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Post by chrisfromnc on Jun 28, 2021 15:41:48 GMT -5
I think it is worthwhile to sometimes get some perspective on what people have said previously. Giving this thread a bump. There are some interesting predictions. My quick review shows the most pessimistic win-prediction was a paltry 75 by Shagworthy (shame on you). My man Jlebowski was the most optimistic, predicting that your 2021 Red Sox will win 93 games! Eric Van's 94-win prediction was predicated on a JBJ resigning, so he only gets credit for his 92-win prediction.
Most of my predictions are not looking great (Aldo Ramirez' injury blows), but my 90-win total call is not looking too bad. How did you do?
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Jun 28, 2021 16:05:53 GMT -5
I totally forgot to put in my numbers. Let me check back in September for my "final ansah."
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Post by Jimmy on Jun 28, 2021 16:07:05 GMT -5
I think it is worthwhile to sometimes get some perspective on what people have said previously. Giving this thread a bump. There are some interesting predictions. My quick review shows the most pessimistic win-prediction was a paltry 75 by Shagworthy (shame on you). My man Jlebowski was the most optimistic, predicting that your 2021 Red Sox will win 93 games! Eric Van's 94-win prediction was predicated on a JBJ resigning, so he only gets credit for his 92-win prediction. Most of my predictions are not looking great (Aldo Ramirez' injury blows), but my 90-win total call is not looking too bad. How did you do? I don’t think I did terribly: Record: 84 - 78 Cy Young: Eovaldi MVP: Xander Breakout Player: Dalbec Reliever of Year: Otto CPOY: Franchy Playoff Finish: N/A Breakout Prospects: Groome / Wallace Prospect w. Most MLB Impact: Seabold Looks like I was a little low on the win prediction (knock on wood) but happy I wasn’t in the sub-80 win crowd. I think Eovaldi is squarely in contention for team Cy Young. Xander is probably team MVP with Devers right behind him. Otto is at least in the conversation for ReOY with Barnes & Whitlock (& Taylor??) Don’t really know who CPOY would be. Maybe I’m blanking but the two prime candidates of Franchy and Richards seem to be misses. I guess it’ll probably end up being Sale. Probably a whiff on them not making playoffs. Last two categories too soon to tell.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jun 28, 2021 16:23:12 GMT -5
I wish I had finished typing it up and posted it, not sure why I didn't.
Was going to say with Cora coming back and the big 3 the Sox could win 93+, oh well.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 28, 2021 16:54:51 GMT -5
I had them with 79 wins. By Labor Day, I should be about right - for a day Those 83 losses probably overshot the mark, though
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Post by unitspin on Jun 28, 2021 16:54:59 GMT -5
Record:80-82 CY Young:Eovaldi MVP:devers Breakout Player:dalbec Reliever of Year:ott CPOY:jd Playoff Finish:golfing Breakout Prospects:Bryan gonzalez Prospect w. Most MLB Impact:duran Win total is not looking so hot and them missing the playoffs. It's a long season though.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jun 28, 2021 17:08:53 GMT -5
Just took a look see at the 2nd half schedule... man I hope Sale is back sooner than later.
26 games vs the MFYs, Rays and Jays out of 29 games. The division could be decided by the middle of August.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 28, 2021 17:12:56 GMT -5
Just took a look see at the 2nd half schedule... man I hope Sale is back sooner than later. 26 games vs the MFYs, Rays and Jays out of 29 games. The division could be decided by the middle of August. Yeah, that's a gauntlet. I keep waiting for the Orioles games. They always give up by June. You'd think KC would be easy but they beat the Sox 2 of 3 and it's hard to take a 4 game series, even at home against a team like KC (especially when you get Duffy/Richards matchups, but then again Cole/E-Rod).
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Post by manfred on Jun 28, 2021 17:21:35 GMT -5
Record: 86-76 Cy Young: ERod? MVP: Xander Breakout: Duran Reliever: Ottavino Comeback: JDM Breakout prospect: I’ll go Yorke out of optimism Most impact: Duran Playoff finish: by July. I’m not ashamed. I was right about a bunch of the off season moves, for better or worse. I was waaay off on Renfroe. But mostly I think I underestimated how good the returning core of Devers, X, and JDM really could be, and the upside on Eovaldi and Pivetta.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 28, 2021 17:50:25 GMT -5
Record: 79-83 Cy Young: Rodriguez MVP: Devers Breakout Player: Cordero Reliever of the year: Sawamura Comeback player is the year: JD Martinez Playoff finish: N/A Breakout Prospects: Jimenez, Groome Prospect w Most MLB Impact: Duran Well let's see: I'm right about JDM, but then again who didn't have that one? I'd like to be right about Duran having the most ML impact. Not giving up on that one yet, although right now he's about 10 miles behind Garrett Whitlock and even if Duran is huge in the 2nd half he still might not exceed Whitlock. Does Cordero being a breakout star in AAA qualify me as being correct? HAHA! Sawamura has been decent and still has room to improve, but he's not the reliever of the year. Cy Young: E-Rod? Guys with an ERA of 6 don't usually qualify for that. Breakout prospects: The only guy that comes quickly to mind in Brayan Bello. Did anybody have THAT one?! Devers? Well, flip a coin with him and X, but that wasn't exactly tough to guess at. I have them scheduled to play 162, so I believe I got that one right!!
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Post by ramireja on Sept 22, 2021 11:52:31 GMT -5
BUMP
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 22, 2021 12:05:10 GMT -5
Record: 79-83 Cy Young: Rodriguez MVP: Devers Breakout Player: Cordero Reliever of the year: Sawamura Comeback player is the year: JD Martinez Playoff finish: N/A Breakout Prospects: Jimenez, Groome Prospect w Most MLB Impact: Duran Well let's see: I'm right about JDM, but then again who didn't have that one? I'd like to be right about Duran having the most ML impact. Not giving up on that one yet, although right now he's about 10 miles behind Garrett Whitlock and even if Duran is huge in the 2nd half he still might not exceed Whitlock. Does Cordero being a breakout star in AAA qualify me as being correct? HAHA! Sawamura has been decent and still has room to improve, but he's not the reliever of the year. Cy Young: E-Rod? Guys with an ERA of 6 don't usually qualify for that. Breakout prospects: The only guy that comes quickly to mind in Brayan Bello. Did anybody have THAT one?! Devers? Well, flip a coin with him and X, but that wasn't exactly tough to guess at. I have them scheduled to play 162, so I believe I got that one right!! It's a good thing you don't gamble!!!
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 24, 2021 4:11:23 GMT -5
I think it is worthwhile to sometimes get some perspective on what people have said previously. Giving this thread a bump. There are some interesting predictions. My quick review shows the most pessimistic win-prediction was a paltry 75 by Shagworthy (shame on you). My man Jlebowski was the most optimistic, predicting that your 2021 Red Sox will win 93 games! Eric Van's 94-win prediction was predicated on a JBJ resigning, so he only gets credit for his 92-win prediction. Most of my predictions are not looking great (Aldo Ramirez' injury blows), but my 90-win total call is not looking too bad. How did you do? I agree with that.
And while it's true that my initial urge was to say 95 wins no matter what, and that I then toned it down because I'm always too optimistic, and that I'm now kicking myself for doing so, I think it's bogus to say that I actually had it right in my own mind. I would have predicted maybe 0.3 WAR of deadline acquisitions, because they are a fools game in the long run, and Bloom knows that, and he's all about the long run. Right now they are are at 2.0 WAR of deadline and post-deadeline acquisitions, all acquired on the cheap, and that's what I'm off by. I underestimated Bloom, which I didn't think possible as late as sometimes in August.
I did, however, predict a WS victory! I fee a little pressure to answer in character .... Record: 94 - 68 if they sign JBJ, 92 - 70 if not. CY Young: Richards, Eovaldi, tie * MVP: Devers Breakout Player: Franchy Reliever of Year: Sawamura CPOY: Richards Playoff Finish: 1st WC; q.v. 2013 Breakout Prospects: Jimenez, Aldo Ramirez ** Prospect w. Most MLB Impact: Whitlock (nothing special) if JBJ, Duran if not
* a/k/a "cheating"
** We have a Gonzales, a Perez, and two Hernandez's. We are sorely lacking a Ramirez!
Now, obviously I did not think that winning the WS was the likeliest outcome. But I genuinely thought (and still think) that it was so very much on the table that I ought to predict it to drive home the point.Anyone who predicts their team to win the WS is really just saying "this is a very real possibility."
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Post by nuttyredsox on Sept 24, 2021 4:34:41 GMT -5
I didn't made any predictions but I like the way they build this team. I do remember when a very large group of so call fans trash the built of this team and I even post to tell them to get a life. I'm not looking for vindication, I'm just reminding many of you that sometime it takes a little more faith for what CHAIM BLOOM is trying to do. Year after here we see the small payroll teams taking the world series home and not the ones they spend the most.
LET'S GO RED SOX and shock the world.
JUST WIN IT ALL BABY !!!
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Post by manfred on Sept 24, 2021 13:46:03 GMT -5
Record: 79-83 Cy Young: Rodriguez MVP: Devers Breakout Player: Cordero Reliever of the year: Sawamura Comeback player is the year: JD Martinez Playoff finish: N/A Breakout Prospects: Jimenez, Groome Prospect w Most MLB Impact: Duran Well let's see: I'm right about JDM, but then again who didn't have that one? I'd like to be right about Duran having the most ML impact. Not giving up on that one yet, although right now he's about 10 miles behind Garrett Whitlock and even if Duran is huge in the 2nd half he still might not exceed Whitlock. Does Cordero being a breakout star in AAA qualify me as being correct? HAHA! Sawamura has been decent and still has room to improve, but he's not the reliever of the year. Cy Young: E-Rod? Guys with an ERA of 6 don't usually qualify for that. Breakout prospects: The only guy that comes quickly to mind in Brayan Bello. Did anybody have THAT one?! Devers? Well, flip a coin with him and X, but that wasn't exactly tough to guess at. I have them scheduled to play 162, so I believe I got that one right!! Breakout prospect is obviously Yorke… which I had (based in part on the fact that he had a lot of room to grow).
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 24, 2021 14:12:48 GMT -5
Well let's see: I'm right about JDM, but then again who didn't have that one? I'd like to be right about Duran having the most ML impact. Not giving up on that one yet, although right now he's about 10 miles behind Garrett Whitlock and even if Duran is huge in the 2nd half he still might not exceed Whitlock. Does Cordero being a breakout star in AAA qualify me as being correct? HAHA! Sawamura has been decent and still has room to improve, but he's not the reliever of the year. Cy Young: E-Rod? Guys with an ERA of 6 don't usually qualify for that. Breakout prospects: The only guy that comes quickly to mind in Brayan Bello. Did anybody have THAT one?! Devers? Well, flip a coin with him and X, but that wasn't exactly tough to guess at. I have them scheduled to play 162, so I believe I got that one right!! Breakout prospect is obviously Yorke… which I had (based in part on the fact that he had a lot of room to grow). It is as of now, but when I first looked at my original predictions in June, Yorke hadn't asserted himself quite yet. Now the answer is most definitely Yorke.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Oct 5, 2021 11:28:37 GMT -5
Record: 90-72 (part hope and part legitimate optimism) CY Young: Eovaldi (also part hope) MVP: Verdugo (I still miss Betts like my right arm is gone, so I want AV to be brilliant) Breakout Player: Tanner Houck Reliever of Year: Ottavino CPOY: Chris Sale Playoff Finish: Loss in the Wildcard Breakout Prospects: Aldo Ramirez, Jay Groome, Blaze Jordan, Prospect w. Most MLB Impact: Houck Now that the season is over, I’m again bumping this thread. If you want to play, quote yourself and show us how you did. I was pretty close on wins and was ok in being high on Houck and Eovaldi. Duggie didn’t have the MVP season I predicted. I’m hoping tonight proves me wrong on the playoff prediction. 😀
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Post by stevedillard on Oct 5, 2021 11:47:22 GMT -5
Reading all this, the only take away is we’re playing with house money.
That’s why I’m totally calm. This was really year one of a rebuild
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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 5, 2021 13:12:41 GMT -5
Since I hadn't started posting again at prediction time, all I can do is post where my expectations did/didn't match up.
Better than I expected - Eovaldi, Whitlock (of course - barely on my radar screen), Barnes (first half), Kiké, Hunter - Sale's return a pleasant surprise, as well as Brasier - and Cora's return.
About what I expected - Pivetta, Richards, Perez, Taylor, Dalbec, Devers, Verdugo, Plawecki, Ottavino
Disappointments - ERod (somewhat), Barnes (second half), Houck (only in that he had injury issues and didn't pitch as much as I hoped), Hernandez (control issues), Xander (stats look good but I expected more), JD (ditto)
I didn't see a playoff team, but thought 85-87 wins and more of a bridge year. So - I am delighted despite the disappointments noted above.
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