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Post by vokuhila on Aug 14, 2021 16:42:53 GMT -5
Raffy's next chance for a salami
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Post by jmei on Aug 14, 2021 16:45:37 GMT -5
Dalbec has a good arm but not great hands or range at 3B. Can still credibly back up that position, though. I’ve also always wanted him to add corner outfield. If he can play those positions and put up a ~100 wRC+, that’s a pretty good bench player. Bench player ? If the guys ends up hitting 25-30 home runs a year he won't be on the bench, at least most of the time. That’s not a guarantee if his walk and strikeout rates continue to stink. The offensive bar at 1B is high enough that if he hits, say, .230/.290/.470 (think Adam Duvall or Khris Davis or Gary Sanchez), he’ll be a below-average starter at 1B.
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Post by manfred on Aug 14, 2021 16:46:08 GMT -5
Dalbec may or may not end up being serviceable, but playing the “x player struggled and became a star” game is meaningless. I mean, it is basically this syllogism: X struggled his first year and is now a star. Dalbec is struggling. Ergo Dalbec will be a star. It isn’t just that he has struggled: it is that is struggles were actually recognizably within his range of outcomes. That is, if this is it, it wouldn’t be that surprising. If, say, Xander had never gotten better or if Franco doesn’t continue to get better, it’ll be shocking. Manfred all he is saying is don't give up on him completely and making some comparisons, not that he is going to be a star. So ergo that and stop extrapolating peoples words into something that isn't what was meant. My point isn’t that he said he’d be star. But when you write “stacks up pretty favorably,” it suggests a lesson is learned. My point is that given that you’ve chosen much better players (no, Dalbec will never be as good as Mookie, X, Devers etc. 0% chance), their early struggles are not instructive when we look at a guy who is probably more in the range of a Travis Shaw (which would be fine!).
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Post by jmei on Aug 14, 2021 16:46:47 GMT -5
Nice piece of hitting from Devers there. His plate coverage is impressive.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 14, 2021 16:47:24 GMT -5
Top 4 in the order: 9-9, HBP, BB, 6 RBI, 7 R
Not bad.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 14, 2021 16:47:54 GMT -5
Bench player ? If the guys ends up hitting 25-30 home runs a year he won't be on the bench, at least most of the time. That’s not a guarantee if his walk and strikeout rates continue to stink. The offensive bar at 1B is high enough that if he hits, say, .230/.290/.470 (think Adam Duvall or Khris Davis or Gary Sanchez), he’ll be a below-average starter at 1B. For sure. The ability to make contact (get on base) will go a long way in deciding his future.
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Post by manfred on Aug 14, 2021 16:48:15 GMT -5
AWD. Even bases loaded.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 14, 2021 16:49:02 GMT -5
Well, that was slightly deflating.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 14, 2021 16:50:08 GMT -5
Manfred all he is saying is don't give up on him completely and making some comparisons, not that he is going to be a star. So ergo that and stop extrapolating peoples words into something that isn't what was meant. My point isn’t that he said he’d be star. But when you write “stacks up pretty favorably,” it suggests a lesson is learned. My point is that given that you’ve chosen much better players (no, Dalbec will never be as good as Mookie, X, Devers etc. 0% chance), their early struggles are not instructive when we look at a guy who is probably more in the range of a Travis Shaw (which would be fine!). I did post my own response to the comment above... Even mentioned Travis Shaw!
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 14, 2021 16:53:22 GMT -5
A tale of two halves of the batting order!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 14, 2021 16:55:15 GMT -5
Hopefully this is Sale's last batter.
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Post by vokuhila on Aug 14, 2021 16:56:10 GMT -5
Gunter Renfroe again!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 14, 2021 16:56:10 GMT -5
Come on Chris !! finish this up !! Want it very badly for him.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 14, 2021 16:56:27 GMT -5
The arm of Renfro!
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Post by manfred on Aug 14, 2021 16:58:02 GMT -5
Two Commandments: 1) thou shalt always walk Devers 2) thou shalt not run on Renfroe.
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Post by vokuhila on Aug 14, 2021 17:01:36 GMT -5
Man I'm happy
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Post by Guidas on Aug 14, 2021 17:02:49 GMT -5
Good start.
Hopefully he’s been too busy with rehab to have seen tge pen.
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Post by shagworthy on Aug 14, 2021 17:02:58 GMT -5
That was nice to see, and a pretty decent start even if it's against a lesser opponent.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 14, 2021 17:04:07 GMT -5
Don't really care the opponent....Don't care if it was pretty. So happy for Chris after all the rehab and stuff.
One of my favorite non-drafted Sox guys, at the top of my list because of the way he goes about being a pro.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 14, 2021 17:07:46 GMT -5
nvm...thought it was a home run. Dang Game day !! LOL
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Post by manfred on Aug 14, 2021 17:08:03 GMT -5
Duran has a nice swing. If he gets guys to bring it down a bit, he’ll rake. Just don’t chase.
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Post by shagworthy on Aug 14, 2021 17:08:35 GMT -5
Ok, I hate the Yankees as much as any Red Sox fan, but can someone please explain to me why people feel the need to chant "Yankees Suck" when they are playing the Orioles?
Also, man that's what I want to see from Duran.
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Post by jmei on Aug 14, 2021 17:09:19 GMT -5
BOBBY BOMBS
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Post by manfred on Aug 14, 2021 17:10:03 GMT -5
Ok, I hate the Yankees as much as any Red Sox fan, but can someone please explain to me why people feel the need to chant "Yankees Suck" when they are playing the Orioles? Also, man that's what I want to see from Duran. Cause “Orioles suck” is self-evident?
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Post by cheers on Aug 14, 2021 17:10:35 GMT -5
Wow, do I love the Orioles. A 26 man cure-all.
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