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Post by cdj on Aug 18, 2021 20:40:36 GMT -5
Yeah they added the best hitter moved at the deadline, they added the best pitcher a week after the deadline, and they’re a bunch of grown ass professionals that understand that For the love of god GET OVER IT, its sports radio BS that has no basis in reality I don't listen to sports radio. I have eyes. I've been watching sports for many decades. There IS an emotional/mental aspect to the game, even if you refuse to see it/admit it. They are human. Yeah I mean they couldn’t possibly just be playing bad baseball, everybody is caught in their fee fee’s because they only got the best hitter moved at the deadline. Great point guys, carry on
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Post by malynn19 on Aug 18, 2021 20:40:51 GMT -5
I just read Xander say how happy and motivated they were getting Schwarber and Sale. And that no team got better than they did. But that was last week before playing Baltimore. SO I guess you would know what's going in the clubhouse with all the smoke and mirrors, I mean optics and perception. Because someone on the team is going to say, "should have done more"? Them getting Sale back is not an acquisition. The Yankees are getting back Severino and Kluber. Severino is done for the year. And Kubler is no Sale.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Aug 18, 2021 20:41:31 GMT -5
Blown away with a blazing 92
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 18, 2021 20:42:23 GMT -5
Yeah they added the best hitter moved at the deadline, they added the best pitcher a week after the deadline, and they’re a bunch of grown ass professionals that understand that For the love of god GET OVER IT, its sports radio BS that has no basis in reality I don't listen to sports radio. I have eyes. I've been watching sports for many decades. There IS an emotional/mental aspect to the game, even if you refuse to see it/admit it. They are human.
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Post by cdj on Aug 18, 2021 20:42:24 GMT -5
They’re really gonna let this guy go 7 strong
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 18, 2021 20:42:38 GMT -5
I don't listen to sports radio. I have eyes. I've been watching sports for many decades. There IS an emotional/mental aspect to the game, even if you refuse to see it/admit it. They are human. Yeah I mean they couldn’t possibly just be playing bad baseball, everybody is caught in their fee fee’s because they only got the best hitter moved at the deadline. Great point guys, carry on let's just agree to disagree and move on. it is clear we are not going to change each other's minds, and that's fine. it's a free country.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 18, 2021 20:43:42 GMT -5
Yeah they added the best hitter moved at the deadline, they added the best pitcher a week after the deadline, and they’re a bunch of grown ass professionals that understand that For the love of god GET OVER IT, its sports radio BS that has no basis in reality I don't listen to sports radio. I have eyes. I've been watching sports for many decades. There IS an emotional/mental aspect to the game, even if you refuse to see it/admit it. They are human. More from The globe here. www.bostonglobe.com/2021/08/09/sports/closer-look-red-sox-slide-whats-causing-it-just-how-bad-is-it/July 6th is before the trade deadline. So I guess you are saying the players knew that bloom would do nothing by 7/31
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Post by cutz on Aug 18, 2021 20:44:02 GMT -5
And the EMBARRASMENT continues as Heaney comes out for the 7th inning?
The Angels, I mean the ANGELS ! got rid of Heaney !! An Angels team that desperately NEEDS pitching!!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 18, 2021 20:44:42 GMT -5
Because someone on the team is going to say, "should have done more"? Them getting Sale back is not an acquisition. The Yankees are getting back Severino and Kluber. Severino is done for the year. And Kubler is no Sale. Has there been word on that? This would be the first I've heard of it. Though I guess getting pushed back is not great news. Even still, getting Sale back is fine and dandy, but it's not really adding to the team. You were expecting him back. Kluber isn't Sale, but he's an upgrade over Heaney (when not looking like Randy Johnson against the Red Sox).
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 18, 2021 20:45:14 GMT -5
Make room on the trophy for.... Cy Heaney!
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Post by cdj on Aug 18, 2021 20:45:19 GMT -5
Yeah I mean they couldn’t possibly just be playing bad baseball, everybody is caught in their fee fee’s because they only got the best hitter moved at the deadline. Great point guys, carry on let's just agree to disagree and move on. it is clear we are not going to change each other's minds, and that's fine. it's a free country. There’s nothing I’d love more than to not talk about the trade deadline in the millionth straight GDT Especially when their depression apparently comes and goes depending on the series
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Post by foreverred9 on Aug 18, 2021 20:46:44 GMT -5
Yeah they added the best hitter moved at the deadline, they added the best pitcher a week after the deadline, and they’re a bunch of grown ass professionals that understand that For the love of god GET OVER IT, its sports radio BS that has no basis in reality I don't listen to sports radio. I have eyes. I've been watching sports for many decades. There IS an emotional/mental aspect to the game, even if you refuse to see it/admit it. They are human. I don't think anyone is arguing that their emotional and mental aspects of the game have significantly degraded, that's obvious. Tying it to this one specific event is what folks are struggling with rationalizing. And quite frankly if this team really did react this poorly to the trade deadline then they would have cratered under the pressure of the playoffs. But let's just keep ignoring that they were hanging by a thread for weeks prior to the trade deadline and were already in the collapse by the time the deadline happened. Adding a player or two also doesn't turn this 8-14 stretch into a 14-8 stretch.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 18, 2021 20:52:32 GMT -5
I don't listen to sports radio. I have eyes. I've been watching sports for many decades. There IS an emotional/mental aspect to the game, even if you refuse to see it/admit it. They are human. I don't think anyone is arguing that their emotional and mental aspects of the game have significantly degraded, that's obvious. Tying it to this one specific event is what folks are struggling with rationalizing. And quite frankly if this team really did react this poorly to the trade deadline then they would have cratered under the pressure of the playoffs. But let's just keep ignoring that they were hanging by a thread for weeks prior to the trade deadline and were already in the collapse by the time the deadline happened. Adding a player or two also doesn't turn this 8-14 stretch into a 14-8 stretch. 11-11 would be a major difference right now. I don't think it's coincidental that the team that hadn't lost 4 or more games in a row all year just turned into complete ass after the deadline. Truthfully, they did start showing some warts before then, but at the time people were attributing it to tiredness and the break coming up. I don't think anyone is saying, "that's the only reason". I think it's cumulative of a lot of different things, but I believe this team was a bit defeated by the lack of acquisitions and then things just kind of spiraled out of control.
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Aug 18, 2021 20:52:39 GMT -5
I get Rizzo has helped them in his first 6 games, but I have a feeling Voit will be the starter come late September.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Aug 18, 2021 20:54:16 GMT -5
I don't listen to sports radio. I have eyes. I've been watching sports for many decades. There IS an emotional/mental aspect to the game, even if you refuse to see it/admit it. They are human. I don't think anyone is arguing that their emotional and mental aspects of the game have significantly degraded, that's obvious. Tying it to this one specific event is what folks are struggling with rationalizing. And quite frankly if this team really did react this poorly to the trade deadline then they would have cratered under the pressure of the playoffs. But let's just keep ignoring that they were hanging by a thread for weeks prior to the trade deadline and were already in the collapse by the time the deadline happened. Adding a player or two also doesn't turn this 8-14 stretch into a 14-8 stretch. So if they were hanging by a thread and ready to collapse anyways why didn't they sell? Honestly it would have had a similar effect on this team and Nate and Erod would have brought back some solid prospects. Just saying it was clearly a better option at this point IF the front office didn't believe in them which they didn't.
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Post by cdj on Aug 18, 2021 20:56:26 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is arguing that their emotional and mental aspects of the game have significantly degraded, that's obvious. Tying it to this one specific event is what folks are struggling with rationalizing. And quite frankly if this team really did react this poorly to the trade deadline then they would have cratered under the pressure of the playoffs. But let's just keep ignoring that they were hanging by a thread for weeks prior to the trade deadline and were already in the collapse by the time the deadline happened. Adding a player or two also doesn't turn this 8-14 stretch into a 14-8 stretch. So if they were hanging by a thread and ready to collapse anyways why didn't they sell? Honestly it would have had a similar effect on this team and Nate and Erod would have brought back some solid prospects. Just saying it was clearly a better option at this point IF the front office didn't believe in them which they didn't. So are you asking why a team in a playoff spot in this market didn’t sell? Yeah I’m sure that would have gone over great Also why is the same ludicrous stuff being rehashed over and over again?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 18, 2021 20:56:46 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is arguing that their emotional and mental aspects of the game have significantly degraded, that's obvious. Tying it to this one specific event is what folks are struggling with rationalizing. And quite frankly if this team really did react this poorly to the trade deadline then they would have cratered under the pressure of the playoffs. But let's just keep ignoring that they were hanging by a thread for weeks prior to the trade deadline and were already in the collapse by the time the deadline happened. Adding a player or two also doesn't turn this 8-14 stretch into a 14-8 stretch. So if they were hanging by a thread and ready to collapse anyways why didn't they sell? Honestly it would have had a similar effect on this team and Nate and Erod would have brought back some solid prospects. Just saying it was clearly a better option at this point IF the front office didn't believe in them which they didn't. I got crushed in 2019 for suggesting a fire sale when they were out of the 2nd Wild Card by 3 or 4 games. Good luck with saying a team with the best record in the AL should have sold, but I agree with the point. Either believe in your team or get assets for them. Standing still really doesn't move the needle. (I was on team buy).
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 18, 2021 20:57:17 GMT -5
Last thing I will say on this - promise. Record from second half start up to the deadline was 8-5 including wins over the MFY and Toronto. Record after the dealine is 6 - 13 (if we end up losing this game). Three of those wins were the Os. Yes, July 6-11, just before the break, was rough - 1-4, and the team looked gassed. But they came back and played well just after the break.
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Post by manfred on Aug 18, 2021 21:01:16 GMT -5
I’m going to look on the brightside: I picked them to win 86, thought I was way under for a while there, and now feel like there is a shot!
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Post by cdj on Aug 18, 2021 21:02:18 GMT -5
Boone is PLEADING for us to get back in this game
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Aug 18, 2021 21:02:27 GMT -5
Despite all of the disappointment, I still think the Sox will get into the post-season. It will be quite a race down the wire for the WC spots. We are going through a bad stretch right now. But all of our competitors are flawed. Why not us?
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Post by theaveragefan88 on Aug 18, 2021 21:03:37 GMT -5
The Bloom apologists got real quiet the last couple of days.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Aug 18, 2021 21:04:47 GMT -5
So if they were hanging by a thread and ready to collapse anyways why didn't they sell? Honestly it would have had a similar effect on this team and Nate and Erod would have brought back some solid prospects. Just saying it was clearly a better option at this point IF the front office didn't believe in them which they didn't. I got crushed in 2019 for suggesting a fire sale when they were out of the 2nd Wild Card by 3 or 4 games. Good luck with saying a team with the best record in the AL should have sold, but I agree with the point. Either believe in your team or get assets for them. Standing still really doesn't move the needle. (I was on team buy). This is where I'm at. Its better than doing what they did. People keep mentioning Schwarber but this team isn't playing him...maybe they thought he could play 1st and he hasn't been able to get the position down? Or maybe hes still hurt? Whatever the reason...
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Post by jmei on Aug 18, 2021 21:07:47 GMT -5
It’s the repetitiveness of the trade deadline discussion that really gets my goat. If you’ve even been lightly reading the forum, you know where all the usual suspects stand on the issue. What is the point of getting into the same tired arguments every time they are losing a game? Is that enjoyable for any of you? It certainly doesn’t seem fun to me. Remember, some folks use the gameday thread just to vent, and that’s OK (even if it personally drives me crazy). You don’t have to respond to everyone you disagree with. And that’s my yelling into the void for the day.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Aug 18, 2021 21:08:41 GMT -5
The Bloom apologists got real quiet the last couple of days. You do remember that this is a bridge year right? And there is still a month and a half left with us being right there for the wild card
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