After a championship sniff last year, we are curently in some 'danger' of dropping to the lottery this season. As a sage once said, 'our record is who we are'. IMO, Danny has opted out this year with his eyes on next year and beyond. Our pickups at the deadline don't move the current needle... I was only asking if you meant mediocrity for this season. I understand people feeling that way. Personally, I can see them missing the playoffs and making a deep run. There’s still that range of outcome with them. If you meant in the years ahead then I’d disagree.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 31, 2021 10:32:33 GMT -5
I can certainly see the need at PG, dumping Teague when he actually just started playing well is risky. There's almost nothing at PG available. I have to believe Danny wants Pritchard playing PG and is forcing Steven's hand. Which makes sense, you aren't getting a PG with more upside than Pritchard. It's risky, Smart gets Injured all the time and Pritchard's a rookie. I just think a big part of the trades were to force Steven's hand with Pritchard and Robert Williams. Getting him to play the right guys in the roles Danny wants is better than extra depth if Steven's makes Pritchard a SG and plays Theis/Thompson over Robert Williams.
So I go for the biggest impact players Cousins, Porter Jr., then I'd say Avery Bradley if you wanted Guard depth in that order.
I'd love to see Steven's start working his Magic on Edwards to start turning him into a PG. He's one of the most improved players on the team since last year, he actually looks like he belongs in the NBA.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 31, 2021 10:56:43 GMT -5
Cousins talking to Clippers about a 10 day contract.
Makes sense to go “risky” at the point. No PG addition is going to offset the loss of a Smart or Walker. If those things happen, you’re kind of screwed for the season but are better off long term with a guy like Pritchard getting significant minutes. Maybe he steps up.
I’m curious if they Celtics really went to add someone. First, they are barely under the tax so can they stay under if they add a guy? One question I have about that is I believe they are getting a cap credit for Jaylen Brown due to games played incentives or something not being met... so maybe that makes being under the tax a guarantee. Secondly, do you really want to waive Kornet?
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 31, 2021 12:25:12 GMT -5
Secondly, do you really want to waive Kornet? I'd waive Semi.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 31, 2021 13:01:41 GMT -5
Per reports were just under a million under, so you can afford a pro-rated veteran minimum contract. They didn't chase Drummond's because they couldn't sign him.
The question with Cousins is can you get closer to the GSW version than what he did in limited games this year? I take that gamble, he'd be a great fit to finish out his career here. The way this teams playing though isn't making it easy to attract players currently.
Porter Jr. Again if you can get him, yes you make that move.
Bradley, I'd make that move given he knows the systems and should get up to speed quickly. Yet I can see where maybe Danny doesn't want to give Steven's too many options where crap happens.
Is Kornet worth keeping? Well which Kornet are we getting? He's been a crazy streaky shooter from deep for eight years now. The homer version is that he was rather good for three years, the Bulls didn't use him correctly, so yeah we should keep him.
For Cousins you dump Wagner or Kornet, I don't really care because neither will have a big role.
Porter Jr. You could look at cutting Semi because we'd play small ball a lot more with him. I'd expect a 50-50 mix at SF and PF. Gives you another guy besides just Tatum to play at PF and go small.
Bradley, this get's hard and why he's last on my list.
My prediction is they don't make a move because they can't get these guys given our record. I'll give Danny big props if he can pull off a decent add on.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 31, 2021 17:31:20 GMT -5
Per reports were just under a million under, so you can afford a pro-rated veteran minimum contract. They didn't chase Drummond's because they couldn't sign him. The question with Cousins is can you get closer to the GSW version than what he did in limited games this year? I take that gamble, he'd be a great fit to finish out his career here. The way this teams playing though isn't making it easy to attract players currently. Porter Jr. Again if you can get him, yes you make that move. Bradley, I'd make that move given he knows the systems and should get up to speed quickly. Yet I can see where maybe Danny doesn't want to give Steven's too many options where crap happens. Is Kornet worth keeping? Well which Kornet are we getting? He's been a crazy streaky shooter from deep for eight years now. The homer version is that he was rather good for three years, the Bulls didn't use him correctly, so yeah we should keep him. For Cousins you dump Wagner or Kornet, I don't really care because neither will have a big role. Porter Jr. You could look at cutting Semi because we'd play small ball a lot more with him. I'd expect a 50-50 mix at SF and PF. Gives you another guy besides just Tatum to play at PF and go small. Bradley, this get's hard and why he's last on my list. My prediction is they don't make a move because they can't get these guys given our record. I'll give Danny big props if he can pull off a decent add on. I thought the luxury tax / salary cap doesn’t work off of prorated salaries.
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