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Post by FenwayFanatic on Mar 25, 2022 6:05:58 GMT -5
How does San Diego get a competitive balance pick? Just because they’ve historically been a crappy team other than the one year they went to the World Series and got swept by the Yanks?
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Post by stevedillard on Mar 25, 2022 8:06:54 GMT -5
Jud Fabian seems to be coming around, with 10 dingers and far fewer Ks. He has yet to hit the meat of the SEC, though.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 25, 2022 8:27:13 GMT -5
How does San Diego get a competitive balance pick? Just because they’ve historically been a crappy team other than the one year they went to the World Series and got swept by the Yanks? No, competitive balance picks are given to the 10 lowest-revenue teams and the 10 smallest market teams. It doesn't have to do with record. |
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Post by mobaz on Mar 25, 2022 11:17:18 GMT -5
How does San Diego get a competitive balance pick? Just because they’ve historically been a crappy team other than the one year they went to the World Series and got swept by the Yanks? No, competitive balance picks are given to the 10 lowest-revenue teams and the 10 smallest market teams. It doesn't have to do with record. San Diego County is the 5th biggest in the country, with 3.2m people. If locals don't want to see your s##tty baseball team because it's too pretty outside shouldn't mean you get free stuff. Live with it or move the team, like the Chargers did. Same with Oakland. Fix your stadium sewage leak and pay your players and you might be able to pull in fans from the 8 million people in the bay area. |
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Post by jaffinator on Mar 25, 2022 13:11:14 GMT -5
No, competitive balance picks are given to the 10 lowest-revenue teams and the 10 smallest market teams. It doesn't have to do with record. San Diego County is the 5th biggest in the country, with 3.2m people. If locals don't want to see your s##tty baseball team because it's too pretty outside shouldn't mean you get free stuff. Live with it or move the team, like the Chargers did. Same with Oakland. Fix your stadium sewage leak and pay your players and you might be able to pull in fans from the 8 million people in the bay area. I mean so it's not solely determined by this, but a major factor in this is size of the TV market. San Diego, despite being a populous county (also, important to note that CA tends to have geographically larger counties than people might be used to on the east coast - for example all of LA is one county) is not a very large TV market relatively speaking. This is partially because they get screwed geographically, with LA to the north and the Mexican border to the south. |
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Post by Guidas on Mar 25, 2022 13:30:48 GMT -5
San Diego County is the 5th biggest in the country, with 3.2m people. If locals don't want to see your s##tty baseball team because it's too pretty outside shouldn't mean you get free stuff. Live with it or move the team, like the Chargers did. Same with Oakland. Fix your stadium sewage leak and pay your players and you might be able to pull in fans from the 8 million people in the bay area. I mean so it's not solely determined by this, but a major factor in this is size of the TV market. San Diego, despite being a populous county (also, important to note that CA tends to have geographically larger counties than people might be used to on the east coast - for example all of LA is one county) is not a very large TV market relatively speaking. This is partially because they get screwed geographically, with LA to the north and the Mexican border to the south. I wonder if this gets adjusted (or leveled off) with streaming simultaneously democratizing and further stratifying markets? |
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Post by Guidas on Mar 25, 2022 13:33:01 GMT -5
San Diego County is the 5th biggest in the country, with 3.2m people. If locals don't want to see your s##tty baseball team because it's too pretty outside shouldn't mean you get free stuff. Live with it or move the team, like the Chargers did. Same with Oakland. Fix your stadium sewage leak and pay your players and you might be able to pull in fans from the 8 million people in the bay area. I mean so it's not solely determined by this, but a major factor in this is size of the TV market. San Diego, despite being a populous county (also, important to note that CA tends to have geographically larger counties than people might be used to on the east coast - for example all of LA is one county) is not a very large TV market relatively speaking. This is partially because they get screwed geographically, with LA to the north and the Mexican border to the south. This seems to make Cleveland and Minneapolis-St. Paul as top 20 markets, and Tampa and Phoenix as Top 15. www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets |
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Post by jaffinator on Mar 25, 2022 14:27:25 GMT -5
I mean so it's not solely determined by this, but a major factor in this is size of the TV market. San Diego, despite being a populous county (also, important to note that CA tends to have geographically larger counties than people might be used to on the east coast - for example all of LA is one county) is not a very large TV market relatively speaking. This is partially because they get screwed geographically, with LA to the north and the Mexican border to the south. This seems to make Cleveland and Minneapolis-St. Paul as top 20 markets, and Tampa and Phoenix as Top 15. www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-marketsYeah that's why I said it's not solely determined by it. There are some teams in big TV markets with lower local interest and I assume that affects what the MLB thinks of as "market size." I don't know the MLB economics super well, so if someone wants to correct me that would be great, but my understanding is that the greatest single factor that differentiates team revenue is local TV contract numbers. Presumably, the amount the contract is hypothetically worth depends on something vaguely approximate to the size of the media market times the level of interest in the team within the market? |
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Post by TearsIn04 on Mar 25, 2022 14:46:18 GMT -5
Yeah that's why I said it's not solely determined by it. There are some teams in big TV markets with lower local interest and I assume that affects what the MLB thinks of as "market size." I don't know the MLB economics super well, so if someone wants to correct me that would be great, but my understanding is that the greatest single factor that differentiates team revenue is local TV contract numbers. Presumably, the amount the contract is hypothetically worth depends on something vaguely approximate to the size of the media market times the level of interest in the team within the market? The overall point, though, is that competitive balance picks are a joke. Teams like Tampa and Oakland (both of whom will get picks in round B) that are in small BB markets have shown they can compete with the big boys just by being smart. Other small market teams should emulate their model, not rely on freebies. And it's a total joke that the O's get the first pick in round A. They have low revenues because they put a joke of a team on the field year after year. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 25, 2022 14:55:47 GMT -5
These picks are a product of self interested teams acting politically during CBA season. 7 no votes means there's no CBA. It's nice to be a swing voter.
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Post by jaffinator on Mar 25, 2022 15:00:55 GMT -5
Yeah that's why I said it's not solely determined by it. There are some teams in big TV markets with lower local interest and I assume that affects what the MLB thinks of as "market size." I don't know the MLB economics super well, so if someone wants to correct me that would be great, but my understanding is that the greatest single factor that differentiates team revenue is local TV contract numbers. Presumably, the amount the contract is hypothetically worth depends on something vaguely approximate to the size of the media market times the level of interest in the team within the market? The overall point, though, is that competitive balance picks are a joke. Teams like Tampa and Oakland (both of whom will get picks in round B) that are in small BB markets have shown they can compete with the big boys just by being smart. Other small market teams should emulate their model, not rely on freebies. And it's a total joke that the O's get the first pick in round A. They have low revenues because they put a joke of a team on the field year after year. I agree with the conclusion, but not necessarily the full reasoning. Though it is especially wild that the Nationals have been largely free spending of late and won a championship before the Orioles did, all while subsidizing a good bit of the Orioles revenues. I don't think it's reasonable to force some teams to have to be differentially smarter than everyone else in order to win the same number of games. But I don't think any team is being forced into that. I am not an expert, but I haven't seen anything that really shows that each franchise couldn't support a good or contending team if they wanted to. Teams are choosing not to spend, to make more money, and then get rewarded for it, which doesn't seem reasonable. Again, not an expert on what is certainly a complex accounting question. |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Mar 25, 2022 15:02:46 GMT -5
The Nats have a wealthy owner and I believe they got public financing for Nationals Park on top of it.
I guess I don’t mind the Padres’ pick too much if their revenues are that low.
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Post by jaffinator on Mar 25, 2022 15:05:52 GMT -5
These picks are a product of self interested teams acting politically during CBA season. 7 no votes means there's no CBA. It's nice to be a swing voter.
You should seriously temper your expectations if you're expecting some sort of logical coherence. For this logic to work, it would have to be the case that the small market teams who benefit care about the issue much more than the other teams do. Ideally, coordination would also be easier among the small market teams to get that to work. It's not clear to me exactly that these things are true or that the concentrated benefits/diffuse costs framework makes sense here. It may actually be the case that larger market teams, especially those who depend on baseball revenues (not the Steve Cohens of the world) actually think there's some benefit to these comp picks. |
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Post by Guidas on Mar 26, 2022 10:59:28 GMT -5
Yeah that's why I said it's not solely determined by it. There are some teams in big TV markets with lower local interest and I assume that affects what the MLB thinks of as "market size." I don't know the MLB economics super well, so if someone wants to correct me that would be great, but my understanding is that the greatest single factor that differentiates team revenue is local TV contract numbers. Presumably, the amount the contract is hypothetically worth depends on something vaguely approximate to the size of the media market times the level of interest in the team within the market? The overall point, though, is that competitive balance picks are a joke. Teams like Tampa and Oakland (both of whom will get picks in round B) that are in small BB markets have shown they can compete with the big boys just by being smart. Other small market teams should emulate their model, not rely on freebies. And it's a total joke that the O's get the first pick in round A. They have low revenues because they put a joke of a team on the field year after year. Exactly. It’s a system that rewards teams for being bad at their business. The bigger the media market, the more competition there is for eyes and ears. There’s some logic to the smaller market team theoretically with the potential to be more profitable or as profitable as a big market team because they’re essentially “the only game in town.” If big market teams such as Cleveland, Baltimore, Miami, Colorado (Denver), Oakland, Tampa, et al can’t make it, then they should sell to someone who’s better at business or move their team. Owners’ are their own worst enemies here and hurting the game and its fan growth mid- and long-term with these payouts to members of the club that are essentially banking cash. |
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Post by ramireja on Mar 28, 2022 10:56:57 GMT -5
Our unsigned 20th round pick from last year, Josh Hood, is having himself a nice year at NC State slashing .337/.420/.632 (6HR) as the team's starting shortstop. He's positioning himself well as a Day 2 pick for the 2022 draft.
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Post by alnipper on Mar 29, 2022 8:54:34 GMT -5
I'm glad our former prospects got my memo to have a great year!  It does indicate our scouts did a great job evaluating the talent this past year! |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 1, 2022 10:16:00 GMT -5
Rated #25 by BA currently.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 1, 2022 11:31:27 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 1, 2022 13:23:56 GMT -5
Rated #25 by BA currently. Tough luck. I was recently digging a bit into the draft and thought he was a guy the Red Sox might like. |
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Post by borisman on Apr 6, 2022 11:02:13 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 6, 2022 12:10:16 GMT -5
Because he is good lol. HS pitchers tend to go lower than their pre draft rankings due to signability and risk tolerance for teams. Walter Ford is like the youngest dude in the class throws hard already, throws a change up and is really athletic. Lots arrows pointing in the right direction. |
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Post by borisman on Apr 6, 2022 12:56:00 GMT -5
Because he is good lol. HS pitchers tend to go lower than their pre draft rankings due to signability and risk tolerance for teams. Walter Ford is like the youngest dude in the class throws hard already, throws a change up and is really athletic. Lots arrows pointing in the right direction. Yeah, thanks, I know he's good. It's why I brought it up a few months ago. I didn't really need an explanation on how good he is. He was ranked in the 50's or so last month or prior to that. Just curious as to why he jumped so high and so early in the rankings (he's pitched a bit over 20-25 innings). I haven't seen much news about it except the scouting reports about his stuff. I guess he had a ton of scouts seeing him this past weekend but read he wasn't at his best. So he must be killing so far this spring (nice be in Florida this time of year) and he'll still be 17 (I think) when he's drafted. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 6, 2022 20:28:04 GMT -5
Not that we have a chance to draft him but this kid is pretty good:
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Post by cdj on Apr 6, 2022 22:14:36 GMT -5
That’s a nasty change
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 11, 2022 12:42:47 GMT -5
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