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Post by unitspin on Mar 27, 2021 10:30:46 GMT -5
Matt Barnes tested positive for COVID, per Abraham. Hoping he's asymptomatic and can return in normal time. I guess it'll help the bullpen crunch temporarily. How many players who had contact will be out (for at least ST) games? I was just thinking the same thing. Bad timing as well they start the season with a pretty favorable schedule for April. Hopefully its not too many BP arms, there going to need alot of innings out of them this season.
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Post by jimoh on Mar 27, 2021 10:34:41 GMT -5
So you think he has a dead arm in a way that is related to his injury history? How is dead arm related to his injury history? Yes you have successfully repeated my question back to me. Can you explain what you think the connection is between the dead arm and his injury history?
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Mar 27, 2021 10:44:13 GMT -5
How many players who had contact will be out (for at least ST) games? I was just thinking the same thing. Bad timing as well they start the season with a pretty favorable schedule for April. Hopefully its not too many BP arms, there going to need alot of innings out of them this season. I do not know what the Red Sox see in Brewer. He has been bad for the last two years. Even in a small sample size 4 HRs in 6 1/3 innings.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Mar 27, 2021 12:47:59 GMT -5
Arroyo belongs on the bench
I'd start Chavis most days 2B Until his performance Indicates otherwise
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Post by congusgambler33 on Mar 27, 2021 12:53:39 GMT -5
I think it is absolutely ridiculous that NESN is not carrying this game on NESN+. NESN classics can wait.
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Post by blizzards39 on Mar 27, 2021 13:01:17 GMT -5
How many players who had contact will be out (for at least ST) games? I was just thinking the same thing. Bad timing as well they start the season with a pretty favorable schedule for April. Hopefully its not too many BP arms, there going to need alot of innings out of them this season. Matt Andreise for one. 7 inning game with Politi starting and still in. This could be very bad. Hopefully by Thursday it’s figured out. On the good side Barnes is asymtomatic so hopefully he is not held up to much
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Post by jimoh on Mar 27, 2021 14:26:17 GMT -5
Watching the game on mlb.tv. Jiminez did have a caught stealing, but he had gotten on base by hitting a hot smash right at the 2b, who quickly shuffled it to the SS for the force at 2nd and throw to first, which Jiminez beat. Hard to imagine a more tailor made double play, but he beat it.
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Post by blizzards39 on Mar 27, 2021 14:55:28 GMT -5
Watching Matt Hall finish that game was like reliving a terrible nightmare.
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Post by unitspin on Mar 27, 2021 15:01:02 GMT -5
How is dead arm related to his injury history? [br Yes you have successfully repeated my question back to me. Can you explain what you think the connection is between the dead arm and his injury history? Correct you'll have to explain to me where and when I ever said a supposed dead arm issue is related to his other injury history. It seems you pulled that out of no where. So , yes explain to me please, is a dead arm injury tied into his past history?
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Post by ericmvan on Mar 27, 2021 15:13:25 GMT -5
Dead arm refers to a labrum injury that prevents full extension of the arm in the throwing position. If there is any significant tear, then rest is frequently not curative. This is not just a tired arm. It is an injured shoulder, and it is a cause for concern, especially if ERod is not able to return after missing just a week or so. Jumping from "dead arm" to a labrum injury is a pretty presumptuous leap without any additional information. Most of the time dead arm is just a fancy term for fatigue and that happens to tons of pitchers during spring training. Your muscles aren't quite in the peak condition they'd generally be in during the season so you don't bounce back in between starts as easily. A little extra rest and conditioning takes care of this issue for most. I would direct you to the video from Baseball USA, found by googling "dead arm baseball", in which a shoulder expert explains the meaning of the term in medical language. Now, you may be right that the Red Sox are using the term generically but, if so, they are wrong. The term has specific meaning, and my guess is that they do not know the reason for ERod's problem but are hoping that it is just tiredness and not injury. If he misses more than one start, it will likely signify something more. There are a lot of terms that are used differently by specialists (especially medical) than by jus' plain folk. Cora said "I think it's just a dead arm" and Pete Abraham explained that the term as Cora was using it means fatigue rather than injury.
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Post by ericmvan on Mar 27, 2021 15:32:52 GMT -5
Is there any rational justification for Brewer to make the roster? His phenomenal spin rate has never translated into the ability to be a reliable pitcher. Time to end the experiment. Right now he and Valdez are the 8th and 9th guys out of the pen. It would be nice to fill those spots with guys who are actually good, and right now it's unclear whether either one is. But they will pitch almost exclusively in low leverage.
Once Barnes comes off the C19 list, Brewer could take the last spot just because he can give you three crappy innings with the team down 5 runs, rather than just two. But they'll get a look at both of them in circumstances that count.
If they decide they need a good 13th pitcher, they have Houck. And should Brewer earn the DFA many of us have been lobbying for, there's Walden, who actually breezed through his last few appearances, and has an option left. Bazardo could get a shot as well.
When you include Brasier, Barnes, and Houck, they do have 15 guys who are legit, and Sale will make it 16. It's unreasonable to expect a team to have guys that are not iffy once you get to pitchers 17 and 18 on the depth chart.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Mar 27, 2021 15:34:10 GMT -5
I was just thinking the same thing. Bad timing as well they start the season with a pretty favorable schedule for April. Hopefully its not too many BP arms, there going to need alot of innings out of them this season. Matt Andreise for one. 7 inning game with Politi starting and still in. This could be very bad. Hopefully by Thursday it’s figured out. On the good side Barnes is asymtomatic so hopefully he is not held up to much Probably a defective test......NYY fan probably got some test kit, so Barnes would test positive.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 27, 2021 15:39:25 GMT -5
Is there any rational justification for Brewer to make the roster? His phenomenal spin rate has never translated into the ability to be a reliable pitcher. Time to end the experiment. I mean, he's the 8th or 9th guy in the bullpen and only making the team because of injuries. If Colten Brewer is who we have to be concerned about things are going pretty well. He's fungible depth with options. He's not the closer or something.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Mar 27, 2021 16:38:28 GMT -5
Is there any rational justification for Brewer to make the roster? His phenomenal spin rate has never translated into the ability to be a reliable pitcher. Time to end the experiment. I mean, he's the 8th or 9th guy in the bullpen and only making the team because of injuries. If Colten Brewer is who we have to be concerned about things are going pretty well. He's fungible depth with options. He's not the closer or something. ....that said, I would still rather have Walden, McCarthy, or Bazardo than Brewer even if it is the last spot in the bullpen.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Mar 27, 2021 16:50:25 GMT -5
I mean, he's the 8th or 9th guy in the bullpen and only making the team because of injuries. If Colten Brewer is who we have to be concerned about things are going pretty well. He's fungible depth with options. He's not the closer or something. ....that said, I would still rather have Walden, McCarthy, or Bazardo than Brewer even if it is the last spot in the bullpen. Walden was at one point the “last” man in the bullpen in 2019. He ended up throwing 78 innings with a 3.81 ERA, and he was one of Cora’s most trusted relievers midway through the year. If the Red Sox need to DFA Brewer to have any of the theee i listed above so be it.
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Post by blizzards39 on Mar 27, 2021 18:23:55 GMT -5
Is there any rational justification for Brewer to make the roster? His phenomenal spin rate has never translated into the ability to be a reliable pitcher. Time to end the experiment. Right now he and Valdez are the 8th and 9th guys out of the pen. It would be nice to fill those spots with guys who are actually good, and right now it's unclear whether either one is. But they will pitch almost exclusively in low leverage.
Once Barnes comes off the C19 list, Brewer could take the last spot just because he can give you three crappy innings with the team down 5 runs, rather than just two. But they'll get a look at both of them in circumstances that count.
If they decide they need a good 13th pitcher, they have Houck. And should Brewer earn the DFA many of us have been lobbying for, there's Walden, who actually breezed through his last few appearances, and has an option left. Bazardo could get a shot as well.
When you include Brasier, Barnes, and Houck, they do have 15 guys who are legit, and Sale will make it 16. It's unreasonable to expect a team to have guys that are not iffy once you get to pitchers 17 and 18 on the depth chart.
For the most part last year had 4. Evo perez Barnes and workman. And I would t call any of those guys tier 1 I also wouldn’t discount other pitchers emerging at some point. Most likely seabold or Ward
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 28, 2021 9:16:14 GMT -5
I was just thinking the same thing. Bad timing as well they start the season with a pretty favorable schedule for April. Hopefully its not too many BP arms, there going to need alot of innings out of them this season. Matt Andreise for one. 7 inning game with Politi starting and still in. This could be very bad. Hopefully by Thursday it’s figured out. On the good side Barnes is asymtomatic so hopefully he is not held up to much On the bad side, being asymptomatic does mean you're a carrier, and that no one close to you knows it. So far, there's just Andriese. So far.
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Post by incandenza on Mar 28, 2021 12:22:20 GMT -5
Interesting that case counts are close to what they were at the peak of last summer's wave, now being driven up by a new variant that is more contagious (and more lethal), and the baseball season is going right ahead anyway (now with thousands of fans in the stands!). Seems reasonable to expect there will be major disruptions for teams like there were last season with the Marlins, Cardinals, etc., at least until players are vaccinated. I would hope and expect that should happen by May at the latest.
Seems to me like a one month delay for the start of the major league season, like they're doing for the minors, would've made sense...
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Post by jdog2020 on Mar 28, 2021 12:23:09 GMT -5
BOMBS!! Give me more Franchy!
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Post by humanbeingbean on Mar 28, 2021 12:23:20 GMT -5
Nice top of the lineup!
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Post by kevfc89 on Mar 28, 2021 12:32:00 GMT -5
Kiké and Franchy go back to back to start the game.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Mar 28, 2021 12:51:38 GMT -5
Brewer born '92 Payamps born '94
in addition to the other arguments against Brewer, there's his aging
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 28, 2021 13:53:28 GMT -5
All posters are reminded to please fight the culture wars elsewhere.
Civil discussion re: matters regarding covid that relate to baseball are fine. Completely unjustified escalation into personal attacks and bringing in entirely unrelated matters that have nothing to do with what has been said are not. It's really not hard.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Mar 28, 2021 14:30:41 GMT -5
Brewer born '92 Payamps born '94 in addition to the other arguments against Brewer, there's his aging 1992. Aging. JFC man, I'm just trying to have a nice Sunday
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Post by johnsilver52 on Mar 28, 2021 15:18:26 GMT -5
wasn't important
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