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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 19, 2021 20:22:20 GMT -5
Vladar can’t be optioned next year without being exposed to waivers. I don’t think getting a veteran goalie for the Bruins is a given. They may try to sign a veteran for Providence instead.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 20, 2021 12:14:30 GMT -5
Haggerty saying that he has more sources saying Kraken are most interested in Zboril. Of the 3 in question, he probably has the most upside but just a great chance of not reaching it (IMO).
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Post by tizzle on Jul 20, 2021 13:32:09 GMT -5
Haggerty saying that he has more sources saying Kraken are most interested in Zboril. Of the 3 in question, he probably has the most upside but just a great chance of not reaching it (IMO). That would be the best case scenario for us. I don't want to lose Lauzon for nothing, but him instead of Clifton would be a bit fo a relief to me. So, Zboril (or even Ritchie) would be champagne time. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 20, 2021 16:31:42 GMT -5
Haggerty saying that he has more sources saying Kraken are most interested in Zboril. Of the 3 in question, he probably has the most upside but just a great chance of not reaching it (IMO). That would be the best case scenario for us. I don't want to lose Lauzon for nothing, but him instead of Clifton would be a bit fo a relief to me. So, Zboril (or even Ritchie) would be champagne time. It’s best case unless Zboril blows up… ha |
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Post by cdj on Jul 20, 2021 17:05:24 GMT -5
zboril is kinda like Colin Miller for me
Great set of tools, doesn’t really know how to use them. But I do think he will be a regular NHL defenseman and if anybody knows anything about these guys it’s Jay Leach so it wouldn’t shock me at all if he broke out if he is in fact who they take
Haggs is kinda a hack tho
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Post by texs31 on Jul 21, 2021 9:14:02 GMT -5
@frankseravalli reporting meaningful progress on T Hall. Says he wouldn't be surprised if it's 4/6m
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 21, 2021 9:25:50 GMT -5
Leach is a Zboril fan so maybe that is the play. We can hope!!
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Post by texs31 on Jul 21, 2021 9:33:18 GMT -5
Haggs is kinda a hack tho Just to go off topic a bit, largely as a piggy back off the Keith Law comments that some made in the draft related threads, what do we mean by stuff like this? Are we questioning their access? Their motives? Or the hockey knowledge? I disagree with a lot when it comes to Haggs but I still believe he has access and when it's clear that he's reporting information, I still find it valuable. Granted, I bang my head against a wall every time I read his takes about the 2015 Draft. Not that he's wrong but that it's tired and carries a lot of "See, I told you so" in it. But, again, he's got access. So whether he's a hack or not isn't really germane to the topic. I don't mean to pick bc a lot of people have similar reactions to an array of reporters and I wonder if it's driven by an over reliance on them for their opinions. Their access and information is invaluable though. Weeding through their pieces and determine what is information and what is opinion seems pretty important to keeping ourselves informed but not "swayed?" (couldn't think of a better term). I mostly just want to know whether a report of information by Haggs is useful to the board. If it's not, that's fine. |
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Post by cdj on Jul 21, 2021 9:54:36 GMT -5
Haggs is kinda a hack tho Just to go off topic a bit, largely as a piggy back off the Keith Law comments that some made in the draft related threads, what do we mean by stuff like this? Are we questioning their access? Their motives? Or the hockey knowledge? I disagree with a lot when it comes to Haggs but I still believe he has access and when it's clear that he's reporting information, I still find it valuable. Granted, I bang my head against a wall every time I read his takes about the 2015 Draft. Not that he's wrong but that it's tired and carries a lot of "See, I told you so" in it. But, again, he's got access. So whether he's a hack or not isn't really germane to the topic. I don't mean to pick bc a lot of people have similar reactions to an array of reporters and I wonder if it's driven by an over reliance on them for their opinions. Their access and information is invaluable though. Weeding through their pieces and determine what is information and what is opinion seems pretty important to keeping ourselves informed but not "swayed?" (couldn't think of a better term). I mostly just want to know whether a report of information by Haggs is useful to the board. If it's not, that's fine. For me I’ve questioned Haggs at various points about all 3 of those points. I don’t think he has much as far as access goes, he’s a really bad writer, I question his motives, and i question his knowledge of the game of hockey |
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 21, 2021 9:58:10 GMT -5
If the B's can sign a top 4 sturdy D like Suter and then get Garland for the third line I would be stoked!!
A third line of a healthy Coyle, a rebooted DeBrusk along with Garland could be a very dangerous line and I think it is quite possible at this stage. The B's really need to do all they can to maximize this window and it looks like they realize it and are doing so. Hopefully their are some vets like Suter who see this and want to get in on a cup run with Boston.
We are pretty fortunate to have as many guys as Boston has taking home town deals to play here. The whole top line is under paid and that filters down to the rest of the team and expectations.
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Post by cdj on Jul 21, 2021 10:05:04 GMT -5
A lot of stuff has come out about Suter and Parise that makes me hesitate about getting them
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 21, 2021 10:29:52 GMT -5
A lot of stuff has come out about Suter and Parise that makes me hesitate about getting them ?? |
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Post by bcsox on Jul 21, 2021 11:10:21 GMT -5
bad locker room guys is the rumor on Sutter and Parise. If it is manageabale Sutter is work a look on a two year deal in the neighborhood of 2/7 or 2/8 but I imagine they will get outbid.
Haggs is just brutal. Check out his twitter feed during the Islanders series. Bruins won the first game, and then said the series would be over quickly. Everybody knew differently. When it went against him, he just blamed the referee's the whole time, like a homer. He is a professional. It was really low level.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 21, 2021 11:14:05 GMT -5
bad locker room guys is the rumor on Sutter and Parise. If it is manageabale Sutter is work a look on a two year deal in the neighborhood of 2/7 or 2/8 but I imagine they will get outbid. Haggs is just brutal. Check out his twitter feed during the Islanders series. Bruins won the first game, and then said the series would be over quickly. Everybody knew differently. When it went against him, he just blamed the referee's the whole time, like a homer. He is a professional. It was really low level. But again, you're spending too much time on his opinions and not separating his information. Now, if as CDJ suggests, there are questions about his access (and, therefore, info) that's a separate concern and one that would make his reporting not as useful. |
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Post by texs31 on Jul 21, 2021 11:15:55 GMT -5
Seravalli reporting the the pick from Boston will be Lauzon. As suggested above, I feel like that's palatable (we were going to lose a good player) in the sense that any LHD on the current team was likely(hopefully) no better than a 3rd pair guy given most feel we need a surefire Top 4 LHD.
EDIT - Reading some of the discussion and I AM missing a big piece which is his time/impact on the PK.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 21, 2021 13:50:24 GMT -5
Seravalli reporting the the pick from Boston will be Lauzon. As suggested above, I feel like that's palatable (we were going to lose a good player) in the sense that any LHD on the current team was likely(hopefully) no better than a 3rd pair guy given most feel we need a surefire Top 4 LHD. EDIT - Reading some of the discussion and I AM missing a big piece which is his time/impact on the PK. Lauzon has a lot of potential. He hurts to lose. But I'd rather lose him than Clifton because we have maybe a two year window to chase a title and: 1. Clifton is better right now. Like, game 7 of the Cup finals, Lauzon/Clifton is your 3rd pair, you are going to be worried more that Lauzon is going to cough up a costly turnover. Even though Clifton is more of the puck-mover of the two, you worry about Lauzon's D more. 2. We actually have depth from the left side right now. We have Lauzon, Zboril, Vaakanainen, John Moore, Ahcan. We could probably resign Tinordi for nothing. On the right side we have Clifton and... Kampfer? We need to add depth from that side anyway. If Clifton got drafted, we'd have to replace him too. Losing Lauzon, we don't necessarily need to replace him in the lineup (though we need a top 4 Defenseman regardless). |
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Post by dangermike on Jul 21, 2021 13:51:33 GMT -5
it's very frustrating to lose lauzon after this year was supposed to be a "tryout" of sorts. we basically handed seattle a scouting report on our young, unprotectable defensemen, and now we aren't even sure if zboril/clifton/vaak are good enough to fill a hole or two throughout the season. all while not resigning chara last year - hes declining but we needed a warm body!!! we are going to be very good next year but its stupid stuff like this that keeps us on the outside looking in when the stanley cup gets passed around.
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Post by cdj on Jul 21, 2021 14:27:55 GMT -5
Sucks to lose Lauzon. PK will be impacted
Expansion stinks but is also so much fun
Hopefully we flip a deal with them to get an unprotected guy we like from another team or something
If Lauzon gets flipped to Montreal I will LOSE IT
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Post by tizzle on Jul 21, 2021 14:34:21 GMT -5
Sucks to lose Lauzon. PK will be impacted Expansion stinks but is also so much fun Hopefully we flip a deal with them to get an unprotected guy we like from another team or something If Lauzon gets flipped to Montreal I will LOSE IT It's a bummer if we don't take advantage of the expansion draft with any kind of deal. Though it should be noted that with the players they are taking and signing as FAs, it seems like Seattle's priority is to compete right now rather than build for the future, which makes it harder to work out the kind of deal I would have liked. |
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Post by cdj on Jul 21, 2021 14:35:33 GMT -5
Sucks to lose Lauzon. PK will be impacted Expansion stinks but is also so much fun Hopefully we flip a deal with them to get an unprotected guy we like from another team or something If Lauzon gets flipped to Montreal I will LOSE IT It's a bummer if we don't take advantage of the expansion draft with any kind of deal. Though it should be noted that with the players they are taking and signing as FAs, it seems like Seattle's priority is to compete right now rather than build for the future, which makes it harder to work out the kind of deal I would have liked. Seravili seems to think a Hall announcement is coming soon for 4/24 |
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Post by texs31 on Jul 21, 2021 14:38:16 GMT -5
Also sounds like the cost of doing business with Seattle is significant. Meanwhile, many are saying that some side deals HAVE been made given the strange selections that were made.
The other bad thing (pending whatever contracts are given out to the UFAs they picked/signed and whatever contracts they are adding in the side deals) is that Seattle looks to have plenty of cap room to work with when Free Agency starts. This, of course, will make it more challenging to fill the needs that we need to.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 21, 2021 14:38:43 GMT -5
It's a bummer if we don't take advantage of the expansion draft with any kind of deal. Though it should be noted that with the players they are taking and signing as FAs, it seems like Seattle's priority is to compete right now rather than build for the future, which makes it harder to work out the kind of deal I would have liked. Seravili seems to think a Hall announcement is coming soon for 4/24 Yes, that's being reported a few places. I was hoping the 5.5 per reports would be true, but still, the Hall news is more important than the Lauzon news and we should all be pretty happy about it. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 22, 2021 11:34:28 GMT -5
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 22, 2021 11:36:32 GMT -5
Or do they have some deals already in place but not announced that make it feasible to spend here? Scratching my head. |
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Post by texs31 on Jul 22, 2021 11:54:25 GMT -5
I'm now thinking Bs should resign Reilly for the 3rd Pair AND get a top 4 LHD.
EDIT- keep trying to think of the LHD version of JD that we could just swap them. Would even throw something in to get a BETTER version.
To offset some of the cost, again. put Studnika in the Top 9. Despite Smith's success with Hall and Krejci, almost wonder if you pot Stud on the 2nd line. Build a rapport with Hall. Maybe he can C him when Krejci moves on (assuming DK resigns to C that 2nd line).
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