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Post by foreverred9 on Jun 26, 2022 8:44:25 GMT -5
I think the better question is, "Why is Kavadas ranked outside the top forty?" Great approach. Shoved. Got promoted. Shoves even harder. The answer to that is in the Niko Kavadas thread: forum.soxprospects.com/post/540389/thread
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jun 26, 2022 8:51:01 GMT -5
Considering that the team does the rankings what, monthly(?) during the season, I imagine that all, or most will be made clear then. I trust the process.
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Post by patford on Jun 26, 2022 8:54:35 GMT -5
I think the better question is, "Why is Kavadas ranked outside the top forty?" Great approach. Shoved. Got promoted. Shoves even harder. The answer to that is in the Niko Kavadas thread: forum.soxprospects.com/post/540389/threadThanks. I don't know any of these guys aside from written reports but it's hard to see any reason why (for example) Tyler McDonough is #23 when he's the same age, same level. I get that Kavadas is at best an MLB three true outcome DH but McDonough is at best an org guy who has many other utility player options ahead of him.
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Post by cdj on Jun 26, 2022 9:39:32 GMT -5
Thanks. I don't know any of these guys aside from written reports but it's hard to see any reason why (for example) Tyler McDonough is #23 when he's the same age, same level. I get that Kavadas is at best an MLB three true outcome DH but McDonough is at best an org guy who has many other utility player options ahead of him. Because McDonough plays good defense up the middle and has been playing at a level higher for 99% of the year. That’s an entire side of the game he’s pretty good at- at a premium position too- that Kavadas is a minus at. That doesn’t even get into the vast difference in running. Kavadas will basically have to hit like this at every level to make it, McDonough does not. Also I don’t know how you can make the claim McDonough is at best an org guy when he’s halfway through his first full season. He’s shown some interesting stuff, especially since his cold start. Sure that’s a possible result, it’s just silly to put firm tags on ppl so early into their pro careers
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 26, 2022 9:47:52 GMT -5
I think the better question is, "Why is Kavadas ranked outside the top forty?" Great approach. Shoved. Got promoted. Shoves even harder. A) Patience, grasshopper. B) FYI: Pitchers shove. Hitters rake. Reverse doesn't work.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 26, 2022 9:51:59 GMT -5
Thanks. I don't know any of these guys aside from written reports but it's hard to see any reason why (for example) Tyler McDonough is #23 when he's the same age, same level. I get that Kavadas is at best an MLB three true outcome DH but McDonough is at best an org guy who has many other utility player options ahead of him. Because McDonough plays good defense up the middle and has been playing at a level higher for 99% of the year. That’s an entire side of the game he’s pretty good at- at a premium position too- that Kavadas is a minus at. That doesn’t even get into the vast difference in running. Kavadas will basically have to hit like this at every level to make it, McDonough does not. Also I don’t know how you can make the claim McDonough is at best an org guy when he’s halfway through his first full season. He’s shown some interesting stuff, especially since his cold start. Sure that’s a possible result, it’s just silly to put firm tags on ppl so early into their pro careers Yeah I think the obvious reason McDonough is ranked higher is that we don't think he's an org guy at best, right? Also, the players ahead of a guy have nothing to do with how we rank them. We're projecting future value of that player, not protecting future role with the Boston Red Sox. Kavadas is half a year older and has been playing a level lower all year. He may or may not be able to play first base while McDonough can play above-average defense at second, center, and left. McDonough can run a bit and Kavadas is probably a 30 runner at best. But yeah, gap is closing next week. It's just that a player like McDonough has so many more ways to make it to MLB, and that counts for something, and he'll still be ranked higher for that reason.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 30, 2022 8:54:04 GMT -5
Blaze Jordan triple slash line for June (105 PA): Dayyym! Even if you’re in the Avg/Obp/Slg sort of thing, it’s still very impressive at: .407/.476/.659
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Post by dangermike on Jun 30, 2022 10:27:55 GMT -5
is blaze in greenville by august 1st?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 30, 2022 11:17:58 GMT -5
Somewhat arbitrary endpoints, save trying to split between series: 4/8 - 5/1: 78 PA, .181/.244/.264, 3 2B, 1 HR, 5% BB%, 23% K%, .226 BABIP 5/3 - 6/5: 121 PA, .312/.364/.495, 12 2B, 1 3B, 2 HR, 8% BB%, 14% K%, .348 BABIP Since June 7: 86 PA, .429/.488/.714, 5 2B, 1 3B, 5 HR, 9% BB%, 10% K%, .444 BABIP
So drawing some extremely tentative conclusions from the above: - He's been improving the K rate slowly. - The power has been coming on slowly. - He may have been having some bad BIP luck early. - He may be having some good BIP luck right now.
In the era of week-long series, doing the arbitrary endpoints game like this always carries huge caveats though. That last time period includes 3 series and 2 games in a fourth. If one of the three teams he had a full series against had a bad pitching staff... you get the idea. Goes the other direction in the early group.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 30, 2022 11:37:30 GMT -5
You know what? I really thought that you'll write a comment regarding the level of competition he's been facing and here you are lol Look man, he's one of the youngest hitter in his league, he's making tons of contact and he chasing less and less and we know that the raw power is tantalizing. Why the skepticism?
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 30, 2022 11:42:43 GMT -5
He now has the 5th best K-rate in the Carolina League. There's one younger guy ahead of him, but he has a .203 slugging average.
wOBA is 26 points higher than what Casas put up at the same age and level.
Just make sure to turn off the video once he starts running or fielding
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Post by radiohix on Jun 30, 2022 12:51:07 GMT -5
wOBA is 26 points higher than what Casas put up at the same age and level. In a tougher hitting environment too.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jun 30, 2022 14:06:03 GMT -5
Awesome numbers. I figured early...another Joey Gallo type, but NO. If he is even close to those numbers in July, no one should hold themselves back. We know the power is there. I just wish he was OK defensively at one position.
DH types are fine, but I would prefer to have our major league club use the DH as a place to get someone off their feet but keep their bat in the line-up. I do appreciate what JD has done for us, but I would like a Trevor Story to be the DH one day and then get back in the field the next.
Oh...color me very intrigued with THE Blaze. Love that name!!
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Post by patford on Jun 30, 2022 18:19:14 GMT -5
Nice to hear Chris and Ian talk at a fair amount of length about Jordan and Kavadas on the new podcast. Putting aside the age difference (which wasn't mentioned) the big distinction in Kavadas has a far superior approach and perhaps even more importantly he has bat speed and hammers velocity. The concern with Jordan is what may be a lack of bat speed and an inability to handle velocity. One thought which occurs to me is do we know that Jordan isn't being coached to work on going the other way. I mean if he was being completely blown away by velocity then he would not just be late he would be not making contact at all. On the other hand Kavadas is so advanced in terms of approach that he really does not need a lot of coaching or suggestions. He is simply going to move through they system with what he has and it will be seen whether or not his more or less finished approach and bat speed play at the higher levels. I came away with the impression that both Ian and Chris think there is a fair chance that Kavadas can be an MLB DH. I wonder if the Sox might bump him up to Portland by the end of the year. He's not exactly old but he's not a kid and he isn't raw. Why not just see how things translate in a pretty aggressive way?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 29, 2023 8:23:18 GMT -5
Shouldn’t Jordan also be promoted? Maybe the most under-rated Sox prospect. I'm guessing scouts don't like his body type but all he does is keep hitting. Copied from the Mayer thread. For what it's worth, in April, he had one of the highest chase rates and lowest pitches per PA average in the system. I'm curious to see how that looks after another month though.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on May 29, 2023 17:18:11 GMT -5
Maybe the most under-rated Sox prospect. I'm guessing scouts don't like his body type but all he does is keep hitting. Copied from the Mayer thread. For what it's worth, in April, he had one of the highest chase rates and lowest pitches per PA average in the system. I'm curious to see how that looks after another month though. Thanks for sharing that. Now I understand at least why everyone is waiting for the other shoe to drop. He may be the exception to the rule but the ranking makes alot more sense to me know. Edit: Shame on me, I know when he was drafted he was kind of a doughy body and not what scouts crave so I assumed that was the reason. I didn't do my homework.
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Post by bcsox on May 30, 2023 21:45:58 GMT -5
Two more hits tonight. I know I am scouting the box scores but this kid keeps hitting and gets minimal if any love on this board. I know the thought is that he can’t hit heat, but you don’t get a .310 average after this many at bats hitting just off speed stuff. Is there anything he is doing better or improving on which would raise his stock on this board?
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 31, 2023 0:50:24 GMT -5
Two more hits tonight. I know I am scouting the box scores but this kid keeps hitting and gets minimal if any love on this board. I know the thought is that he can’t hit heat, but you don’t get a .310 average after this many at bats hitting just off speed stuff. Is there anything he is doing better or improving on which would raise his stock on this board? Honestly, I'm still kinda shocked they're still giving Binelas reps at 1B/3B/DH in Portland when they can be given to Blaze even with his chase rate. He's had ~250 ABs in A+ w/ roughly a .300 avg/.850 OPS line. Time to challenge the kid.
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Post by pappyman99 on May 31, 2023 7:28:37 GMT -5
I’ve felt this sit has underrated Blaze and Brainer for a while now.
Blaze is definitely keeping up the hitting this year
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Post by wcsoxfan on May 31, 2023 11:18:45 GMT -5
Two more hits tonight. I know I am scouting the box scores but this kid keeps hitting and gets minimal if any love on this board. I know the thought is that he can’t hit heat, but you don’t get a .310 average after this many at bats hitting just off speed stuff. Is there anything he is doing better or improving on which would raise his stock on this board? Honestly, I'm still kinda shocked they're still giving Binelas reps at 1B/3B/DH in Portland when they can be given to Blaze even with his chase rate. He's had ~250 ABs in A+ w/ roughly a .300 avg/.850 OPS line. Time to challenge the kid. Lugo, Binelas and Koss are all struggling to find playing time in Portland. Binelas has played only once in their last 4 games. They could bump Koss to AAA and drop Binelas to high-A, but with Kavadas and Meidroth at the corners, Blaze still wouldn't get regular playing time. I don't think Blaze goes up until a decision is made with Kavadas (bench role or promotion) to clear playing time. A Yorke promotion would be another option (with Meidroth moving to 2b) but I'm sure he will only be moved up when he's good and ready.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 31, 2023 11:30:00 GMT -5
A+ seems like the right level for Blaze to me. He's 11th in wOBA out of 35 age 21 and under players in the league, as a bat-only guy. The at bats were really ugly in April, I haven't watched much in May.
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Post by art on May 31, 2023 11:36:24 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm still kinda shocked they're still giving Binelas reps at 1B/3B/DH in Portland when they can be given to Blaze even with his chase rate. He's had ~250 ABs in A+ w/ roughly a .300 avg/.850 OPS line. Time to challenge the kid. Lugo, Binelas and Koss are all struggling to find playing time in Portland. Binelas has played only once in their last 4 games. They could bump Koss to AAA and drop Binelas to high-A, but with Kavadas and Meidroth at the corners, Blaze still wouldn't get regular playing time. I don't think Blaze goes up until a decision is made with Kavadas (bench role or promotion) to clear playing time. A Yorke promotion would be another option (with Meidroth moving to 2b) but I'm sure he will only be moved up when he's good and ready. Koss is at Worcester as of yesterday.
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Post by jbsox on Jun 18, 2023 9:35:31 GMT -5
I just read an article on Blaze. For the month of June Blaze is now batting .333/.429/.563, and for the whole season is batting .315/.368/.516 with 18 doubles, 1 triple, 8 home runs, 42 RBIs, 18 walks, 36 strikeouts in 242 plate appearances. Other notable stats in the South Atlantic League he ranks second in total bases (113), 3rd in extra base hits (27), 4th in batting average, 8th in slugging, 9th in OPS, 16th in isolated power, and 3rd in strikeout rate.
Do people think he could be propelling himself into top 100 prospect status? With Devers locking down 3rd, and Casas given the chance to lock down 1st I’m not sure what his future holds on the Sox, maybe something like a Justin Turner role. That’s if he can keep on progressing.
I’m curious what people think of Blaze at this point?
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Post by cdj on Jun 18, 2023 9:59:02 GMT -5
Kid can impact the ball for sure. Those poor apartments. He’ll have to do it at every level- I’ll personally start getting excited about him if he keeps it up in AA
For now I think he’s a nice prospect with a wide range of outcomes. If you told me he struggles in the high minors I would believe that and if you told me he becomes a .270 30 homer guy in the bigs I would believe that too
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Post by bluechip on Jun 18, 2023 12:13:33 GMT -5
I just read an article on Blaze. For the month of June Blaze is now batting .333/.429/.563, and for the whole season is batting .315/.368/.516 with 18 doubles, 1 triple, 8 home runs, 42 RBIs, 18 walks, 36 strikeouts in 242 plate appearances. Other notable stats in the South Atlantic League he ranks second in total bases (113), 3rd in extra base hits (27), 4th in batting average, 8th in slugging, 9th in OPS, 16th in isolated power, and 3rd in strikeout rate. Do people think he could be propelling himself into top 100 prospect status? With Devers locking down 3rd, and Casas given the chance to lock down 1st I’m not sure what his future holds on the Sox, maybe something like a Justin Turner role. That’s if he can keep on progressing. I’m curious what people think of Blaze at this point? Problem is that Masataka really does need to spend more time at DH as well. He is an amazing bat, but he really shouldn’t be playing the field as much as he does and as he gets into his 30s…
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