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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 21, 2022 9:32:20 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 21, 2022 10:05:45 GMT -5
Am I correct that Gilbert is no longer a pitcher? So a former two-way player who has a good shot to stick in center and would probably go higher if he were anything close to six feet tall? Have to say, that does kinda fit the type.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 21, 2022 10:21:27 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 21, 2022 10:45:51 GMT -5
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Post by jaffinator on Apr 21, 2022 11:11:17 GMT -5
I think Gilbert would be great value at 24. He's on an absolute buzzsaw of a Tennessee team and his stock might rise over the rest of the season, but there are legit questions if the homerun power is ever going to come. He's more of a gap guy at the moment, but I think he has the potential to add it. He had 4 homers in the NCAA tourney last year, but there are times it looks like he's selling out for it. Perhaps as he has more time focusing just on being a hitter it'll come. If he does he's an actual-factual five tool guy in centerfield. He would fit the Red Sox mold of looking to high character, leadership oriented guys as well.
Here he is bringing Tennesse back from down 3 in last season's Knoxville regionals:
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 21, 2022 20:31:59 GMT -5
Dude is becoming one of my favorite pitchers in the class.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 22, 2022 21:05:24 GMT -5
From CF it looks even better.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 24, 2022 12:36:05 GMT -5
With Conforto undergoing season-ending surgery, he most certainly will not sign before the draft. Therefore the draft order should be locked in. According to MLB's site ( link), the Red Sox will have the following picks (included slot amounts from 2021, which should go up this year, along with the 2021 pick at that position): 24 (1st Round) - $2,831,300 (Ryan Cusick) 41 (2nd Round) - $1,813,500 (Connor Norby) 79 (Comp Round B) - $780,400 (McCade Brown) 99 (3rd Round) - $587,400 (Kevin Kopps) 129 (4th Round) - $438,700 (Jackson Wolf) 159 (5th Round) - $327,200 (Christian MacLeod) 189 (6th Round) - $253,300 (Travis Adams) 219 (7th Round) - $198,500 (Jake Rucker) 249 (8th Round) - $164,700 (Noah Cardenas) 279 (9th Round) - $150,500 (Patrick Winkel) 309 (10th Round) - $142,700 (Ernie Yake) *I kind of think MLB might have made a mistake in their draft order - Mariners and Twins lost their third pick for signing QO FAs. MLB has them losing their third rounders, but those are technically their fourth picks because both the Mariners and Twins have comp picks (not sure if comp picks are exempt from being lost for signing a QO FA). If MLB was to update and have those teams losing their comp picks instead of third round picks, the Red Sox would pick at 77 instead. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 25, 2022 20:29:49 GMT -5
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Post by jaffinator on Apr 26, 2022 17:20:14 GMT -5
Big faller here in Arkansas second baseman Robert Moore, pre-season top 15 type guy being ranked 92. Hitting .232/.388/.437. Still has a good approach with more walks than strikeouts, but has had little power this season and started the year real cold. As an underaged junior, he might end up in the same boat as Fabian and come back as a junior-aged senior. Didn't get to play ss with Jalen Battles coming back as a senior as well, if he can show off that well and hit better, who knows. Also son of Royals president Dayton Moore. |
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Post by bosox904 on Apr 26, 2022 21:14:38 GMT -5
Not that it upsets me in any way, but I found it interesting the Yanks finished 3rd and had to travel to Boston for the Wild Card game, but in the draft order the Sox pick ahead of them.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 26, 2022 22:13:00 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 27, 2022 7:49:46 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 27, 2022 9:06:04 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 27, 2022 9:14:10 GMT -5
Big faller here in Arkansas second baseman Robert Moore, pre-season top 15 type guy being ranked 92. Hitting .232/.388/.437. Still has a good approach with more walks than strikeouts, but has had little power this season and started the year real cold. As an underaged junior, he might end up in the same boat as Fabian and come back as a junior-aged senior. Didn't get to play ss with Jalen Battles coming back as a senior as well, if he can show off that well and hit better, who knows. Also son of Royals president Dayton Moore. I was at 2 of the 3 Arkansas-Texas A&M games, was super unimpressed by their two big position player prospects, Moore and Cayden Wallace. Moore just didn't make much good contact at all and when he did they had good exit velos (at least off the eye) but had little to no lift, so I don't see him as anything more than doubles power kind of guy that can run into a homer here and there eventually. Wallace can hit but absolutely cannot play third base and I was glad that when I went through those prospect rankings the usually-generous MLB gave him a 45 field. It's maybe a corner OF profile and his arm was fine but he also doesn't quite meet the offensive production bar to warrant a high pick if he's not a third basemen, IMO. On the other hand, they had a couple freshmen who looked GREAT. Peyton Stovall was super highly touted and I can see why, every time he got his bat on a ball it was barreled. He was a shortstop coming out and they've been sticking him at first just to get his bat in the lineup which I think tells you all you need to know about his ability, that a legitimately good team would take such measures to get him playing time. For that reason I also have no idea how he is defensively but the dude is gonna hit. The other guy, Brady Tygart, is their closer as a freshmen and is absolutely filthy. Mid-90's fastball, super high level breaking ball, and the guy I know that works for the Aggie baseball team said he has what is effectively a 6 pitch mix, although I am not nearly good enough at baseball scouting to have determined that myself. Pretty high level recruit so maybe a guy they'll try as a starter next year and if he actually has 6 pitches then it could work, but he could also 100% dominate as a reliever so definitely someone I'm going to be keeping tabs on as a future big leaguer this early. They had a couple older hitters that stood out, Brady Slavens had two nice homers Saturday, but nothing crazy. Jalen Battles looked like a good defender, but a future second basemen with the arm. Their Sunday starter, Jaxon Wiggins, throws gas and gets good movement on his slider but couldn't command a pitch to save his life and only made it a third of an inning before getting pulled with 5 earned runs. Not a dude right now, and isn't even draft eligible, but has the pure stuff to be at least a potential reliever prospect next year. I have plenty of thoughts on A&M's guys because I've seen a good ~15 of their games already this season but I'll probably save that for later in the year. Should also catch South Carolina and Mississippi State so if anyone has players they want me to pay attention to there, I will definitely keep an eye out. There are a few guys for MSU I already have noted to look at. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 27, 2022 9:49:24 GMT -5
Not that it upsets me in any way, but I found it interesting the Yanks finished 3rd and had to travel to Boston for the Wild Card game, but in the draft order the Sox pick ahead of them. Yeah I think the tiebreaker for the draft is previous season record. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 27, 2022 10:39:19 GMT -5
Dylan Lesko had TJ surgery, per Kiley McDaniel. Brutal for him as he was considered a top-10 pick and the best pitcher in the class prior to his injury.
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Post by bosox904 on Apr 27, 2022 11:00:52 GMT -5
Dylan Lesko had TJ surgery, per Kiley McDaniel. Brutal for him as he was considered a top-10 pick and the best pitcher in the class prior to his injury. I don't think I would be upset if the Sox took him if he fell to them now. |
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Post by jaffinator on Apr 27, 2022 11:33:35 GMT -5
Dylan Lesko had TJ surgery, per Kiley McDaniel. Brutal for him as he was considered a top-10 pick and the best pitcher in the class prior to his injury. I don't think I would be upset if the Sox took him if he fell to them now. I don't think there's a very good chance he falls that far at all. Though I haven't gotten to see him (no real way for commenters here to be have much first hand scouting on HS players) he's basically been the top HS pitching prospect in the class since he was 15. For a young guy there's tons of tape on him already. The Mets pick at 11 and 14 so they can tolerate a little risk and have big pitching needs. I'd be surprised if he gets past 14, let alone falls all the way to 24. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 27, 2022 12:02:34 GMT -5
Dylan Lesko had TJ surgery, per Kiley McDaniel. Brutal for him as he was considered a top-10 pick and the best pitcher in the class prior to his injury. Pitchers in this class are cursed damn. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 27, 2022 12:51:56 GMT -5
I agree I think the team that makes sense for Lesko would be the Mets with their two picks in the top 15. They’ve shown in the past willingness to draft pitchers that might require TJ like Matt Allan did before in his draft year. In this case he’s already done it so he is ahead of schedule.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 27, 2022 13:11:28 GMT -5
I agree I think the team that makes sense for Lesko would be the Mets with their two picks in the top 15. They’ve shown in the past willingness to draft pitchers that might require TJ like Matt Allan did before in his draft year. In this case he’s already done it so he is ahead of schedule. Ha the Mets also showed last year when they took Rocker they'd take a guy who probably needed TJ and then just not sign him. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 27, 2022 13:27:34 GMT -5
I agree I think the team that makes sense for Lesko would be the Mets with their two picks in the top 15. They’ve shown in the past willingness to draft pitchers that might require TJ like Matt Allan did before in his draft year. In this case he’s already done it so he is ahead of schedule. Ha the Mets also showed last year when they took Rocker they'd take a guy who probably needed TJ and then just not sign him. Apparently the Rocker issue is not TJ it’s with his shoulder. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 27, 2022 17:23:37 GMT -5
Jonathan Mayo’s first mock has the Red Sox taking HS SS Jett Williams.
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Post by jaffinator on Apr 27, 2022 18:35:54 GMT -5
Jonathan Mayo’s first mock has the Red Sox taking HS SS Jett Williams. Couple thoughts - first he has Jacob Berry top 10 here, but Berry is a guy I could see falling all the way to the Sox if no one falls in love with him earlier. He still doesn't have a home defensively (been tough going at both 3rd and RF for him) and apparently despite good results the exit velos haven't been there for him. Second, I'd be surprised if Jordan Beck lasted to 21, but honestly what do I know. After Parada, he's had some of the most impressive college power in the class. Third, the evaluation on the pitching, especially at the high school level seems to be especially all over the place this season. Lotta injuries and not a lot of guys who've really separated themselves from the pack. That's just what it looks like from seeing the pre-draft content at least. With all that, there might be a name that slips to the Sox - just depends on if they like whoever it is. Last thing - praying Cam Collier somehow slips to the Sox. Lot to like about a young for the draft hitter challenging himself in Junior College a year early and hitting well there. |
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