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Bruins '21 OFFSEASON Thread
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Post by texs31 on Jun 24, 2021 7:43:04 GMT -5
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Post by texs31 on Jun 25, 2021 13:20:03 GMT -5
2 year deal for Frederic. 1.05 per yr on the cap. I like it.
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Post by tizzle on Jun 25, 2021 13:51:03 GMT -5
2 year deal for Frederic. 1.05 per yr on the cap. I like it. Yep, great deal. Thought he might cost a little more than that. Probably means he'll be protected in expansion draft. Not definite, as he'd have to have been protected or exposed even if he didn't sign (as an RFA), but if you weren't going to protect him, you likely don't give him this deal, which makes him more attractive as an option, imo.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 26, 2021 9:37:13 GMT -5
In case it wasn't obvious (not sure the rules on contracts) this is a one-way deal. He's not waivers exempt anyways so that point was probably a given.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 28, 2021 7:09:10 GMT -5
Heartbreaking news this morning as David Pastrnak announced that his newborn son, Viggo, passed away.
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Post by tizzle on Jun 28, 2021 14:26:21 GMT -5
Yep, just horrific. Poor Pasta.
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Post by bigmarty58 on Jun 28, 2021 17:24:48 GMT -5
Rest in peace little Viggo. Hearts and prayers go out to mom and dad.
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Post by cdj on Jun 28, 2021 22:38:12 GMT -5
Worlds just not right sometimes. Brutal. Poor kid didn’t even get a chance.
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Post by dangermike on Jul 13, 2021 21:30:00 GMT -5
about a week away until seattles expansion draft - can someone convince me why debrusk shouldn't be dangled? i dont hate his game but he carries a decent sized cap hit that we can really use for a 3rd line lw that would better suit the team. yeah it feels like losing him for nothing, but debrusk just feels like a change of scenery guy
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Post by tizzle on Jul 13, 2021 21:59:27 GMT -5
The argument is an easy one- he's got trade value.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 14, 2021 0:01:32 GMT -5
about a week away until seattles expansion draft - can someone convince me why debrusk shouldn't be dangled? i dont hate his game but he carries a decent sized cap hit that we can really use for a 3rd line lw that would better suit the team. yeah it feels like losing him for nothing, but debrusk just feels like a change of scenery guy Kind of hard to see right at the moment but "potential" would be the word. He has shown plenty and also let us down recently. He could need a change of scenery but the B's IMO have a good environment and leadership group that could be the answer. I think he is tough enough to get it if you know what I mean.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 14, 2021 6:21:04 GMT -5
If you really want to protect your young D (Lauzon, Zboril, Clifton) then maybe you expose DeBrusk (bc they'll likely take him and not those guys). If you're okay losing 1 of them, you expose Ritchie (who is fine but is what he is and, with RFA status, will not be THAT far behind JD in cap hit).
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Post by dangermike on Jul 14, 2021 7:13:59 GMT -5
If you really want to protect your young D (Lauzon, Zboril, Clifton) then maybe you expose DeBrusk (bc they'll likely take him and not those guys). If you're okay losing 1 of them, you expose Ritchie (who is fine but is what he is and, with RFA status, will not be THAT far behind JD in cap hit). this is where my heads at- if lauzon is unprotected but not debrusk, then we probably lose lauzon. debrusk might be better right now but costs about 4x as much and he’s not 4x more valuable especially with our troubles trying to find someone who’s not a lifeless corpse to play defense.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 14, 2021 7:34:44 GMT -5
NHL Offseason is gonna come fast:
Saturday - Protection lists are due so we could see some player movement around the league (teams with too many valuable players to protect) in preparation.
Wednesday (1 wk from today) - Expansion Draft
Friday (9 days) - NHL Draft
7/28 - NHL Free Agency begins.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 14, 2021 7:38:07 GMT -5
Meanwhile, some big names (and they may only be that at this point) were added to the FA Market as the Wild bought out both Ryan Suter and Zach Parise.
Not sure I have much interest in Parise unless a) he's going to come really cheap and b) Boston has moves for both Ritchie (expansion loss) and DeBrusk (trade). Feel like he's a 3rd liner at best right now.
Suter, on the other hand, could interest me as a top 4 LHD to go with either McAvoy or Carlo. He's old but still has something left (even if it's not the .7 points per game from 2 years ago). Again, would want him on the cheaper side but he may not need much since he'll still be getting paid by Minnesota.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 14, 2021 8:46:11 GMT -5
Kevan Miller announces his retirement via his instagram account.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 14, 2021 11:45:19 GMT -5
Waiting for details but Joe McDonald is reporting that Boston and Carlo have a agreed to a deal.
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Post by cdj on Jul 14, 2021 11:57:51 GMT -5
Kevan Miller was a Bruin to his core. Best wishes in retirement
Hopefully they can sign Suter, he’s a really good fit. He’s not in his prime anymore but is still plenty useful and can still be a workhorse
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Post by texs31 on Jul 14, 2021 12:32:40 GMT -5
6 yrs with a 4.1/Yr Cap Hit for Carlo
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Post by cdj on Jul 14, 2021 13:05:01 GMT -5
Good deal provided the concussions don’t turn into a long term problem
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Post by tizzle on Jul 14, 2021 14:26:27 GMT -5
If you really want to protect your young D (Lauzon, Zboril, Clifton) then maybe you expose DeBrusk (bc they'll likely take him and not those guys). If you're okay losing 1 of them, you expose Ritchie (who is fine but is what he is and, with RFA status, will not be THAT far behind JD in cap hit). That's certainly a very valid reason to expose DeBrusk. Of course, that would mean acknowledging that Ritchie must not have much value, if no one thinks the teams that would take JDB would take Ritchie. The thing with protecting all the young D-men for me becomes a question of how many of them we really need to keep anyway. After the 3 we'll protect, I think it's certain we'll acquire one other vet, and I'd bet on two (one may be a cheap type). And we're almost certainly stuck with John Moore. So, how many young guys will play a role. With Lauzon, Clifton (who could be considered a vet at this point), Zboril, Vaakanainen (my personal fav) and Ahcan, it's fair to wonder if losing one of them would really be a big deal. The ultimate question is whether we think DeBrusk would bring more in a trade than, say, Lauzon. The team needs to figure that out and I'm sure they've been gauging such.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 14, 2021 14:27:59 GMT -5
6 yrs with a 4.1/Yr Cap Hit for Carlo I had heard 5 mil was the expected price for him, so this is good news in terms of what we can do this offseason. I guess they gave extra years to keep the cap hit down. Obviously risky with his injury history, but it also says that their evaluations determined he was worth it.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 14, 2021 15:12:57 GMT -5
If you really want to protect your young D (Lauzon, Zboril, Clifton) then maybe you expose DeBrusk (bc they'll likely take him and not those guys). If you're okay losing 1 of them, you expose Ritchie (who is fine but is what he is and, with RFA status, will not be THAT far behind JD in cap hit). That's certainly a very valid reason to expose DeBrusk. Of course, that would mean acknowledging that Ritchie must not have much value, if no one thinks the teams that would take JDB would take Ritchie. The thing with protecting all the young D-men for me becomes a question of how many of them we really need to keep anyway. After the 3 we'll protect, I think it's certain we'll acquire one other vet, and I'd bet on two (one may be a cheap type). And we're almost certainly stuck with John Moore. So, how many young guys will play a role. With Lauzon, Clifton (who could be considered a vet at this point), Zboril, Vaakanainen (my personal fav) and Ahcan, it's fair to wonder if losing one of them would really be a big deal. The ultimate question is whether we think DeBrusk would bring more in a trade than, say, Lauzon. The team needs to figure that out and I'm sure they've been gauging such. I think the motivation for "protecting" (not that any of the D would go on the protected list but putting JD on the list of players available to Seattle GREATLY reduces the likelihood that 1 is taken) is to get value for them. That value could be in your lineup OR by using them in a trade. Letting 1 go in the expansion draft provides you no return value. As for JD vs. Ritchie, I'm not so sure it's "no value" on Ritchie. It's just a case of who has more? A young cost-controlled D, a 3.6M F who has been a 2nd liner until this past year or an RFA 3rd liner who's never been much more than that and probably never will. Bruins are gonna lose a good (valuable) player to Seattle. Just trying to minimize it.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 14, 2021 15:26:58 GMT -5
That's certainly a very valid reason to expose DeBrusk. Of course, that would mean acknowledging that Ritchie must not have much value, if no one thinks the teams that would take JDB would take Ritchie. The thing with protecting all the young D-men for me becomes a question of how many of them we really need to keep anyway. After the 3 we'll protect, I think it's certain we'll acquire one other vet, and I'd bet on two (one may be a cheap type). And we're almost certainly stuck with John Moore. So, how many young guys will play a role. With Lauzon, Clifton (who could be considered a vet at this point), Zboril, Vaakanainen (my personal fav) and Ahcan, it's fair to wonder if losing one of them would really be a big deal. The ultimate question is whether we think DeBrusk would bring more in a trade than, say, Lauzon. The team needs to figure that out and I'm sure they've been gauging such. I think the motivation for "protecting" (not that any of the D would go on the protected list but putting JD on the list of players available to Seattle GREATLY reduces the likelihood that 1 is taken) is to get value for them. That value could be in your lineup OR by using them in a trade. Letting 1 go in the expansion draft provides you no return value. As for JD vs. Ritchie, I'm not so sure it's "no value" on Ritchie. It's just a case of who has more? A young cost-controlled D, a 3.6M F who has been a 2nd liner until this past year or an RFA 3rd liner who's never been much more than that and probably never will. Bruins are gonna lose a good (valuable) player to Seattle. Just trying to minimize it. No, the Ritchie point is that, if you think exposing DeBrusk means he gets drafted and not the Defensemen, but protecting DebRusk means one of the Defensemen goes, then that means you don't believe Seattle would take Ritchie. That means you think DeBrusk's value is greater than Ritchie's. It really makes no sense to argue otherwise. That's really an academic point, but it just is what it is. Again, the only question is, if you think DeBrusk gets drafted if exposed and Lauzon does if not, whether you think you can get better value in a JDB trade than Lauzon brings. Anything else is just noise. You can replace Lauzon with Zboril or Clifton if you think they'd get picked instead, but the argument remains the same.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 14, 2021 15:29:51 GMT -5
Sorry. Missed what you meant.
I think the hiring of young (no experienced) coach means Seattle will be looking for upside which is why I put JD and the young D (Lauzon, really) in front of Ritchie.
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