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4/29-5/2 Red Sox @ Rangers Series Thread
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Post by manfred on May 1, 2021 21:09:27 GMT -5
Ian Kennedy is an interesting choice to close for the Rangers. Guy gave up 7 HRs in 14 innings last year.
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Post by pedroiaesque on May 1, 2021 21:26:50 GMT -5
Not trying to be a homer here, but Ron Kulpa’s strike zone was all over the place tonight.
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Post by Jimmy on May 1, 2021 21:27:41 GMT -5
Just a strange game. ERod and Andriese hit hard. We score 6. Leave the bases loaded twice. Strange. Back at it tomorrow
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Post by cdj on May 1, 2021 22:40:22 GMT -5
Bullpen was bound to lose on eventually
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 1, 2021 22:45:15 GMT -5
Missed opportunity tonight. The game really turned in the 5th when the Sox loaded the bases with none out and had a 5-3 lead. One big hit might have put the game away, but when Vazquez couldn't get the run home, you kind of knew that Dalbec and Renfroe wouldn't. And again that part of the order wasn't very good, aside from the Renfroe HR.
E-Rod obviously wasn't at his best and Andriese had an off-night which wasn't helped by the ball Renfroe failed to cut off that scored an additional run. Then X didn't come through with the bases loaded and 2 outs in the 8th down a run and that was the game.
On the plus side Arroyo played well again so at least somebody who's not Verdugo/JDM/X/Devers is contributing to the offense.
Dalbec didn't look good tonight. I know he has some barrels that indicate his stats should be better, but he really hasn't played that well. I do hope he can turn it around. Too early to give up on him. And at least Cordero is making some contact, but nothing really impressive.
Hope they can salvage the split tomorrow.
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Post by ericmvan on May 2, 2021 9:56:58 GMT -5
Missed opportunity tonight. The game really turned in the 5th when the Sox loaded the bases with none out and had a 5-3 lead. One big hit might have put the game away, but when Vazquez couldn't get the run home, you kind of knew that Dalbec and Renfroe wouldn't. And again that part of the order wasn't very good, aside from the Renfroe HR. E-Rod obviously wasn't at his best and Andriese had an off-night which wasn't helped by the ball Renfroe failed to cut off that scored an additional run. Then X didn't come through with the bases loaded and 2 outs in the 8th down a run and that was the game. On the plus side Arroyo played well again so at least somebody who's not Verdugo/JDM/X/Devers is contributing to the offense. Dalbec didn't look good tonight. I know he has some barrels that indicate his stats should be better, but he really hasn't played that well. I do hope he can turn it around. Too early to give up on him. And at least Cordero is making some contact, but nothing really impressive. Hope they can salvage the split tomorrow. Dalbec struggled terribly the first 3 games of the season, and he's struggled terribly the last 4, since he faced de Grom.
In between, from April 7 to April 27 he hit .294 / .345 / .471 despite having horrendous luck on batted balls. He had a .458 xwOBA (.353 actual), ranking 11th out of 244 hitters with 40+ PA (he had 55).
Nobody noticed this because he started the season 0/10, BB, 5 SO and the three weeks with very good results only got his season line up to .246 / .303 / .393. Now he's tacked on an 0/14, HB, 6 SO.
Now, the 7 terrible games count as much as the 16 great -> good ones in between, but his overall .353 xwOBA ranks 107th out of 310 qualified players, 18th out of the 30 1B with the most PA. So without the bad luck he's been a perfectly solid / adequate hitter for his elite-offense position, despite being completely helpless 30% of the time.
He's actually 4th on the team in xwOBA, ahead of Xander, who's had a bevy of cheapos.
Meanwhile, the team is destroying it with the bases empty and is a bit below MLB average with runners on. That ordinarily has very little predictive power, but it may have something to do with the lineup imbalance -- are the men-on opportunities going disproportionately to the lineup holes? I'll look at that in the off day.
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Post by dyoungteach on May 2, 2021 11:45:54 GMT -5
I get trading Beni, and I never thought Franchy had a snowball’s chance of being our LF... but I anticipate the prospects. Still... serious question: when was the last time a Sox GM got such a free pass? I mean, they were terrible last year when he went with a little league pitching staff, and people said “Dombrowski left them bad off.” Fine. This year, the Cherington/Dombrowski Sox are on fire, and the off-season FA acquisitions are a very mixed bag... including, for the first time, a total-Bloom OF that is barely positive WAR (and is worse than last year’s). But he wanted to save money etc. So... pass. Many of his trades are “too soon to tell,” based on prospects... a number of whom could be a few years away. So, for example, the Beni trade can’t be judged until, say, 2024? So pass until then? I guess it just seems like I don’t remember Theo or Ben or DD getting zero grief for their moves that flopped (or appeared to). Hell, DD got destroyed for the Pom trade, but Pom is a dominant reliever now and AE is... I think throwing? And remember part of the argument and as what he *could* have gotten for AE. DD got murdered for his Eovaldi extension, and who is this year’s #1? I’ve basically seen a guy playing the paper clip game backwards. Start with a WS champion and get... Hunter Renfroe? Kiké Hernandez? But I guess that is not fair until 2024? Bloom has done one thing. Rebuilt Sox from the craphole dombrowski left us in. We had zero depth or sustainable team UNLESS we spent another 10-15% each year. It wasn’t the trades so much as the rich signings and trades that gutted our system. Margot on Sox is a starter right now. Eovaldi and sale were horrible extensions at the cost. Pom was not great and we gave up a highly rated starter for him. Bloom has done nothing yet to hurt us for tomorrow. Now I will question if he’s willing to go for the “knockout impact punch” at some time. This years trade deadline will be interesting if they are still in playoff mix. Benetendi we have no clue about yet because we don’t know the last 3 pieces. And Franchy has a ton of time to turn things around. The hardest part of youth or inexperience is allowing them time to stumble around and stay competitive. He’s doing exactly that! Dom builds winners. At expense of future years. It will be interesting to see if Phillies follow this pattern
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Post by manfred on May 2, 2021 13:10:53 GMT -5
High wire act again today. See if Richards’ adjustments stick, and see how a bottom of Marwin-Renfroe-Franchy-Plawecki do. This is a real fingers-crossed kinda game. And hope Devers just got a temporary stinger in his shoulder.
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Post by Guidas on May 2, 2021 14:00:31 GMT -5
That bright Texas sky can be tricky.
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Post by nomar on May 2, 2021 14:26:00 GMT -5
Feel like we should never be playing this exact group of players. Way, way too weak of a lineup.
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Post by Guidas on May 2, 2021 14:28:54 GMT -5
I get trading Beni, and I never thought Franchy had a snowball’s chance of being our LF... but I anticipate the prospects. Still... serious question: when was the last time a Sox GM got such a free pass? I mean, they were terrible last year when he went with a little league pitching staff, and people said “Dombrowski left them bad off.” Fine. This year, the Cherington/Dombrowski Sox are on fire, and the off-season FA acquisitions are a very mixed bag... including, for the first time, a total-Bloom OF that is barely positive WAR (and is worse than last year’s). But he wanted to save money etc. So... pass. Many of his trades are “too soon to tell,” based on prospects... a number of whom could be a few years away. So, for example, the Beni trade can’t be judged until, say, 2024? So pass until then? I guess it just seems like I don’t remember Theo or Ben or DD getting zero grief for their moves that flopped (or appeared to). Hell, DD got destroyed for the Pom trade, but Pom is a dominant reliever now and AE is... I think throwing? And remember part of the argument and as what he *could* have gotten for AE. DD got murdered for his Eovaldi extension, and who is this year’s #1? I’ve basically seen a guy playing the paper clip game backwards. Start with a WS champion and get... Hunter Renfroe? Kiké Hernandez? But I guess that is not fair until 2024? Bloom has done one thing. Rebuilt Sox from the craphole dombrowski left us in. We had zero depth or sustainable team UNLESS we spent another 10-15% each year. It wasn’t the trades so much as the rich signings and trades that gutted our system. Margot on Sox is a starter right now. Eovaldi and sale were horrible extensions at the cost. Pom was not great and we gave up a highly rated starter for him. Bloom has done nothing yet to hurt us for tomorrow. Now I will question if he’s willing to go for the “knockout impact punch” at some time. This years trade deadline will be interesting if they are still in playoff mix. Benetendi we have no clue about yet because we don’t know the last 3 pieces. And Franchy has a ton of time to turn things around. The hardest part of youth or inexperience is allowing them time to stumble around and stay competitive. He’s doing exactly that! Dom builds winners. At expense of future years. It will be interesting to see if Phillies follow this pattern I was not a huge fan of Dombrowski - in fact I was pretty vocal in my objection of the Kimbrel (I was livid at losing Margot for a reliever) and Thornburg (ditto regarding Dubon and Shaw) trades, and not a huge fan of him extending Sale before the season or his post World Series moves (although I was all for retaining Eovaldi). But one thing I did respect was that he kept his focus firmly on the fact that an MLB team's first objective is to win at the MLB level. Also, he did resist the temptation/opportunity to trade Devers, Dalbec and a few others. In terms of who he did trade, sans the Sale deal which I think the bulk of us supported, other than Margot and Shaw, I'm trying to recall who he moved that "gutted" the system. Maybe I missed someone but most of the guys who went out the door were org guys. I agree with the part of your contention that the rich signings really hurt. In fact, in my mind that was the real "gutting." Extending an oft-injured Sale (coming off an injury, no less) before the 2019 season and resigning Pearce and Kelly (and many will say Eovaldi though I think he will earn out his contract using Fangraphs WAR to dollars conversion) using up a ton of salary when the team could've been improved - and even Henry saying "I didn't think we were going to bring back the exact same players." I know a lot of people now point to the Price signing but, again, I think the board was pretty supportive of that move when it was made and it gave up no prospects. Anyway, the model should be the Dodgers, and may be long term, but that won't happen until this organization learns how to draft and develop starting pitchers who are more than 5s at best. LAD has done this well under Friedman, as well as drafting and developing MLB-average or better position players, despite picking as low, if not lower than Boston.
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Post by incandenza on May 2, 2021 14:29:34 GMT -5
Felt to me like JDM has been hitting a lot of GIDPs, and sure enough he's leading the majors. (Not that I'll complain too much about a guy with a 1.188 OPS.)
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Post by Guidas on May 2, 2021 14:33:22 GMT -5
Felt to me like JDM has been hitting a lot of GIDPs, and sure enough he's leading the majors. (Not that I'll complain too much about a guy with a 1.188 OPS.) I noticed this recently, too. He seems like he's either tatooing the ball or topping it.
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Post by Guidas on May 2, 2021 14:39:10 GMT -5
Xander!
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Post by chrisfromnc on May 2, 2021 14:41:40 GMT -5
How fun is it when the shortstop you have been following since he was 17 years old turns out to be the best shortstop in the American League?
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Post by kjkramer on May 2, 2021 14:48:37 GMT -5
I have seen enough of Franchy. I have not given up on him long term but I have for now. Does he have options?
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Post by manfred on May 2, 2021 14:52:34 GMT -5
I have seen enough of Franchy. I have not given up on him long term but I have for now. Does he have options? I haven’t given up in the sense that I’d stick him in AAA and see. I have given up in the sense that he is 27 and terrible. I think there not a good chance the Sox outfield next year includes him.
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Post by soxfaninnj on May 2, 2021 14:53:04 GMT -5
How fun is it when the shortstop you have been following since he was 17 years old turns out to be the best shortstop in the American League? He went from good player to superstar under Cora
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 2, 2021 14:56:19 GMT -5
I have seen enough of Franchy. I have not given up on him long term but I have for now. Does he have options? Supposing the mlb Red Sox send down Cordero and bring up Santana, who gets DFAed. I hope it is Colton Brewer.
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Post by Guidas on May 2, 2021 14:57:16 GMT -5
I have seen enough of Franchy. I have not given up on him long term but I have for now. Does he have options? I haven’t given up in the sense that I’d stick him in AAA and see. I have given up in the sense that he is 27 and terrible. I think there not a good chance the Sox outfield next year includes him. I am hoping that, without a dramatic turnaround, he is in AAA soon. Like, Monday.
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Post by manfred on May 2, 2021 14:58:35 GMT -5
I haven’t given up in the sense that I’d stick him in AAA and see. I have given up in the sense that he is 27 and terrible. I think there not a good chance the Sox outfield next year includes him. I am hoping that, without a dramatic turnaround, he is in AAA soon. Like, Monday. It feels like if he can’t drive the ball in Texas against yhe Rangers pitchers, it is not happening.
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Post by Guidas on May 2, 2021 15:05:26 GMT -5
C'mon now, no more squanders.
ADDED: Brutal.
Also: The Kiké lead-off experiment needs to end. He's a 7-9 hitter and always has been. Cora's magical thinking of "believing in him" won't change this.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 2, 2021 15:06:03 GMT -5
It would be really surprising if Cordero isn't in AAA as soon as the games start. Hopefully he puts up a 900 OPS and we start talking ourselves into him.
I'm officially Feeling Good about Richards going forward.
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Post by kevfc89 on May 2, 2021 15:11:48 GMT -5
dammit JD
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Post by soxfaninnj on May 2, 2021 15:13:07 GMT -5
just like yesterday these brutal squanders are gonna come back to hurt us
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