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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 21, 2021 14:18:02 GMT -5
If I'm reading you correctly: 1) We can look at SSS splits in JD's batting line to determine that he's a worse hitter as a fielder than a DH, but we should dismiss the SSS fielding stats that say he's been a good left fielder. 2) Going 2-5 with a walk (.400/.500/.400) against the Yankees was a bad performance. 3) Getting on base by HBP doesn't count, and Dalbec's 122 wRC+ performance in yesterday's game was actually bad. 4) Dalbec gets no credit for moving a runner over and contributing to a run, but also Schwarber gets no credit for getting hits that didn't contribute to a run. 5) Dalbec is likely to regress toward a worse performance even though his xwOBA is still above his wOBA.
Like I said in my first post, he should just come out and tell us he enjoys being miserable. Can’t even give a guy any credit when he does positive things last night. Has to complain about having a guy who gets on base every at bat in a shutout being in the lineup at DH. We should all be miserable that we have a guy in the lineup who has almost hit .500 since getting here because he’s DHing. He didn’t single handedly win any games yet so it’s not worth it Woo-hoo! The Red Sox NAILED that Schwarber trade. Those 5 games (3 against the Orioles and Rangers) in the month he has been here has really helped steer the ship back in the right direction! Nailed it! I get it. Schwarber was the greatest acquisition of all time and has helped save the Red Sox from collapse. That's what happened. Without Schwarber, the Red Sox had no hope in those games against the Orioles and Rangers and it's a good thing they pushed gold glover JD Martinez off of DH and back into the OF. No idea what the Red Sox were thinking there. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 14:20:48 GMT -5
Like I said in my first post, he should just come out and tell us he enjoys being miserable. Can’t even give a guy any credit when he does positive things last night. Has to complain about having a guy who gets on base every at bat in a shutout being in the lineup at DH. We should all be miserable that we have a guy in the lineup who has almost hit .500 since getting here because he’s DHing. He didn’t single handedly win any games yet so it’s not worth it Woo-hoo! The Red Sox NAILED that Schwarber trade. Those 5 games (3 against the Orioles and Rangers) in the month he has been here has really helped steer the ship back in the right direction! Nailed it! I get it. Schwarber was the greatest acquisition of all time and has helped save the Red Sox from collapse. That's what happened. Without Schwarber, the Red Sox had no hope in those games against the Orioles and Rangers and it's a good thing they pushed gold glover JD Martinez off of DH and back into the OF. No idea what the Red Sox were thinking there. Nobody is saying those things, I’m merely pointing out how pathetic you’re acting after a 6-0 win in which he got on in all 4 AB’s and judging by the amount of people who agreed with my post I’d say I’m not alone. Cry more about the deadline, you physically can’t It’s a good addition and he is a positive impact in the lineup, fact not opinion. Tootles now. Carry on being miserable in every GDT thread about the deadline, you’re not rubbing everybody the wrong way at all…. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 21, 2021 14:29:14 GMT -5
Yankees get praised for bringing in Rizzo. Even though 1- the already addressed LH power in Gallo 2- they gave up a significant amount in the trade 3- they didn’t fill there weakest position that is SS 4- arguably ( I’d say not/ defiantly) he is there 2nd best 1B (3rd if u count DJ) 5- forcing DH Stanton into the outfield and occasionally judge to CF 1 - Gallo is a gold glove OFer and neither he nor Rizzo came with an injury concern. Rizzo was a concern due to vaccination, but is already back after getting covid. 2 - If the Yankees still missed the playoffs after unloading prospects then they would have been fairly critiqued. This was also a team many had being much better than what they were at the beginning of the year and they lost a number of games to sloppy mismanagement. 3 - Gleyber Torres is still 24 and has at least an 0.8 WAR despite the horrible bat and missing time since August 8th with an injury. Their position of need is still a net positive. Dalbec, despite the hot streak is -0.8. I would also say that the team has no reason to ever trust Voit's health either. 4 - I've seen Rizzo play some quality defense there. Even still, I wouldn't argue that point, but he plays it competently. He'd be better than Dalbec on the bag. 5 - This is a problem, but it'll likely work itself out once Stanton gets inevitably hurt. I'm sure Yankees fans don't care too much for Stanton and is the after thought to Rizzo, Gallo and Judge |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 21, 2021 14:31:14 GMT -5
Woo-hoo! The Red Sox NAILED that Schwarber trade. Those 5 games (3 against the Orioles and Rangers) in the month he has been here has really helped steer the ship back in the right direction! Nailed it! I get it. Schwarber was the greatest acquisition of all time and has helped save the Red Sox from collapse. That's what happened. Without Schwarber, the Red Sox had no hope in those games against the Orioles and Rangers and it's a good thing they pushed gold glover JD Martinez off of DH and back into the OF. No idea what the Red Sox were thinking there. Nobody is saying those things, I’m merely pointing out how pathetic you’re acting after a 6-0 win in which he got on in all 4 AB’s and judging by the amount of people who agreed with my post I’d say I’m not alone. Cry more about the deadline, you physically can’t It’s a good addition and he is a positive impact in the lineup, fact not opinion. Tootles now. Carry on being miserable in every GDT thread about the deadline, you’re not rubbing everybody the wrong way at all…. It's pathetic you're acting like his acquisition has been a major bolster to this club. He played 5 games in a month and is splitting time at DH. Yes, the Red Sox did everything right. Big time deadline winners. Couldn't have gone any better. |
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Post by patford on Aug 21, 2021 14:33:35 GMT -5
I was no particular fan of the Robles trade, but he hasn't been that bad - lots of walks, but also lots of Ks, and he's been unlucky with BABIP. Hasn't given up a homer. As a back end of the bullpen guy, he's basically inconsequential, which is what WAR and WPA both say.
Austin Davis, meanwhile, has... been pretty good, aside from his getting burned by a .500 BABIP? I'm increasingly intrigued by him.
Davis actually looks better than Taylor to me. He could be a good pick up. Davis is intriguing. He's too good for AAA and hasn't cut it in MLB. He moved quickly through the minors without a hiccup. His ERA consistently under 3.00. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 14:45:45 GMT -5
Nobody is saying those things, I’m merely pointing out how pathetic you’re acting after a 6-0 win in which he got on in all 4 AB’s and judging by the amount of people who agreed with my post I’d say I’m not alone. Cry more about the deadline, you physically can’t It’s a good addition and he is a positive impact in the lineup, fact not opinion. Tootles now. Carry on being miserable in every GDT thread about the deadline, you’re not rubbing everybody the wrong way at all…. It's pathetic you're acting like his acquisition has been a major bolster to this club. He played 5 games in a month and is splitting time at DH. Yes, the Red Sox did everything right. Big time deadline winners. Couldn't have gone any better. They acquired a cleanup hitter who has done nothing but mash yet I am the pathetic one because I’m not crying about him in every gdt as he mashes when they win 6-0. Got it. .462/.611/.692 but since he didn’t single handedly win any Yankees game he hasn’t been a positive impact. Sweet. Also Keep putting words in my mouth if you must. But first Check the ratio of people who agreed with me that you’re being tiresome at this point. Ok now, have a great day! |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2021 15:31:35 GMT -5
As up 3-0, MFY and Rays win. Must win tonight to not lose ground.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 21, 2021 15:35:47 GMT -5
It's pathetic you're acting like his acquisition has been a major bolster to this club. He played 5 games in a month and is splitting time at DH. Yes, the Red Sox did everything right. Big time deadline winners. Couldn't have gone any better. They acquired a cleanup hitter who has done nothing but mash yet I am the pathetic one because I’m not crying about him in every gdt as he mashes when they win 6-0. Got it. .462/.611/.692 but since he didn’t single handedly win any Yankees game he hasn’t been a positive impact. Sweet. Also Keep putting words in my mouth if you must. But first Check the ratio of people who agreed with me that you’re being tiresome at this point. Ok now, have a great day! 5 games in a month, 3 against teams trying to lose. Playing one guy out of position and keeps the negative WAR player in the lineup. Great acquisition. You've been putting words in my mouth as well this entire time. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 21, 2021 15:43:27 GMT -5
They acquired a cleanup hitter who has done nothing but mash yet I am the pathetic one because I’m not crying about him in every gdt as he mashes when they win 6-0. Got it. .462/.611/.692 but since he didn’t single handedly win any Yankees game he hasn’t been a positive impact. Sweet. Also Keep putting words in my mouth if you must. But first Check the ratio of people who agreed with me that you’re being tiresome at this point. Ok now, have a great day! 5 games in a month, 3 against teams trying to lose. Playing one guy out of position and keeps the negative WAR player in the lineup. Great acquisition. You've been putting words in my mouth as well this entire time. A month? It's been just over three weeks and there was the pre-existing knowledge that it'd take some time to recover from his injury. I think your entire argument to this point has been bad, but that's just an obvious stretch. |
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Post by soxjim on Aug 21, 2021 15:55:09 GMT -5
They acquired a cleanup hitter who has done nothing but mash yet I am the pathetic one because I’m not crying about him in every gdt as he mashes when they win 6-0. Got it. .462/.611/.692 but since he didn’t single handedly win any Yankees game he hasn’t been a positive impact. Sweet. Also Keep putting words in my mouth if you must. But first Check the ratio of people who agreed with me that you’re being tiresome at this point. Ok now, have a great day! Appreciate all your posts (and jimoh's) on this thread. You've answered everything and nailed everything with facts and class. I enjoy reading yours and jimoh's posts. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 16:27:27 GMT -5
They acquired a cleanup hitter who has done nothing but mash yet I am the pathetic one because I’m not crying about him in every gdt as he mashes when they win 6-0. Got it. .462/.611/.692 but since he didn’t single handedly win any Yankees game he hasn’t been a positive impact. Sweet. Also Keep putting words in my mouth if you must. But first Check the ratio of people who agreed with me that you’re being tiresome at this point. Ok now, have a great day! Appreciate all your posts (and jimoh's) on this thread. You've answered everything and nailed everything with facts and class. I enjoy reading yours and jimoh's posts. I appreciate your kind words Hernandez 4 Devers 5 Bogaerts 6 Schwarber DH Martinez 7 Verdugo 8 Renfroe 9 Vazquez 2 Dalbec 3 |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 21, 2021 16:28:43 GMT -5
5 games in a month, 3 against teams trying to lose. Playing one guy out of position and keeps the negative WAR player in the lineup. Great acquisition. You've been putting words in my mouth as well this entire time. A month? It's been just over three weeks and there was the pre-existing knowledge that it'd take some time to recover from his injury. I think your entire argument to this point has been bad, but that's just an obvious stretch. They acquired him knowing he was hurt. He was acquired on July 29th. It is August 21st. He has played 5 games for the Red Sox. What is factually incorrect about this statement? Meanwhile the team has spiraled down the drains. So, great. He has helped them in blowout wins in 3 games against horrendous teams that are under .500 and played 2 out of 3 games against their direct competition and lost all 3 of those games. Was it his fault? No. His acquisition has been a net zero SO FAR. So, cool, because they knew he'd take time to recover makes it a better trade? I'm really confused at the counter argument. I guess I'm just making stuff up and this team has been immensely better since he joined the team on July 29th. Having Dalbec still on 1B and JDM in the OF was part of the plan. Lol at the class on CDJ's comments. They have been anything but. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 16:40:21 GMT -5
Could have sworn this with a GDT against the rangers where they won game 1 6-0 with a great performance from their 2 post deadline adds and not a “redsoxfan2 incessantly cry about the TDL” thread. Could I perhaps just be illiterate?
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 21, 2021 16:44:05 GMT -5
This thread is a tire fire
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 16:47:41 GMT -5
Davis actually looks better than Taylor to me. He could be a good pick up. Davis is intriguing. He's too good for AAA and hasn't cut it in MLB. He moved quickly through the minors without a hiccup. His ERA consistently under 3.00. I liked the Chavis-Davis (fun to say) trade as much as I disliked the Robles one. The fact he has options is a beautiful thing and it gives us a lefty reliever at the top of our org depth where we desperately needed one. And we don’t have to be infuriated by Chavis anymore. Best wishes to him though, I hope he mashes |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 21, 2021 17:28:32 GMT -5
Could have sworn this with a GDT against the rangers where they won game 1 6-0 with a great performance from their 2 post deadline adds and not a “redsoxfan2 incessantly cry about the TDL” thread. Could I perhaps just be illiterate? Lol yes, go Red Sox. You beat the 42-80 Rangers. All is right in the world. Heaven forbid someone isn't thrilled with how fast this team tanked and isn't all that impressed with the outcome against a team who is literally trying to lose. You say I'm crying, but could your feelings be any more hurt that someone has a dissenting view of the team and the acquisition and how it hasn't helped the team to date (a month later) and is hurting other parts of the roster? |
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 21, 2021 17:37:37 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 18:10:00 GMT -5
I can’t get over this Rangers lineup
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 18:15:30 GMT -5
Isiah Kiner-Falefa is a damn useful player
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Post by patford on Aug 21, 2021 18:23:51 GMT -5
Does anyone have the numbers for Rizzo and Dalbec since Rizzo signed with the Yankees? I suspect Dalbec has the better numbers so subbing Rizzo for Dalbec would have done what?
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 18:26:56 GMT -5
Pitchers duel!!!!
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Post by station13 on Aug 21, 2021 18:29:02 GMT -5
Why does E-Rod never cover 1B?
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 18:30:55 GMT -5
Does this guy really go by Nathaniel?
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Post by cdj on Aug 21, 2021 18:32:43 GMT -5
Sheeesh that’s a wild backstory for Pozo
This is a gross inning thus far
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 21, 2021 18:37:24 GMT -5
Every single team gets awful results shifting vs RHB. No idea what they're doing.
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