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Post by geezergeek on Jul 21, 2021 10:35:12 GMT -5
Could Devlin Granberg or Joe Davis be the next Jeff Bagwell? Both were under the radar draft picks and both are excelling.
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Post by manfred on Jul 21, 2021 10:38:30 GMT -5
No pressure!
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 21, 2021 10:42:25 GMT -5
I'm gonna go with Tyler Miller.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 21, 2021 10:58:07 GMT -5
Could Devlin Granberg or Joe Davis be the next Jeff Bagwell? Both were under the radar draft picks and both are excelling. Not at all. They might surprise but I don't think Cooperstown will be preparing plaques for them. They might be more Morgan Burkhart or even Brian Daubach than Jeff Bagwell who was in the major leagues just before he turned 23, and rookie of the year at that age. |
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Post by carita on Jul 21, 2021 11:10:21 GMT -5
Calling it now. Joey Meneses is the next Pee Wee Reese.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 21, 2021 11:35:35 GMT -5
Bagwell was drafted at 21 and spent his first full season in AA at age 22, hitting .333/.422/.457. He was in MLB the next year.
Granberg is 25. Davis is 24. I like them and they'll probably both be in my top 60 next month but I don't see the comparison at all.
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Post by philarhody on Jul 21, 2021 11:58:08 GMT -5
Could Devlin Granberg or Joe Davis be the next Jeff Bagwell? Both were under the radar draft picks and both are excelling. No. |
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Post by incandenza on Jul 21, 2021 12:13:23 GMT -5
So what would be a good comparison to these two?
Here's Granberg's scouting summary:
And Joe Davis':
Do we have an example of a guy who had an "organizational player" tag through like age 24 who went on to be a successful major leaguer?
(Though "through age 24" may be an unfair comparison, due to the 2020 lacuna; maybe their stock would have risen earlier if they'd had a chance to play.)
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 21, 2021 15:42:46 GMT -5
My favorite guy to compare others to is Daniel Nava because it's the most unlikely path for anyone to reach 2.7 fWAR in a single season.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 21, 2021 15:59:29 GMT -5
So what would be a good comparison to these two?
Here's Granberg's scouting summary:
And Joe Davis':
Do we have an example of a guy who had an "organizational player" tag through like age 24 who went on to be a successful major leaguer?
(Though "through age 24" may be an unfair comparison, due to the 2020 lacuna; maybe their stock would have risen earlier if they'd had a chance to play.)
Brian Daubach made his mlb debut at 26 and hit .200 .294 .267 .561 in ten games for the Marlins. At age 27 he hit .294 .360 .562 .921 for the 1999 Red Sox Hit .259 .341 .476 .817 over 8 years. He's pretty much exactly what we need right now at 1b. www.banishedtothepen.com/brian-daubachs-long-and-winding-road-to-the-majors/www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=daubac001bri |
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 21, 2021 22:44:02 GMT -5
I opened this thread thinking it was going to be about Casas and thinking that it is an interesting comparison (there are lots of similarities in approach, unorthodox stances, how Casas's other skills might play up if/when he grows into his power, etc.) but obviously it would be unfair to expect any prospect to turn into Jeff Bagwell.
So with that in mind, it was a fun and unexpected swerve.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 21, 2021 23:36:27 GMT -5
Perhaps more importantly, the role of "next Keith Couch" STILL is very much open.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 22, 2021 0:10:05 GMT -5
Bagwell was drafted at 21 and spent his first full season in AA at age 22, hitting .333/.422/.457. He was in MLB the next year. Granberg is 25. Davis is 24. I like them and they'll probably both be in my top 60 next month but I don't see the comparison at all. Bagwell was drafted at 21...
Tyler Miller was drafted at 21...
I like where this is going.
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Post by costpet on Jul 22, 2021 7:44:27 GMT -5
Off topic a little: That pic of Marty Fellman reminds me of something I heard about him. It seems that he was born with normal eyes. Those weird eyes were a result of an operation he had for something I don't remember. But he came out of surgery with those eyes. As a comedian, he learned to use them well. He died young.
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Post by sdiaz1 on Jul 22, 2021 9:34:01 GMT -5
It is an exciting day to be a fan of the Red Sox farm system. I woke up and checked Sox Prospects and apparently two guys that I have honestly never heard of (Devlin Granberg & Wilkelman Gonzalez) are on the path of becoming Jeff Bagewll and Pedro Martinez.
Safe to say, I am pretty stoked and am planning my draft strategy for my dynasty league right now.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 22, 2021 11:49:42 GMT -5
A MassLive story of which I can read only the headline wonders whether any RedSox minor leaguer could be like Jared Walsh, a 39th round drat pick who hit .277 .359 .536 .895 at. A+/AA/AAA at age 24, at age 25 hit .325 .423 .686. 1.100 at AAA before coming up for a month to OPS .605, was great in mlb in 2020, and has been pretty great in 2021 at age 27.
So, could Granberg be the next Jared Walsh would be an ok question but the answer is probably "no."
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jul 22, 2021 12:10:05 GMT -5
I opened this thread thinking it was going to be about Casas and thinking that it is an interesting comparison (there are lots of similarities in approach, unorthodox stances, how Casas's other skills might play up if/when he grows into his power, etc.) but obviously it would be unfair to expect any prospect to turn into Jeff Bagwell.So with that in mind, it was a fun and unexpected swerve. That's what Lou Gorman thought, too.  |
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Post by trynegobble on Jul 22, 2021 13:13:43 GMT -5
Okay, well if we're doing non-judgmental wild comps, here's one for ya: Tyler Dearden -> Larry Walker
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