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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Mar 25, 2021 8:25:15 GMT -5
I posted an article on my site, but was curious to hear some responses from the more seasoned posters of Sox Prospects. Let me know what you guys think (original article with my notes on some of the projections posted here: scotchcigarsandsox.com/2021/03/24/wild-speculations-projecting-the-2021-red-sox/) HittersPlayer | AB | R | HR | RBI | SB | BB | K | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
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Rafael Devers | 605 | 111 | 31 | 99 | 5 | 50 | 132 | 0.288 | 0.336 | 0.532 | 0.868 | Alex Verdugo | 575 | 92 | 19 | 72 | 9 | 49 | 99 | 0.305 | 0.361 | 0.464 | 0.825 | JD Martinez | 565 | 88 | 29 | 95 | 2 | 65 | 145 | 0.278 | 0.352 | 0.505 | 0.857 | Xander Bogaerts | 560 | 92 | 27 | 102 | 15 | 59 | 112 | 0.296 | 0.364 | 0.522 | 0.886 | Bobby Dalbec | 468 | 65 | 33 | 70 | 3 | 55 | 184 | 0.231 | 0.321 | 0.462 | 0.783 | Kiké Hernandez | 435 | 70 | 18 | 68 | 5 | 44 | 106 | 0.268 | 0.331 | 0.445 | 0.776 | Christian Vazquez | 425 | 56 | 12 | 56 | 3 | 28 | 88 | 0.272 | 0.315 | 0.413 | 0.728 | Hunter Renfroe | 422 | 62 | 28 | 71 | 3 | 37 | 128 | 0.228 | 0.295 | 0.491 | 0.786 | Marwin Gonzalez | 402 | 49 | 14 | 55 | 2 | 39 | 86 | 0.262 | 0.322 | 0.409 | 0.731 | Franchy Cordero | 321 | 48 | 16 | 48 | 7 | 30 | 104 | 0.245 | 0.308 | 0.446 | 0.754 | Christian Arroyo | 308 | 42 | 11 | 45 | 2 | 22 | 72 | 0.253 | 0.315 | 0.426 | 0.741 | Danny Santana | 275 | 33 | 11 | 39 | 10 | 19 | 89 | 0.252 | 0.305 | 0.462 | 0.767 | Michael Chavis | 245 | 28 | 10 | 32 | 3 | 16 | 62 | 0.235 | 0.297 | 0.418 | 0.715 | Kevin Plawecki | 212 | 22 | 4 | 24 | 1 | 17 | 38 | 0.258 | 0.322 | 0.381 | 0.703 | Jarren Duran | 200 | 28 | 3 | 18 | 11 | 13 | 47 | 0.272 | 0.321 | 0.388 | 0.709 |
Starters/Swing MenPlayer | GS | IP | W | L | K | BB | ERA | WHIP |
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Martin Perez | 32 | 169 | 11 | 11 | 128 | 62 | 4.72 | 1.41 | Eduardo Rodriguez | 28 | 144 | 12 | 7 | 157 | 49 | 3.94 | 1.32 | Nick Pivetta | 25 | 133 | 10 | 9 | 139 | 48 | 4.43 | 1.39 | Nathan Eovaldi | 22 | 129 | 9 | 4 | 131 | 35 | 4.05 | 1.27 | Garrett Richards | 18 | 111 | 7 | 6 | 106 | 44 | 3.99 | 1.24 | Chris Sale | 12 | 77 | 6 | 3 | 105 | 19 | 2.99 | 1.08 | Tanner Houck | 11 | 76 | 5 | 3 | 71 | 34 | 3.24 | 1.21 | Garrett Whitlock | 7 | 85 | 4 | 4 | 67 | 35 | 4.54 | 1.42 | Matt Andriese | 5 | 79 | 5 | 3 | 77 | 28 | 4.62 | 1.38 | Connor Seabold | 2 | 22 | 1 | 1 | 22 | 8 | 4.65 | 1.39 |
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Adam Ottavino | 67 | 7 | 78 | 31 | 2.75 | 1.04 | Matt Barnes | 64 | 22 | 81 | 29 | 3.61 | 1.32 | D. Hernandez | 59 | 3 | 68 | 32 | 2.84 | 1.44 | Josh Taylor | 49 | 0 | 52 | 27 | 4.02 | 1.33 | Hirokazu Sawamura | 44 | 2 | 46 | 18 | 4.24 | 1.42 | Austin Brice | 44 | 0 | 43 | 19 | 4.44 | 1.38 | Ryan Brasier | 42 | 0 | 46 | 16 | 3.98 | 1.29 | Phillip Valdez | 32 | 0 | 29 | 16 | 4.14 | 1.38 | John Schreiber | 18 | 0 | 17 | 8 | 4.45 | 1.37 | Colton Brewer | 16 | 0 | 15 | 8 | 4.33 | 1.52 | Eduardo Bazardo | 12 | 0 | 14 | 3 | 3.05 | 1.22 |
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Post by mobaz on Mar 25, 2021 9:03:42 GMT -5
Thanks for taking a crack at this.
A few things stand out to me seeing everyone like that: It's stark how little pressure this team will put on opponents on the basepaths. Not only steals, but who's going to stretch a single into a double or pressure the right fielder to make a throw at home.
This brings home the fact that the starters are much deeper than last year but high-end quality is short unless Eovaldi and Richards pitch at their ceilings or Whitlock/Pivetta/Houck overachieve as #3-level performers. That's a lot of wishin' and hopin'.
I hope that's how Devers and Xander settle in, but I worry they'll both take a small step back, which will become a problem.
An effective D Hernandez will do wonders for the bullpen. Hoping he reaches his potential and is a closer by this time next year.
Overall, I still like this team, and am looking forward to seeing if Verdugo can level up, if Devers/Xander can cement themselves as powerhouse hitters, and hoping spaghetti sticks in the rotation. The depth is really nice to see all around, for what will feel like a really long season.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Mar 25, 2021 9:11:21 GMT -5
It's stark how little pressure this team will put on opponents on the basepaths. Not only steals, but who's going to stretch a single into a double or pressure the right fielder to make a throw at home. There aren't necessarily any real burners, but Bogaerts, Verdugo, Cordero, Kiké, and Renfroe all have faster than average sprint speeds according to baseball savant. If Duran joins that mix, you're looking at a more than respectable team on the basepaths.
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Post by jimoh on Mar 25, 2021 10:03:22 GMT -5
I posted an article on my site, but was curious to hear some responses from the more seasoned posters of Sox Prospects. Let me know what you guys think (original article with my notes on some of the projections posted here: scotchcigarsandsox.com/2021/03/24/wild-speculations-projecting-the-2021-red-sox/) HittersPlayer | AB | R | HR | RBI | SB | BB | K | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
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Rafael Devers | 605 | 111 | 31 | 99 | 5 | 50 | 132 | 0.288 | 0.336 | 0.532 | 0.868 | Alex Verdugo | 575 | 92 | 19 | 72 | 9 | 49 | 99 | 0.305 | 0.361 | 0.464 | 0.825 | JD Martinez | 565 | 88 | 29 | 95 | 2 | 65 | 145 | 0.278 | 0.352 | 0.505 | 0.857 | Xander Bogaerts | 560 | 92 | 27 | 102 | 15 | 59 | 112 | 0.296 | 0.364 | 0.522 | 0.886 | Bobby Dalbec | 468 | 65 | 33 | 70 | 3 | 55 | 184 | 0.231 | 0.321 | 0.462 | 0.783 | Kiké Hernandez | 435 | 70 | 18 | 68 | 5 | 44 | 106 | 0.268 | 0.331 | 0.445 | 0.776 | Christian Vazquez | 425 | 56 | 12 | 56 | 3 | 28 | 88 | 0.272 | 0.315 | 0.413 | 0.728 | Hunter Renfroe | 422 | 62 | 28 | 71 | 3 | 37 | 128 | 0.228 | 0.295 | 0.491 | 0.786 | Marwin Gonzalez | 402 | 49 | 14 | 55 | 2 | 39 | 86 | 0.262 | 0.322 | 0.409 | 0.731 | Franchy Cordero | 321 | 48 | 16 | 48 | 7 | 30 | 104 | 0.245 | 0.308 | 0.446 | 0.754 | Christian Arroyo | 308 | 42 | 11 | 45 | 2 | 22 | 72 | 0.253 | 0.315 | 0.426 | 0.741 | Danny Santana | 275 | 33 | 11 | 39 | 10 | 19 | 89 | 0.252 | 0.305 | 0.462 | 0.767 | Michael Chavis | 245 | 28 | 10 | 32 | 3 | 16 | 62 | 0.235 | 0.297 | 0.418 | 0.715 | Kevin Plawecki | 212 | 22 | 4 | 24 | 1 | 17 | 38 | 0.258 | 0.322 | 0.381 | 0.703 | Jarren Duran | 200 | 28 | 3 | 18 | 11 | 13 | 47 | 0.272 | 0.321 | 0.388 | 0.709 |
[...] Interesting and impressive. Four years ago that 266 HRs would have been a new record for a team in one season, though it would only be 6th now. Could you be underestimating the extent to which Fenway helps singles and doubles and walks and reduces HRs, especially for the newcomers?
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Mar 25, 2021 11:00:05 GMT -5
I think that the graphic that RedSoxStats showed in one of the other threads showing Kiké Hernández’s hits overlayed on Fenway showing an uptick in HR’s (or at least wall banging singles/doubles) also played a part. Plus Renfroe likes to go oppo a lot, and Dalbec has been showing opposite field power as well. I think with this specific team, there’s a slight lean towards right field power which is a benefit of Fenway
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Post by jimoh on Mar 25, 2021 11:20:35 GMT -5
I think that the graphic that RedSoxStats showed in one of the other threads showing Kiké Hernández’s hits overlayed on Fenway showing an uptick in HR’s (or at least wall banging singles/doubles) also played a part. Plus Renfroe likes to go oppo a lot, and Dalbec has been showing opposite field power as well. I think with this specific team, there’s a slight lean towards right field power which is a benefit of Fenway That's all good, except at Fenway you can hit it 400 feet to RCF and get bupkis. Might not be as much of a problem for Dalbec and Renfroe as for people like Benintendi and Mike Greenwell, but it's pretty far!
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Mar 27, 2021 21:50:00 GMT -5
I posted an article on my site, but was curious to hear some responses from the more seasoned posters of Sox Prospects. Let me know what you guys think (original article with my notes on some of the projections posted here: scotchcigarsandsox.com/2021/03/24/wild-speculations-projecting-the-2021-red-sox/) HittersPlayer | AB | R | HR | RBI | SB | BB | K | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
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Rafael Devers | 605 | 111 | 31 | 99 | 5 | 50 | 132 | 0.288 | 0.336 | 0.532 | 0.868 | Alex Verdugo | 575 | 92 | 19 | 72 | 9 | 49 | 99 | 0.305 | 0.361 | 0.464 | 0.825 | JD Martinez | 565 | 88 | 29 | 95 | 2 | 65 | 145 | 0.278 | 0.352 | 0.505 | 0.857 | Xander Bogaerts | 560 | 92 | 27 | 102 | 15 | 59 | 112 | 0.296 | 0.364 | 0.522 | 0.886 | Bobby Dalbec | 468 | 65 | 33 | 70 | 3 | 55 | 184 | 0.231 | 0.321 | 0.462 | 0.783 | Kiké Hernandez | 435 | 70 | 18 | 68 | 5 | 44 | 106 | 0.268 | 0.331 | 0.445 | 0.776 | Christian Vazquez | 425 | 56 | 12 | 56 | 3 | 28 | 88 | 0.272 | 0.315 | 0.413 | 0.728 | Hunter Renfroe | 422 | 62 | 28 | 71 | 3 | 37 | 128 | 0.228 | 0.295 | 0.491 | 0.786 | Marwin Gonzalez | 402 | 49 | 14 | 55 | 2 | 39 | 86 | 0.262 | 0.322 | 0.409 | 0.731 | Franchy Cordero | 321 | 48 | 16 | 48 | 7 | 30 | 104 | 0.245 | 0.308 | 0.446 | 0.754 | Christian Arroyo | 308 | 42 | 11 | 45 | 2 | 22 | 72 | 0.253 | 0.315 | 0.426 | 0.741 | Danny Santana | 275 | 33 | 11 | 39 | 10 | 19 | 89 | 0.252 | 0.305 | 0.462 | 0.767 | Michael Chavis | 245 | 28 | 10 | 32 | 3 | 16 | 62 | 0.235 | 0.297 | 0.418 | 0.715 | Kevin Plawecki | 212 | 22 | 4 | 24 | 1 | 17 | 38 | 0.258 | 0.322 | 0.381 | 0.703 | Jarren Duran | 200 | 28 | 3 | 18 | 11 | 13 | 47 | 0.272 | 0.321 | 0.388 | 0.709 |
Starters/Swing MenPlayer | GS | IP | W | L | K | BB | ERA | WHIP |
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Martin Perez | 32 | 169 | 11 | 11 | 128 | 62 | 4.72 | 1.41 | Eduardo Rodriguez | 28 | 144 | 12 | 7 | 157 | 49 | 3.94 | 1.32 | Nick Pivetta | 25 | 133 | 10 | 9 | 139 | 48 | 4.43 | 1.39 | Nathan Eovaldi | 22 | 129 | 9 | 4 | 131 | 35 | 4.05 | 1.27 | Garrett Richards | 18 | 111 | 7 | 6 | 106 | 44 | 3.99 | 1.24 | Chris Sale | 12 | 77 | 6 | 3 | 105 | 19 | 2.99 | 1.08 | Tanner Houck | 11 | 76 | 5 | 3 | 71 | 34 | 3.24 | 1.21 | Garrett Whitlock | 7 | 85 | 4 | 4 | 67 | 35 | 4.54 | 1.42 | Matt Andriese | 5 | 79 | 5 | 3 | 77 | 28 | 4.62 | 1.38 | Connor Seabold | 2 | 22 | 1 | 1 | 22 | 8 | 4.65 | 1.39 |
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Adam Ottavino | 67 | 7 | 78 | 31 | 2.75 | 1.04 | Matt Barnes | 64 | 22 | 81 | 29 | 3.61 | 1.32 | D. Hernandez | 59 | 3 | 68 | 32 | 2.84 | 1.44 | Josh Taylor | 49 | 0 | 52 | 27 | 4.02 | 1.33 | Hirokazu Sawamura | 44 | 2 | 46 | 18 | 4.24 | 1.42 | Austin Brice | 44 | 0 | 43 | 19 | 4.44 | 1.38 | Ryan Brasier | 42 | 0 | 46 | 16 | 3.98 | 1.29 | Phillip Valdez | 32 | 0 | 29 | 16 | 4.14 | 1.38 | John Schreiber | 18 | 0 | 17 | 8 | 4.45 | 1.37 | Colton Brewer | 16 | 0 | 15 | 8 | 4.33 | 1.52 | Eduardo Bazardo | 12 | 0 | 14 | 3 | 3.05 | 1.22 |
Your starters will be 70-51 with every ERA under 5.00. I hope this indeed happens!
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Mar 27, 2021 21:52:02 GMT -5
I posted an article on my site, but was curious to hear some responses from the more seasoned posters of Sox Prospects. Let me know what you guys think (original article with my notes on some of the projections posted here: scotchcigarsandsox.com/2021/03/24/wild-speculations-projecting-the-2021-red-sox/) HittersPlayer | AB | R | HR | RBI | SB | BB | K | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
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Rafael Devers | 605 | 111 | 31 | 99 | 5 | 50 | 132 | 0.288 | 0.336 | 0.532 | 0.868 | Alex Verdugo | 575 | 92 | 19 | 72 | 9 | 49 | 99 | 0.305 | 0.361 | 0.464 | 0.825 | JD Martinez | 565 | 88 | 29 | 95 | 2 | 65 | 145 | 0.278 | 0.352 | 0.505 | 0.857 | Xander Bogaerts | 560 | 92 | 27 | 102 | 15 | 59 | 112 | 0.296 | 0.364 | 0.522 | 0.886 | Bobby Dalbec | 468 | 65 | 33 | 70 | 3 | 55 | 184 | 0.231 | 0.321 | 0.462 | 0.783 | Kiké Hernandez | 435 | 70 | 18 | 68 | 5 | 44 | 106 | 0.268 | 0.331 | 0.445 | 0.776 | Christian Vazquez | 425 | 56 | 12 | 56 | 3 | 28 | 88 | 0.272 | 0.315 | 0.413 | 0.728 | Hunter Renfroe | 422 | 62 | 28 | 71 | 3 | 37 | 128 | 0.228 | 0.295 | 0.491 | 0.786 | Marwin Gonzalez | 402 | 49 | 14 | 55 | 2 | 39 | 86 | 0.262 | 0.322 | 0.409 | 0.731 | Franchy Cordero | 321 | 48 | 16 | 48 | 7 | 30 | 104 | 0.245 | 0.308 | 0.446 | 0.754 | Christian Arroyo | 308 | 42 | 11 | 45 | 2 | 22 | 72 | 0.253 | 0.315 | 0.426 | 0.741 | Danny Santana | 275 | 33 | 11 | 39 | 10 | 19 | 89 | 0.252 | 0.305 | 0.462 | 0.767 | Michael Chavis | 245 | 28 | 10 | 32 | 3 | 16 | 62 | 0.235 | 0.297 | 0.418 | 0.715 | Kevin Plawecki | 212 | 22 | 4 | 24 | 1 | 17 | 38 | 0.258 | 0.322 | 0.381 | 0.703 | Jarren Duran | 200 | 28 | 3 | 18 | 11 | 13 | 47 | 0.272 | 0.321 | 0.388 | 0.709 |
Starters/Swing MenPlayer | GS | IP | W | L | K | BB | ERA | WHIP |
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Martin Perez | 32 | 169 | 11 | 11 | 128 | 62 | 4.72 | 1.41 | Eduardo Rodriguez | 28 | 144 | 12 | 7 | 157 | 49 | 3.94 | 1.32 | Nick Pivetta | 25 | 133 | 10 | 9 | 139 | 48 | 4.43 | 1.39 | Nathan Eovaldi | 22 | 129 | 9 | 4 | 131 | 35 | 4.05 | 1.27 | Garrett Richards | 18 | 111 | 7 | 6 | 106 | 44 | 3.99 | 1.24 | Chris Sale | 12 | 77 | 6 | 3 | 105 | 19 | 2.99 | 1.08 | Tanner Houck | 11 | 76 | 5 | 3 | 71 | 34 | 3.24 | 1.21 | Garrett Whitlock | 7 | 85 | 4 | 4 | 67 | 35 | 4.54 | 1.42 | Matt Andriese | 5 | 79 | 5 | 3 | 77 | 28 | 4.62 | 1.38 | Connor Seabold | 2 | 22 | 1 | 1 | 22 | 8 | 4.65 | 1.39 |
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Adam Ottavino | 67 | 7 | 78 | 31 | 2.75 | 1.04 | Matt Barnes | 64 | 22 | 81 | 29 | 3.61 | 1.32 | D. Hernandez | 59 | 3 | 68 | 32 | 2.84 | 1.44 | Josh Taylor | 49 | 0 | 52 | 27 | 4.02 | 1.33 | Hirokazu Sawamura | 44 | 2 | 46 | 18 | 4.24 | 1.42 | Austin Brice | 44 | 0 | 43 | 19 | 4.44 | 1.38 | Ryan Brasier | 42 | 0 | 46 | 16 | 3.98 | 1.29 | Phillip Valdez | 32 | 0 | 29 | 16 | 4.14 | 1.38 | John Schreiber | 18 | 0 | 17 | 8 | 4.45 | 1.37 | Colton Brewer | 16 | 0 | 15 | 8 | 4.33 | 1.52 | Eduardo Bazardo | 12 | 0 | 14 | 3 | 3.05 | 1.22 |
Your starters will be 70-51 with every ERA under 5.00. I hope this indeed happens! 266 HRs would be a dream come true. I hope you are correct on your predictions!
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Post by blizzards39 on Mar 29, 2021 0:34:25 GMT -5
Your starters will be 70-51 with every ERA under 5.00. I hope this indeed happens! 266 HRs would be a dream come true. I hope you are correct on your predictions! More important than the HRs is the 90-95 wins this would result in. GOOOO SOXXXX
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 1, 2021 15:52:14 GMT -5
266 HRs would be a dream come true. I hope you are correct on your predictions! More important than the HRs is the 90-95 wins this would result in. GOOOO SOXXXX The odds of every starter under 5.00 ERA, and that the Red Sox hit 266 or more HRs is probably about the same as winning the lottery
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Post by agastonguay13 on Apr 2, 2021 7:00:35 GMT -5
I posted an article on my site, but was curious to hear some responses from the more seasoned posters of Sox Prospects. Let me know what you guys think (original article with my notes on some of the projections posted here: scotchcigarsandsox.com/2021/03/24/wild-speculations-projecting-the-2021-red-sox/) HittersPlayer | AB | R | HR | RBI | SB | BB | K | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
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Rafael Devers | 605 | 111 | 31 | 99 | 5 | 50 | 132 | 0.288 | 0.336 | 0.532 | 0.868 | Alex Verdugo | 575 | 92 | 19 | 72 | 9 | 49 | 99 | 0.305 | 0.361 | 0.464 | 0.825 | JD Martinez | 565 | 88 | 29 | 95 | 2 | 65 | 145 | 0.278 | 0.352 | 0.505 | 0.857 | Xander Bogaerts | 560 | 92 | 27 | 102 | 15 | 59 | 112 | 0.296 | 0.364 | 0.522 | 0.886 | Bobby Dalbec | 468 | 65 | 33 | 70 | 3 | 55 | 184 | 0.231 | 0.321 | 0.462 | 0.783 | Kiké Hernandez | 435 | 70 | 18 | 68 | 5 | 44 | 106 | 0.268 | 0.331 | 0.445 | 0.776 | Christian Vazquez | 425 | 56 | 12 | 56 | 3 | 28 | 88 | 0.272 | 0.315 | 0.413 | 0.728 | Hunter Renfroe | 422 | 62 | 28 | 71 | 3 | 37 | 128 | 0.228 | 0.295 | 0.491 | 0.786 | Marwin Gonzalez | 402 | 49 | 14 | 55 | 2 | 39 | 86 | 0.262 | 0.322 | 0.409 | 0.731 | Franchy Cordero | 321 | 48 | 16 | 48 | 7 | 30 | 104 | 0.245 | 0.308 | 0.446 | 0.754 | Christian Arroyo | 308 | 42 | 11 | 45 | 2 | 22 | 72 | 0.253 | 0.315 | 0.426 | 0.741 | Danny Santana | 275 | 33 | 11 | 39 | 10 | 19 | 89 | 0.252 | 0.305 | 0.462 | 0.767 | Michael Chavis | 245 | 28 | 10 | 32 | 3 | 16 | 62 | 0.235 | 0.297 | 0.418 | 0.715 | Kevin Plawecki | 212 | 22 | 4 | 24 | 1 | 17 | 38 | 0.258 | 0.322 | 0.381 | 0.703 | Jarren Duran | 200 | 28 | 3 | 18 | 11 | 13 | 47 | 0.272 | 0.321 | 0.388 | 0.709 |
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Martin Perez | 32 | 169 | 11 | 11 | 128 | 62 | 4.72 | 1.41 | Eduardo Rodriguez | 28 | 144 | 12 | 7 | 157 | 49 | 3.94 | 1.32 | Nick Pivetta | 25 | 133 | 10 | 9 | 139 | 48 | 4.43 | 1.39 | Nathan Eovaldi | 22 | 129 | 9 | 4 | 131 | 35 | 4.05 | 1.27 | Garrett Richards | 18 | 111 | 7 | 6 | 106 | 44 | 3.99 | 1.24 | Chris Sale | 12 | 77 | 6 | 3 | 105 | 19 | 2.99 | 1.08 | Tanner Houck | 11 | 76 | 5 | 3 | 71 | 34 | 3.24 | 1.21 | Garrett Whitlock | 7 | 85 | 4 | 4 | 67 | 35 | 4.54 | 1.42 | Matt Andriese | 5 | 79 | 5 | 3 | 77 | 28 | 4.62 | 1.38 | Connor Seabold | 2 | 22 | 1 | 1 | 22 | 8 | 4.65 | 1.39 |
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Adam Ottavino | 67 | 7 | 78 | 31 | 2.75 | 1.04 | Matt Barnes | 64 | 22 | 81 | 29 | 3.61 | 1.32 | D. Hernandez | 59 | 3 | 68 | 32 | 2.84 | 1.44 | Josh Taylor | 49 | 0 | 52 | 27 | 4.02 | 1.33 | Hirokazu Sawamura | 44 | 2 | 46 | 18 | 4.24 | 1.42 | Austin Brice | 44 | 0 | 43 | 19 | 4.44 | 1.38 | Ryan Brasier | 42 | 0 | 46 | 16 | 3.98 | 1.29 | Phillip Valdez | 32 | 0 | 29 | 16 | 4.14 | 1.38 | John Schreiber | 18 | 0 | 17 | 8 | 4.45 | 1.37 | Colton Brewer | 16 | 0 | 15 | 8 | 4.33 | 1.52 | Eduardo Bazardo | 12 | 0 | 14 | 3 | 3.05 | 1.22 |
I in no way am trying to knock your hustle. I truly love seeing optimistic projections like this, and I am by far an expert. But there are a few things that stick out to me. Pitching-wise: I don't see Perez and Rodriguez getting 32 and 28 starts, respectively. Everybody is coming off of a truncated season, so even if he's effective every time out, I don't think you can expect Perez to pitch every 5th day and not miss a turn. Rodriguez is already showing signs of not having pitched for a year+ with his dead arm. They're definitely going to skip him more than a few times and I wouldn't be surprised to see 2 or 3 quick IL stints for him with dead arm again. In the bullpen, I don't see Barnes as the closer. He'll probably be given first crack at it, but I'm just not a believer in him in that role. I think Ottavino takes it over and does a serviceable job. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Darwinzon Hernandez pitch himself into the closer's role by the end of the season, should the need arise. He's certainly got the stuff for it. In the batting order: First thing I noticed was Devers getting 600 ABs. I don't know why I have the impression of him as a guy who hits the IL for his fair share of games, but I do, so I think that number seems high. Bogaerts on the other hand, I have the opposite impression of. He always stick in my mind as a 162 game type, so I feel his cumulative numbers will increase. I feel like Kiké gets more ABs as well, playing the vast majority of games at 2nd base, but getting ABs at other positions, too, especially with the lack of outfield depth and Franchy's injury history. I hope JD Martinez puts this season together, simply to improve his trade value to try and get some decent prospects back for him at the All star break. Hopefully the Red Sox are in the mix for the playoffs, but if not, Martinez is the first guy I'm looking to move on from. Like I said, I'm absolutely no expert, so don't take my disagreement as me knocking your efforts at all. I like seeing this kind of effort!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 2, 2021 7:05:15 GMT -5
Fwiw, Devers PA by year since he got to full-season ball:
2015 - 508 (4th in the system even with Chavis timeshare) 2016 - 546 (2nd in the system) 2017 - 598 2018 - 516 2019 - 702 2020 - 670 PA pace
So he's generally stayed healthy save for 2018.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Apr 2, 2021 9:03:22 GMT -5
I will put a big asterisk in that I probably did not put enough stock into how teams are going to handle starters innings coming off the shortened 2020 season. Mostly due to the fact I don't think anyone really knows yet. Will they shorten starts to 4-5 innings and shuffle the bullpen more often? Add a 6th starter? Skip every 2nd or 3rd start through the rotation and use a guy like Whitlock/Andriese? They all seem to be on the table. I do think Perez though likely leads the team in innings and games started, but that's based more on the fact that the other 4 have much bigger health questions than anything else.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 2, 2021 9:10:39 GMT -5
More important than the HRs is the 90-95 wins this would result in. GOOOO SOXXXX The odds of every starter under 5.00 ERA, and that the Red Sox hit 266 or more HRs is probably about the same as winning the lottery Twice...
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Apr 2, 2021 9:34:05 GMT -5
I mean, 266 HR's would have been 5th in the league in 2019, and the Sox are very deep in Power first guys (Dalbec, Cordero, Renfroe) and overall good hitters with power (JD, Devers, Bogaerts) so I don't think it's out of the question. As for the 5.00 ERA, it's just predicting the individuals likely outcome. Chances are someone is going to have a bad season, but why predict one guy to just have a blow up season other than the odds that someone will?
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Post by agastonguay13 on Apr 2, 2021 10:16:51 GMT -5
Fwiw, Devers PA by year since he got to full-season ball: 2015 - 508 (4th in the system even with Chavis timeshare) 2016 - 546 (2nd in the system) 2017 - 598 2018 - 516 2019 - 702 2020 - 670 PA pace So he's generally stayed healthy save for 2018. Yeah, that's why I mentioned that I didn't know why I felt that way, it's just a vibe I get. Absolutely makes no sense.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 2, 2021 10:20:50 GMT -5
I mean, 266 HR's would have been 5th in the league in 2019, and the Sox are very deep in Power first guys (Dalbec, Cordero, Renfroe) and overall good hitters with power (JD, Devers, Bogaerts) so I don't think it's out of the question. As for the 5.00 ERA, it's just predicting the individuals likely outcome. Chances are someone is going to have a bad season, but why predict one guy to just have a blow up season other than the odds that someone will? Yup. And you put a heckuva lot of work in on this. I used to guestimate year-end stats of players and they were all within narrow parameters. We know that some guys will do better and some worse...but those kinds of predictions can't be made.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 2, 2021 10:41:23 GMT -5
I will put a big asterisk in that I probably did not put enough stock into how teams are going to handle starters innings coming off the shortened 2020 season. Mostly due to the fact I don't think anyone really knows yet. Will they shorten starts to 4-5 innings and shuffle the bullpen more often? Add a 6th starter? Skip every 2nd or 3rd start through the rotation and use a guy like Whitlock/Andriese? They all seem to be on the table. I do think Perez though likely leads the team in innings and games started, but that's based more on the fact that the other 4 have much bigger health questions than anything else. Some of the AB distribution doesn't look particularly correct to me. Chavis and Santana add up to a full season's worth of ABs. Arroyo plus Duran do as well. And you already have Marwin Gonzalez getting nearly a full season's worth of ABs. I guess that there's just so many ABs to go around, so I have trouble seeing that scenario. My guess is that you might be on target with Duran but it will eat into Renfroe's playing time. I don't see Chavis getting that many ABs unless he's traded to another team, nor do I see Santana getting anywhere near that amount of playing time. I think he'll get some ABs for the Sox, but I'd suspect the number will be around 100 or so. Frankly I wouldn't be shocked if he had no ABs for the Sox, especially if Arroyo plays well enough. If those guys I mentioned to get the ABs then that means some regular player is spending a lot of time on the DL. The context of the numbers if the players had the ABs look reasonable. I would guess that Vazquez hits more HRs than Verdugo but I can see the scenario the other way. It's possible that Franchy Cordero outhomers your projections, and same with Dalbec the way he's going. But I don't see 266 HRs. Probably 200 - 215 might be a more realistic projection.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 2, 2021 11:16:11 GMT -5
I will put a big asterisk in that I probably did not put enough stock into how teams are going to handle starters innings coming off the shortened 2020 season. Mostly due to the fact I don't think anyone really knows yet. Will they shorten starts to 4-5 innings and shuffle the bullpen more often? Add a 6th starter? Skip every 2nd or 3rd start through the rotation and use a guy like Whitlock/Andriese? They all seem to be on the table. I do think Perez though likely leads the team in innings and games started, but that's based more on the fact that the other 4 have much bigger health questions than anything else. But I don't see 266 HRs. Probably 200 - 215 might be a more realistic projection. They were on pace for 219 last season and hit 245 in 2019. Given the additions to the roster, I think they'll be a lot closer to 266 than 215.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 2, 2021 11:20:52 GMT -5
But I don't see 266 HRs. Probably 200 - 215 might be a more realistic projection. They were on pace for 219 last season and hit 245 in 2019. Given the additions to the roster, I think they'll be a lot closer to 266 than 215. Aren't they using a deader baseball this year in hopes of deflating HRs a bit?
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Apr 2, 2021 12:08:43 GMT -5
I will put a big asterisk in that I probably did not put enough stock into how teams are going to handle starters innings coming off the shortened 2020 season. Mostly due to the fact I don't think anyone really knows yet. Will they shorten starts to 4-5 innings and shuffle the bullpen more often? Add a 6th starter? Skip every 2nd or 3rd start through the rotation and use a guy like Whitlock/Andriese? They all seem to be on the table. I do think Perez though likely leads the team in innings and games started, but that's based more on the fact that the other 4 have much bigger health questions than anything else. Some of the AB distribution doesn't look particularly correct to me. Chavis and Santana add up to a full season's worth of ABs. Arroyo plus Duran do as well. And you already have Marwin Gonzalez getting nearly a full season's worth of ABs. I guess that there's just so many ABs to go around, so I have trouble seeing that scenario. Good point, looks like I probably overestimated by about 300-400 at bats total. The Red Sox previous seasons AB's are 5624 (prorated), 5770, 5623 and 5669. I've got 6018 projected, so that's too high, have to keep that in mind for next time, thanks!
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Post by blizzards39 on Apr 4, 2021 2:33:46 GMT -5
But I don't see 266 HRs. Probably 200 - 215 might be a more realistic projection. They were on pace for 219 last season and hit 245 in 2019. Given the additions to the roster, I think they'll be a lot closer to 266 than 215. How about 1 HR
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 12, 2021 23:47:02 GMT -5
They were on pace for 219 last season and hit 245 in 2019. Given the additions to the roster, I think they'll be a lot closer to 266 than 215. How about 1 HR After 91 game Sox have 115 HRs. On pace for 205
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Jul 13, 2021 10:43:13 GMT -5
Doing the unrealistic but basic math of doubling everyone's HR totals since we're about halfway through the season, the guys I was really off on were Marwin (I was way off on him across the board. Thought he'd be a big comeback guy), Dalbec (the avg looks about right just expected quite a few more of those singles and THREE TRIPLES to be homers), Franchy (and with the way he's hitting in Worcester maybe there's a slight chance he ends up with double digits?) and Vazquez (his HR rate of 1.3% is WAY down from 2020:3.7% and 2019:4.4%). Either way, quite a few guys on this team are over performing, so maybe there's some significant drop off in the second half.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 13, 2021 12:17:46 GMT -5
After 91 game Sox have 115 HRs. On pace for 205 Yep, despite the bounce back from JDM... And yet they're 5th in the AL in homers and 8th in the majors. Overall homers are down 11% from 2020 and 17% from 2019.
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