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Post by bluechip on Jul 10, 2021 9:58:35 GMT -5
They’ve been very good (or lucky?) in one run games. I also think that with Barnes, Whitlock, Ottavino, Sawamura, Taylor, et al have gotten good production out of the pen. But yeah, the lineup could be more consistent and the starters need to be better if there will be a successful playoffs.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 10, 2021 10:35:52 GMT -5
Dalbec's low walk rate looks to me like it's because pitchers feel pretty good about throwing him fastballs in the strike zone.
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Post by benzinger on Jul 10, 2021 10:38:52 GMT -5
What did we do to deserve going from Heidi Watney to Jahmai Webster in only a few short years? She left a full decade ago lol Even Jenny Dell has been gone longer than a few years I miss Gary Mmmm...Jenny Dell. Forgot about her. Heidi is the best there ever was, though.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 10, 2021 10:58:20 GMT -5
What did we do to deserve going from Heidi Watney to Jahmai Webster in only a few short years? She left a full decade ago lol Even Jenny Dell has been gone longer than a few years I miss Gary I met Heidi once before a game when I was in the Yawkey Way store. She was in there and started chatting me up about some plaid Sox gear that I never would’ve looked twice at but she seemed to like. I suggested the Sox should go back to the cream colored home jerseys they used to have well before I was born (looked a bit like SF Giants) and she became really animated and started talking about how she LOVES that look. My gf at the time came around the corner and was not pleased. And that was pretty much the end of that.
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Post by benzinger on Jul 10, 2021 10:59:13 GMT -5
What is the purpose of Matt Andriese?
He is our inning eater.
Hoping we have Jack Leiter in that role come September. Lol.
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Post by nomar on Jul 10, 2021 11:31:48 GMT -5
She left a full decade ago lol Even Jenny Dell has been gone longer than a few years I miss Gary I met Heidi once before a game when I was in the Yawkey Way store. She was in there and started chatting me up about some plaid Sox gear that I never would’ve looked twice at but she seemed to like. I suggested the Sox should go back to the cream colored home jerseys they used to have well before I was born (looked a bit like SF Giants) and she became really animated and started talking about how she LOVES that look. My gf at the time came around the corner and was not pleased. And that was pretty much the end of that. That’s hilarious. It’s cool she wasn’t cocky. I live in CT and even the local media for UConn has some members that are so conceited/condescending it’s laughable. She left a full decade ago lol Even Jenny Dell has been gone longer than a few years I miss Gary Mmmm...Jenny Dell. Forgot about her. Heidi is the best there ever was, though. Bonk
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 10, 2021 11:40:39 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Jul 10, 2021 11:59:22 GMT -5
Praise the lord
Hopefully when he comes back it’s like April again
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 10, 2021 11:59:23 GMT -5
Not wishing for injury, but hopefully it explains his performance and that an IL stint corrects it. Either way, he's off the roster for now so it's win-win.
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Post by henry on Jul 10, 2021 12:49:42 GMT -5
Austin Brice up for Andriese. Has pitched very well since being sent down but further complicates the 40 man picture as sale and brazier come back as well as this winter. Interesting to see how things turn out and what success he can have at the MLB level.
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Post by cdj on Jul 10, 2021 12:57:11 GMT -5
Well that’s uninspiring
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Post by cdj on Jul 10, 2021 13:34:38 GMT -5
Hernandez 8 Verdugo 7 Martinez DH Bogaerts 6 Devers 5 Renfroe 9 Arroyo 4 Vazquez 2 Dalbec 3
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Post by jmei on Jul 10, 2021 13:40:52 GMT -5
I know positional adjustments aren’t what they used to be, but it still feels problematic that your first baseman is (rightfully) hitting ninth.
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Post by nomar on Jul 10, 2021 13:41:53 GMT -5
Instead of Brice can we just let the other team hit off a tee and use an extra outfielder?
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Post by vokuhila on Jul 10, 2021 14:10:35 GMT -5
Brice has 6 HBP in 15 IP in AAA...when do we play the yankees again?
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Post by benzinger on Jul 10, 2021 14:23:14 GMT -5
Hernandez 8 Verdugo 7 Martinez DH Bogaerts 6 Devers 5 Renfroe 9 Arroyo 4 Vazquez 2 Dalbec 3 The lineup just looks so much better without Marwin and Danny Santana in it.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 10, 2021 14:37:55 GMT -5
What’s the rationale for Brice over Valdez?
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 10, 2021 14:39:34 GMT -5
They’ve been very good (or lucky?) in one run games. I also think that with Barnes, Whitlock, Ottavino, Sawamura, Taylor, et al have gotten good production out of the pen. But yeah, the lineup could be more consistent and the starters need to be better if there will be a successful playoffs. They rule the world in hitting in high leverage (as b-Ref defines it). That's the element that's either good or lucky (whereas the relief contribution is largely skill). They have a 142 sOPS+, which is to say, as a team they've hit 42% better than the MLB average for hitting in high lev (which is itself 4% better than MLB average). The gap between them and the runner-up Mariners at 124 is the same as that between the Mariners and the #9 and 10 teams (Phillies and Tigers).
They lead MLB in hitting with 2 outs and RISP, and they are also 3rd (last time I checked, four or five days ago) in win value of inning / score clutch, where (say) a 2-out double with runners on 1st and 2nd actually counts negative if you do it in the ninth with an 8-run lead. The number measures the degree to which you create runs when it counts. I have the breakdown by players; I'll put that in the Sox Clutch thread. Arroyo has been the best, of course.
Dalbec's low walk rate looks to me like it's because pitchers feel pretty good about throwing him fastballs in the strike zone. Dalbec in the minors had streaks where he didn't walk at all and streaks where he walked a ton. He changes his approach (consciously or unconsciously) really often. That's a sufficient explanation. Austin Brice up for Andriese. Has pitched very well since being sent down but further complicates the 40 man picture as sale and brazier come back as well as this winter. Interesting to see how things turn out and what success he can have at the MLB level. Very interesting, as he and Workman are now competing for one roster spot even if they're willing to keep Rios in the minors along with Valdez (when Houck comes up after the ASB).
Meanwhile, if they can't re-diagnose Andriese to get him onto the 60-day IL, they need his roster spot for Sale and Brasier.
They have enough reliever depth that they could conceivably trade both Workman and Brice at the deadline.
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Post by soxinsf on Jul 10, 2021 15:06:53 GMT -5
It’s too early to give up on Workman. He looks to be getting back to top form, and we know how good that can be if he does get there. With Sale, Houck and Brasier looming on the horizon, Andriese and Brice both look surplus to needs at that point. But injuries, loss of form and other problems hit pitching staffs all the time. Workman could become very valuable going forward.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 10, 2021 15:16:02 GMT -5
Ump misses a strike 3 than segura hits a HR. Smdh
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 10, 2021 15:17:15 GMT -5
HP Ump -- 1 Red Sox -- 0
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 10, 2021 15:47:09 GMT -5
Hope Workman performs well in this possible trade showcase 🙂 Workman has been great. Really takes away a potential need.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 10, 2021 15:49:46 GMT -5
Perez needs to throw up some zeros because the Sox are gonna score some runs off Moore.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 10, 2021 16:19:55 GMT -5
Moore has less than nothing
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 10, 2021 16:20:28 GMT -5
Sox are 0/2 on barrels (Kine in the 1st, Verdugo), let alone hard hit balls.
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