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Post by cdj on Sept 11, 2021 20:41:25 GMT -5
Defense will look a lot better when we have Correa at SS next year guys don’t worry
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Post by elp51 on Sept 11, 2021 20:43:04 GMT -5
I wonder if teams signing free agents next year will include Vaccinated mandates should be interesting. Red Sox ownership has to be beyond annoyed.
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Post by cdj on Sept 11, 2021 20:49:16 GMT -5
Nice play Doogie
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Sept 11, 2021 20:49:57 GMT -5
The teams D has to be killing Cora. I think most of us are under-appreciating what Cora's going through just to get a semblance of a competitive team out on the field over the last 2 weeks. Not to mention the bullpen and now finally who is taking the mound in the 1st inning in place of Pivetta and now Sale. I'm guessing this is what is keeping him up at night. The "D" has been subpar all year. Even when they were the top team in the AL. It has cost them no doubt, but I really think his greatest concern now is getting everyone back in the next few days.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Sept 11, 2021 20:50:06 GMT -5
who are the above average defenders on our team, Kiké and renfroe and that's it right? left field verdugo is +8 runs in 580 innings
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Post by cdj on Sept 11, 2021 20:50:51 GMT -5
Robert is a stud
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Sept 11, 2021 21:01:17 GMT -5
Verdugo is like, "Bummer."
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 11, 2021 21:03:04 GMT -5
I don’t know why all the Connor Seabold disdain tonight. Is he a fire baller? No, but some guys named Greg Maddux and Adam Wainwright dominated with mediocre fastballs. Connor is also coming off a major injury and made his big league debut tonight. His minor league comps are that of a 3-5 starter range. It’s quite obvious that the organization has a shortage of young stud arms but Bloom and the organization is trying to change that. I’m guessing that the defense and signing power arms in the offseason will be a top priority not much they can do right now. See what Seabold, Crawford, etc. can do. I like Houck and Whitlock in the rotation next year with Sale, Pivetta, and FA signing. Maddux had a good fastball, 93-94 (well above average at the time), in the first half of his career, with breath-taking movement and command. Obviously he had 3-4 other 60-70 grade pitches to go along with his 80 command, so many just assume that his fastball was nothing special. He also called his own games (giving surreptitious signs to the catcher) and positioned the defense, so let's not burden a kid like Seabold with a Maddux comp.
Equally foolish to pass judgement on Seabold or Crawford after their first big-league starts, both in emergency situations, as so many here are doing. Either or both could make meaningful contributions next year (Crawford more likely from the bullpen) but for right now, short of some kind of Buchholzian miracle, you could only hope that they didn't just melt down, which they didn't. They pretty much pitched how a AAA kid called up on short notice would be expected to pitch. Who knows, maybe one of them will match Buchholz next time they get a chance.
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Post by elp51 on Sept 11, 2021 21:03:46 GMT -5
Defense will look a lot better when we have Correa at SS next year guys don’t worry Are you putting Xander at 2nd?
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 11, 2021 21:06:07 GMT -5
Defense will look a lot better when we have Correa at SS next year guys don’t worry [Throw up in my mouth a little...]
I think I'd take Baez over Correa.
[...and a little bit more...]
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 11, 2021 21:06:33 GMT -5
Defense will look a lot better when we have Correa at SS next year guys don’t worry Are you putting Xander at 2nd? I'd move him to 3B with Raffy at DH
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Post by cdj on Sept 11, 2021 21:10:45 GMT -5
I don’t hate Feliz
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Post by elp51 on Sept 11, 2021 21:11:52 GMT -5
It’s crazy and I love this page but the Red Sox are getting to a point thanks to COVID and injuries I have no idea who Feliz is… Peacock pitched the other day it’s like are we taking people off the streets at this point. Man this season turned into an abyss. Hey the Mets took the lead on the Spankees!
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 11, 2021 21:12:07 GMT -5
This ump
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Sept 11, 2021 21:12:11 GMT -5
Our dog has Feliz!
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Post by cdj on Sept 11, 2021 21:12:17 GMT -5
Defense will look a lot better when we have Correa at SS next year guys don’t worry Are you putting Xander at 2nd? Probably 3B. But he could play 2B too. I’d ask him what he’s most comfortable with and go from there. If he’s willing to play all around the infield then even better. But we can’t continue to trot him out at SS, and moving him up 3B could conceivably improve our D at 2 spots
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 11, 2021 21:12:53 GMT -5
Losing that lead was a real buzz kill. Eck seems to have just gone quiet for long stretches - not much to say. Now the Ellis show.
Didn't we just have a game like this? Big lead, bullpen lost it...
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Post by cdj on Sept 11, 2021 21:14:31 GMT -5
Nice 6-5-3 boys
More of that!!
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Post by elp51 on Sept 11, 2021 21:14:49 GMT -5
I’d take Grandall monster over Vazquez any day of the week. Red Sox showed some defensive ability wow nice play now let’s go get a couple of runs!
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 11, 2021 21:15:10 GMT -5
who are the above average defenders on our team, Kiké and renfroe and that's it right? Arroyo, when he's on the field. (They need to go down to Louisiana and get him a mojo that keeps him healthy.)
Renfroe is an odd bird. 80 arm and athletic but questionable instincts and routes. Hope he improves, as he's under control for two more years.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 11, 2021 21:16:56 GMT -5
I’d take Grandall monster over Vazquez any day of the week. Red Sox showed some defensive ability wow nice play now let’s go get a couple of runs! If memory serves, Grandal has a lousy catcher's ERA but I can't remember how to look that up.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 11, 2021 21:17:36 GMT -5
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Post by elp51 on Sept 11, 2021 21:17:36 GMT -5
Losing that lead was a real buzz kill. Eck seems to have just gone quiet for long stretches - not much to say. Now the Ellis show. Didn't we just have a game like this? Big lead, bullpen lost it... It’s been a regular occurrence going back to that Jays and Rays series after the deadline. Springer HR vs Barnes was a killer that was the turn for the pen. Oh great we get Kimbrel again wonder if Bloom squirms at this sight wondering if he should have acquired him. I’ll say this the Cubs got a lot for him.
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Sept 11, 2021 21:19:00 GMT -5
Orioles are on the verge of a pitching performance Akin to Corbin Burnes.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 11, 2021 21:20:07 GMT -5
Losing that lead was a real buzz kill. Eck seems to have just gone quiet for long stretches - not much to say. Now the Ellis show. Didn't we just have a game like this? Big lead, bullpen lost it... Exactly, lost the lead due to bad defense (Verdugo the main culprit that time - not enough eye black). Bullpen stunk too. Was much more drawn out, though. Lead slipped away, drip, drip, drip, until the 10th.
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