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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 13, 2022 23:04:21 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 15, 2022 19:37:36 GMT -5
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Post by larrycook on Jun 15, 2022 19:46:23 GMT -5
Was it Gilbert that flipped off the umpire and got suspended in the regionals?
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Post by jaffinator on Jun 15, 2022 19:59:55 GMT -5
Was it Gilbert that flipped off the umpire and got suspended in the regionals? You're conflating two separate events. Jordan Beck flipped off the Ga Tech center fielder after hitting what I think was the game-tying hit in the 9th in the regionals. Gilbert was tossed for swearing at a home plate ump in the super regionals which is an automatic suspension. He missed half of game 1 (Notre Dame win) for being ejected and was suspended for game 2 (Tennessee win). Beck was not disciplined.
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Jun 15, 2022 21:28:13 GMT -5
Bloom has only had two drafts and everything is super top secret with them so who knows, but neither Beck nor Gilbert really strike me as the type of guys this regime would take. Could be way off though
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Post by jaffinator on Jun 16, 2022 4:13:33 GMT -5
Bloom has only had two drafts and everything is super top secret with them so who knows, but neither Beck nor Gilbert really strike me as the type of guys this regime would take. Could be way off though I don't necessarily disagree, but I also think it's overrated the degree to which Bloom is often given sole responsibility for draft stuff, not that you really said otherwise.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 16, 2022 9:09:24 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 16, 2022 9:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by jdb on Jun 16, 2022 12:50:00 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 16, 2022 20:09:10 GMT -5
There is no way in hell that works out. Imagine a pitching prospect that works out both arms successfully? They barely can get one right.
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Post by cdj on Jun 16, 2022 22:36:16 GMT -5
There is no way in hell that works out. Imagine a pitching prospect that works out both arms successfully? They barely can get one right. The velocity at least appears to make it possible for the kid, this isn’t Venditte throwing 85 mph slop. Up to 96 from the right, 89-92 from the left. Natural lefty with better stuff from the right. Truly fascinating
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Post by nomar on Jun 17, 2022 0:03:40 GMT -5
Beck just doesn’t have good enough numbers to back his scouting report for me.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 17, 2022 15:12:03 GMT -5
Connor Prielipp topped out at 95 at the combine and looked better as he comes back from TJ.
As things stand now the only College OF I’m interested with the 1st round pick is Chase DeLauter. I would take Prielipp and Rocker above any of the rest too. Tucker Toman also looked good hitting some tanks in BP.
Another standout was 6’7” tower RHP Jacob Misiorowski from Crowder JC he was sitting 100 easy. In a draft that lacks pitching he made some money today I’d guess.
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Post by jaffinator on Jun 17, 2022 15:30:28 GMT -5
Connor Prielipp topped out at 95 at the combine and looked better as he comes back from TJ. As things stand now the only College OF I’m interested with the 1st round pick is Chase DeLauter. I would take Prielipp and Rocker above any of the rest too. Tucker Toman also looked good hitting some tanks in BP. Another standout was 6’7” tower RHP Jacob Misiorowski from Crowder JC he was sitting 100 easy. In a draft that lacks pitching he made some money today I’d guess. Not to be pedantic, but I assume you mean that the only college OF you'd be interested in who has any chance of being available. Because I'd snap someone's arm off to pick up Gavin Cross there. Also, Jacob Berry played (poorly) a bunch of games in the outfield but I don't actually like him as a prospect very much and there's not a great chance he's an outfielder long term. Wait, I guess I did mean to be pedantic there. Oops.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 17, 2022 16:18:51 GMT -5
Yes should have been clearer meant of the ones likely to be available.
I don’t like Berry’s defensive profile either but if he is available (which I don’t think at this point) it would be hard to find a better bat.
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Post by jaffinator on Jun 17, 2022 17:49:24 GMT -5
Yes should have been clearer meant of the ones likely to be available. I don’t like Berry’s defensive profile either but if he is available (which I don’t think at this point) it would be hard to find a better bat. I would take him at 24 just because statistically it's much more likely everyone else sees something I don't as opposed to me being right against the grain, but I'm not in love with the power from Berry either. It's the home runs to some degree, but he just doesn't hit the ball all that hard for a guy who's going to have to do some slugging to stick at the next level. That said, the approach and the eye are phenomenal. I don't know how many guys carried a sub 10 K% in the SEC last year but not very many did it while still hitting for power.
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Post by nomar on Jun 17, 2022 18:59:04 GMT -5
Ok, I’ve officially decided that my Mayer miracle fall of this years’s draft would be Jace Jung. Hopefully hype fatigue is enough for these cowards to let him fall.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 17, 2022 19:16:27 GMT -5
Yes should have been clearer meant of the ones likely to be available. I don’t like Berry’s defensive profile either but if he is available (which I don’t think at this point) it would be hard to find a better bat. I would take him at 24 just because statistically it's much more likely everyone else sees something I don't as opposed to me being right against the grain, but I'm not in love with the power from Berry either. It's the home runs to some degree, but he just doesn't hit the ball all that hard for a guy who's going to have to do some slugging to stick at the next level. That said, the approach and the eye are phenomenal. I don't know how many guys carried a sub 10 K% in the SEC last year but not very many did it while still hitting for power. Definitely makes one happy that we have the advance stats like how hard players are hitting the ball because years before you would just assume a player with his profile is naturally hitting the ball hard. Comparing his stats it looks like he had a big cut down of his SOs (from 58 to 22) but also his XBH went down (41 to 24) so perhaps he needs to fine tune his approach when to be more aggressive. He was also dealing with a broken finger down the stretch which obviously affected his power too. If I was doing a College hitters ranking I would definitely have Lee, Parada, Gross and Jung ahead but he is young for the class and two years of good performance so hard to pass up in the mid 1st round I’d say.
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Post by larrycook on Jun 18, 2022 0:29:03 GMT -5
I would take him at 24 just because statistically it's much more likely everyone else sees something I don't as opposed to me being right against the grain, but I'm not in love with the power from Berry either. It's the home runs to some degree, but he just doesn't hit the ball all that hard for a guy who's going to have to do some slugging to stick at the next level. That said, the approach and the eye are phenomenal. I don't know how many guys carried a sub 10 K% in the SEC last year but not very many did it while still hitting for power. Definitely makes one happy that we have the advance stats like how hard players are hitting the ball because years before you would just assume a player with his profile is naturally hitting the ball hard. Comparing his stats it looks like he had a big cut down of his SOs (from 58 to 22) but also his XBH went down (41 to 24) so perhaps he needs to fine tune his approach when to be more aggressive. He was also dealing with a broken finger down the stretch which obviously affected his power too. If I was doing a College hitters ranking I would definitely have Lee, Parada, Gross and Jung ahead but he is young for the class and two years of good performance so hard to pass up in the mid 1st round I’d say. Would you include Neto in this group ahead?
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Post by cdj on Jun 18, 2022 1:02:06 GMT -5
I’d be down for Jung
His cape league stint was a little weird though- his BB:K completely flipped with the change to wood bats against high end competition. Small sample yes but such a drastic change
I haven’t gotten out to them yet this year but I hear the Kettleers got some great pitching, I’ll have to go check them out and figure out who I want in future drafts
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Post by jaffinator on Jun 18, 2022 8:49:40 GMT -5
Definitely makes one happy that we have the advance stats like how hard players are hitting the ball because years before you would just assume a player with his profile is naturally hitting the ball hard. Comparing his stats it looks like he had a big cut down of his SOs (from 58 to 22) but also his XBH went down (41 to 24) so perhaps he needs to fine tune his approach when to be more aggressive. He was also dealing with a broken finger down the stretch which obviously affected his power too. If I was doing a College hitters ranking I would definitely have Lee, Parada, Gross and Jung ahead but he is young for the class and two years of good performance so hard to pass up in the mid 1st round I’d say. Would you include Neto in this group ahead? I would take Neto over Berry without hesitation, but position does make a difference there. Neto is a big leg kick guy as well.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 18, 2022 13:52:06 GMT -5
Would you include Neto in this group ahead? I would yes I know his conference is weaker but he torched it and when he had to play big teams he stood out as well.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 21, 2022 10:05:11 GMT -5
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jun 21, 2022 10:23:50 GMT -5
Former football player, same size, close to the same tools, this is Ryan Kalish with a better chance to reach that 20/20 upside
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 21, 2022 10:40:50 GMT -5
Yes, please. Am I a little influenced by seeing him hit a home run in person the other day? Sure. But the dude has obvious tools.
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