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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 5, 2021 9:41:07 GMT -5
Gamblers do not seem to be impressed by Kutter Crawford
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 5, 2021 9:42:19 GMT -5
Schwarber 7 Renfroe 9 Martinez DH Verdugo 8 Plawecki 2 Shaw 3 Dalbec 5 Lopez 4 Arauz 6 Let’s get weird The old saw is that it's hard to sweep a series but half the time the manager sits all the regulars in the third game...
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Post by cdj on Sept 5, 2021 9:45:41 GMT -5
And yes Pivetta is on the covid IL
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 5, 2021 9:45:54 GMT -5
Cole is the guy we want to face the least out of all 3 teams though. Depending on how the season finishes. They might have to use him that last weekend Just keep winning, take care of your own business and let everyone else scratch and claw at the end.
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Post by vokuhila on Sept 5, 2021 9:48:24 GMT -5
Is this the biggest corona outbreak of any MLB team by now?
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 5, 2021 9:48:35 GMT -5
And yes Pivetta is on the covid IL Dang, I thought covid had gone away. Does Crawford get the call, then?
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Post by vokuhila on Sept 5, 2021 9:52:58 GMT -5
And yes Pivetta is on the covid IL Dang, I thought covid had gone away. Does Crawford get the call, then? yep
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 5, 2021 9:57:20 GMT -5
Dang, I thought covid had gone away. Does Crawford get the call, then? yep LFG
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 5, 2021 10:00:18 GMT -5
If this team can simultaneously make the playoffs and give big-league try-outs to half their minor league players, they ought to start carving the statues of AC and Chaim right now.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 5, 2021 10:29:42 GMT -5
From Alex Speier: "Pivetta was briefly placed on the COVID-19-related IL early this season after getting vaccinated, so presumably this is another breakthrough positive."
Is it still the case that vaccinated players can come back before 10 days even after testing positive?
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Post by art on Sept 5, 2021 10:54:43 GMT -5
LOVE this team. Dugie doin' it! Everyone's battling. Didn't want to see Peacock in the 10th!This, in spades! I almost gagged when I heard he was warming up. We'd already dodged Davis & Robles bullets.
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Post by vokuhila on Sept 5, 2021 11:04:13 GMT -5
If this team can simultaneously make the playoffs and give big-league try-outs to half their minor league players, they ought to start carving the statues of AC and Chaim right now. The Covid IL basically acts like the old 40 man roster expansion for the moment.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Sept 5, 2021 11:08:55 GMT -5
What is our pen today?
Whitlock - Closer Ottavino - Needs day off Richards - can we get 2 innings. Pitched 3 on Thur Robles - Ugh Davis - Ugh Brasher - 1 inning Valdrzt - Prob out Peacock - Ugh
Who am I missing?
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Post by vokuhila on Sept 5, 2021 11:17:08 GMT -5
Otto, Robles, Valdez, Davis no Whitlock Brasier maybe Richards probably Schreiber Gonsalves Peacock depends if it's a close game?
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Post by widewordofsport on Sept 5, 2021 11:20:06 GMT -5
Fun with Fangraphs, SSS, and the rotation, for AL SPs with 30+ IP
Eovaldi second in pitcher WAR in the AL. ERod 12, Pivetta 33, Houck 42, Perez 69, Richards 78. If you pro-rate Sale/Houck, thats a really strong rotation.
ERod is 12th somehow, despite a 4.88 ERA. Mike minor at 25th is only other one with ERA above 4 in the top 25. This is because for SPs ERod leads the AL in ERA-xERA.
Houck the only starter in the top 75 in WAR without a pitcher win. Also the only one in top 50 with under 50 IP.
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Post by vokuhila on Sept 5, 2021 11:27:19 GMT -5
Fun with Fangraphs, SSS, and the rotation, for AL SPs with 30+ IP Eovaldi second in pitcher WAR in the AL. ERod 12, Pivetta 33, Houck 42, Perez 69, Richards 78. If you pro-rate Sale/Houck, thats a really strong rotation. ERod is 12th somehow, despite a 4.88 ERA. Mike minor at 25th is only other one with ERA above 4 in the top 25. This is because for SPs ERod leads the AL in ERA-xERA.
Houck the only starter in the top 75 in WAR without a pitcher win. Also the only one in top 50 with under 50 IP. Small correction: fangraphs WAR uses FIP as the base metric, not xERA. The point remains valid, ERA hates ERod (4.88), all other metrics don't (~3.5).
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 5, 2021 11:29:55 GMT -5
THIS is Connor Seabold!? OK, prediction: If the Sox bring him up this week, they're going to the WS. Just on the vibe alone he makes the team that much better: I think it's too late for @seabs26 to qualify for a playoff roster spot but he could definitely help down the stretch. One extra guy in the org as of 8/31 is eligible as long as Bazardo stays on the 60-day IL.
They can make it 2 by putting Mata on the list retroactively, before the ml season ends ... I think.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 5, 2021 11:37:02 GMT -5
Fun with Fangraphs, SSS, and the rotation, for AL SPs with 30+ IP Eovaldi second in pitcher WAR in the AL. ERod 12, Pivetta 33, Houck 42, Perez 69, Richards 78. If you pro-rate Sale/Houck, thats a really strong rotation. ERod is 12th somehow, despite a 4.88 ERA. Mike minor at 25th is only other one with ERA above 4 in the top 25. This is because for SPs ERod leads the AL in ERA-xERA. Houck the only starter in the top 75 in WAR without a pitcher win. Also the only one in top 50 with under 50 IP. Fangraphs pitcher WAR is based on FIP. I think it's fair for Rodriguez, whose FIP, xFIP, and xERA are all pretty similar (in the 3.40-3.60 range), but overrates Eovaldi, whose FIP (2.92) is a fair bit lower than his xERA and xFIP (around 3.50). When one of those three numbers is not like the others I'm inclined to discount the outlier.
I think one of their chatters said they were thinking about switching their WAR to be xERA-based, which I think would be a good idea, as I think that's the most informative of those numbers. By that metric Eovaldi is 8th and Rodriguez 11th among starters with 100 IP. (And the White Sox have 3 of the top 5! I'm torn between thinking they look like the toughest AL playoff team and wondering why their record isn't better when they play in that weak ass division.)
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Post by shagworthy on Sept 5, 2021 11:38:27 GMT -5
Ha! Danny Santana now too.
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Post by manfred on Sept 5, 2021 11:57:25 GMT -5
The answer to “how many guys have to get sick for Franchy Cordero to return to Boston?” is what… 13?
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Sept 5, 2021 11:58:08 GMT -5
Ha! Danny Santana now too. Franchy replaces
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 5, 2021 12:02:39 GMT -5
Wow- who would have predicted that we'd get a pennant race, a return of Sale and an opportunity to see so many of the organization's kids all in the same season. What a year. Looking forward to see what Kutter (great name) brings today
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Post by jimoh on Sept 5, 2021 12:15:28 GMT -5
Not Covid: AP The New York Yankees placed reliever Jonathan Loaisiga on the 10-day injured list Sunday because of a strained right rotator cuff.
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Post by widewordofsport on Sept 5, 2021 12:16:10 GMT -5
Fun with Fangraphs, SSS, and the rotation, for AL SPs with 30+ IP Eovaldi second in pitcher WAR in the AL. ERod 12, Pivetta 33, Houck 42, Perez 69, Richards 78. If you pro-rate Sale/Houck, thats a really strong rotation. ERod is 12th somehow, despite a 4.88 ERA. Mike minor at 25th is only other one with ERA above 4 in the top 25. This is because for SPs ERod leads the AL in ERA-xERA. Houck the only starter in the top 75 in WAR without a pitcher win. Also the only one in top 50 with under 50 IP. Fangraphs pitcher WAR is based on FIP. I think it's fair for Rodriguez, whose FIP, xFIP, and xERA are all pretty similar (in the 3.40-3.60 range), but overrates Eovaldi, whose FIP (2.92) is a fair bit lower than his xERA and xFIP (around 3.50). When one of those three numbers is not like the others I'm inclined to discount the outlier. I think one of their chatters said they were thinking about switching their WAR to be xERA-based, which I think would be a good idea, as I think that's the most informative of those numbers. By that metric Eovaldi is 8th and Rodriguez 11th among starters with 100 IP. (And the White Sox have 3 of the top 5! I'm torn between thinking they look like the toughest AL playoff team and wondering why their record isn't better when they play in that weak ass division.)
I meant to and should have made clear I was just browsing and do not understand the details of the metrics and all that goes into it, so while Im sure the point remains, thanks for the clarification. I still think you let ERod go, if you believe in Houck/Pivetta/Whitlock with Seabold/Kutter/Perez/Richards providing some depth. But maybe his unlucky season has depressed his value. I just don't think he's a guy you give four years to.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Sept 5, 2021 12:16:48 GMT -5
September 4th starters for the Red Sox MLB, AAA, AA were Houck, Seabold, and Groome.
5 3 0 0 0 7 6 1 0 0 3 4 5 2 0 0 0 10
The total being 16 6 0 0 3 21
That is 16 innings, no runs, just 3 walks, and 21 strikeouts!!! Those are some stats you have to love!!
I am hoping for Kutter Crawford to have a good MLB first game, although stats like yesterday might be too much to ask.
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