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Post by Smittyw on Jan 9, 2021 16:25:02 GMT -5
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Post by redsox3in10 on Jan 9, 2021 16:28:52 GMT -5
Interesting and plausible. Bowden doesn't exactly have a great track record of being correct and/or breaking news though, so ...
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Post by Smittyw on Jan 9, 2021 16:30:37 GMT -5
Interesting and plausible. Bowden doesn't exactly have a great track record of being correct and/or breaking news though, so ... My first thought, but I'll take any hint of a rumor of something possibly happening at this point.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Jan 9, 2021 16:59:45 GMT -5
I think the White Sox line up well. They could put Eloy Jimenez at DH and stick Benintendi in LF. I wonder who they're targeting for outfielders if they trade Benintendi.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 9, 2021 17:18:48 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 9, 2021 17:24:35 GMT -5
I think the White Sox line up well. They could put Eloy Jimenez at DH and stick Benintendi in LF. I wonder who they're targeting for outfielders if they trade Benintendi. Brantley would be nice but probably wouldn't want to turn around and pay him after dealing beni. If I had to guess Rosario would make sense.
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Post by mg050369 on Jan 9, 2021 17:29:15 GMT -5
I'm pessimistic it will lead to anything. However, playing along, my totally irresponsible guesses on possible team and prospect fits (of and/or pitching): ATL OF Michael Harris and P Freddy Tarnok CHW. P Matthew Thompson HOU OF Jordan Brewer and SP Tyler Brown MIN. OF Matt Walner
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Post by manfred on Jan 9, 2021 18:31:32 GMT -5
I'm pessimistic it will lead to anything. However, playing along, my totally irresponsible guesses on possible team and prospect fits (of and/or pitching): ATL OF Michael Harris and P Freddy Tarnok CHW. P Matthew Thompson HOU OF Jordan Brewer and SP Tyler Brown MIN. OF Matt Walner This is depressing. If Beni busts or they sell low, what a fall. Dude was one of the top prospects in the game... a cautionary tale for folks slotting prospects in starting roles in the next few years. Is anyone in the system as big a prospect as Beni was at his peak (not a snarky question... legit asking).
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Post by soxaddict on Jan 9, 2021 18:40:37 GMT -5
Braves are a perfect match. Inciarte plus prospects. Inciarte, 21:$8M, 22:$9M club option ($1.025M buyout). AAV:$6.105M. They’ve got plenty of MLB ready arms.
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Post by greenmonster on Jan 9, 2021 18:54:14 GMT -5
Braves are a perfect match. Inciarte plus prospects. Inciarte, 21:$8M, 22:$9M club option ($1.025M buyout). AAV:$6.105M. They’ve got plenty of MLB ready arms. A similar trade might work with the Rays for KK and a couple prospects or with the Padres for Myers and a couple prospects.
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Post by nomar on Jan 9, 2021 19:33:35 GMT -5
I’d much rather roll the dice on Myers who still has a high offensive ceiling than go high floor low ceiling like KK or Inciarte.
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Post by greenmonster on Jan 9, 2021 20:20:29 GMT -5
I’d much rather roll the dice on Myers who still has a high offensive ceiling than go high floor low ceiling like KK or Inciarte. Either scenario they need to add an OFer. Trade with the Braves or Rays and you need to add a corner OFer (Brantley, Puig, Rosario, Ozuna, etc). Trade with the Padres and you need to add a CFer (JBJ, ?) or move Verdugo to CF and add a corner OFer
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Post by unitspin on Jan 9, 2021 20:35:38 GMT -5
It would be disappointing if they sold low on Benny. He still has so much time before he can be called a "bust". One full season could change those who are jumping the gun on him.
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Post by blizzards39 on Jan 9, 2021 20:45:02 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure the FO is just exploring all options. Once they start on a path it will start to close doors. Sox have lots of needs, so be patient and let the deals come to you. If somebody wants to overpay for X player then make the deal. Nobody should be untouchable. There is still 5 weeks ( maybe longer) until ST. Patients will be rewarded.
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Post by rasimon on Jan 9, 2021 20:45:54 GMT -5
I’d much rather roll the dice on Myers who still has a high offensive ceiling than go high floor low ceiling like KK or Inciarte. Either scenario they need to add an OFer. Trade with the Braves or Rays and you need to add a corner OFer (Brantley, Puig, Rosario, Ozuna, etc). Trade with the Padres and you need to add a CFer (JBJ, ?) or move Verdugo to CF and add a corner OFer Wondering if the Cubs would have any interest in Beni + 10-20 ranked prospect for Kris Bryant
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Jan 9, 2021 21:03:27 GMT -5
It would be disappointing if they sold low on Benny. He still has so much time before he can be called a "bust". One full season could change those who are jumping the gun on him. I feel as though Benintendi is the most replaceable player on this roster. You could sign a Ozuna, Adam Duval, trade for Bryant, Rosario. There still should be value for Benintendi. Benintendi has no long term future here. Verdugo has already surpassed him in terms of players you should probably extend, along with Devers and probably Eduardo Rodriguez.
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Post by soxaddict on Jan 9, 2021 21:07:27 GMT -5
I’d much rather roll the dice on Myers who still has a high offensive ceiling than go high floor low ceiling like KK or Inciarte. Just judging by the current direction, bringing in Renfroe, Inciarte looks like the easiest deal, IMO. He’s owed just a tad more money than Benny and will be gone after 2021. He gives the Sox a CF option, and his salary is virtually a wash in AAV. The Braves have plenty of MLB ready arms and we could fill multiple holes for 2021 without adding salary. Myers definitely has the most offensive upside. Salary wise it just makes a deal much more complex. He’s owed $46M over 21 and 22. The Friars would have to eat a significant amount of cash or really pony up some decent prospect capital. Then do you put him in LF, move Verdugo to CF, Renfroe in RF and find a LH platoon bat? Or bring back JBJ, Renfroe in LF, Myers at 1B and trade Dalbec for pitching? KK is owed $26M over the next two years. He’s great defensively but sucks with the bat. Not to mention, I’d hate to see Benny bounce back in Tampa and kill us over the next two seasons.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Jan 9, 2021 21:11:47 GMT -5
I’d much rather roll the dice on Myers who still has a high offensive ceiling than go high floor low ceiling like KK or Inciarte. The Padres are about to sign Fernando Tatis Jr. to a 11 year 320 million dollar extension. I might be wrong, but the Padres have got to be running out of money at some point. I don't know how they can actually keep Myers now after this extension. There's got to be something brewing here.
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Post by unitspin on Jan 9, 2021 21:24:42 GMT -5
It would be disappointing if they sold low on Benny. He still has so much time before he can be called a "bust". One full season could change those who are jumping the gun on him. I feel as though Benintendi is the most replaceable player on this roster. You could sign a Ozuna, Adam Duval, trade for Bryant, Rosario. There still should be value for Benintendi. Benintendi has no long term future here. Verdugo has already surpassed him in terms of players you should probably extend, along with Devers and probably Eduardo Rodriguez. I'll put this in the bank and rehash this at the end of the year with you.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Jan 9, 2021 21:26:21 GMT -5
I feel as though Benintendi is the most replaceable player on this roster. You could sign a Ozuna, Adam Duval, trade for Bryant, Rosario. There still should be value for Benintendi. Benintendi has no long term future here. Verdugo has already surpassed him in terms of players you should probably extend, along with Devers and probably Eduardo Rodriguez. I'll put this in the bank and rehash this at the end of the year with you. Okay yeah sure whatever, but revisionist history never works and he still has no future here long term regardless. Everything about what I said is true.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Jan 9, 2021 21:47:52 GMT -5
Braves are a perfect match. Â Inciarte plus prospects. Â Inciarte, 21:$8M, 22:$9M club option ($1.025M buyout). Â AAV:$6.105M. Â Theyâve got plenty of MLB ready arms. Yeah Braves are a great fit too after losing Ozuna. Maybe the Sox are working to get both Inciarte and Will Myers for prospects from both teams. Inciarte and a Kiké Hernandez platoon in CF might work for a year.
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Post by cdj on Jan 9, 2021 22:02:57 GMT -5
I mean if Atlanta wants to add a bonafide young rotation piece then sure, but I really don’t have interest in Inciarte. He’s not a good hitter and the defense is trending down
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Post by greenmonster on Jan 9, 2021 22:09:38 GMT -5
The difference between Inciarte and Benny's salary is not that much to warrant including prospects. If the discussion is about two prospects as rumored, then the Sox most likely would be taking on more salary. Gotta figure Myers makes the most sense given SD's recent salary additions and pending Tatis, Jr extension.
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Post by cdj on Jan 9, 2021 22:57:20 GMT -5
The difference between Inciarte and Benny's salary is not that much to warrant including prospects. If the discussion is about two prospects as rumored, then the Sox most likely would be taking on more salary. Gotta figure Myers makes the most sense given SD's recent salary additions and pending Tatis, Jr extension. I think the difference in upside is enough to warrant including prospects. I’d much rather have Benintendi than Inciarte
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 9, 2021 23:16:46 GMT -5
I'm pessimistic it will lead to anything. However, playing along, my totally irresponsible guesses on possible team and prospect fits (of and/or pitching): ATL OF Michael Harris and P Freddy Tarnok CHW. P Matthew Thompson HOU OF Jordan Brewer and SP Tyler Brown MIN. OF Matt Walner This is depressing. If Beni busts or they sell low, what a fall. Dude was one of the top prospects in the game... a cautionary tale for folks slotting prospects in starting roles in the next few years. Is anyone in the system as big a prospect as Beni was at his peak (not a snarky question... legit asking). How is it a cautionary tale? He was a 3 WAR/yr player for the first three years of his career. It's not like they rushed him and he failed or something.
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