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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 3, 2021 21:31:46 GMT -5
So- the active roster for Tuesday.
I've read that it may be worth leaving Sale off (since he threw today). Iglesias isn't eligible. The other big question is whether JD is too injured to play.
With no Iglesias, it becomes Arroyo. Sale's departure would allow for Duran to come up for pinch running speed?
If no JD, gets both Dalbec and Schwarber into the game - Bring up Arauz to replace Iglesias.
Outfield - Verdugo, Kiké and Renfro
Infield - Devers, Xander, Arroyo, Dalbec
Catcher - Vazquez
DH - Schwarber or JD (depending upon his health).
Eovaldi starts - primary relief from Whitlock, Brasier, Barnes, Ottavino, Robles, ERod and Pivetta
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Oct 3, 2021 21:50:30 GMT -5
So- the active roster for Tuesday. I've read that it may be worth leaving Sale off (since he threw today). Iglesias isn't eligible. The other big question is whether JD is too injured to play. With no Iglesias, it becomes Arroyo. Sale's departure would allow for Duran to come up for pinch running speed? If no JD, gets both Dalbec and Schwarber into the game - Bring up Arauz to replace Iglesias. Outfield - Verdugo, Kiké and Renfro Infield - Devers, Xander, Arroyo, Dalbec Catcher - Vazquez DH - Schwarber or JD (depending upon his health). Eovaldi starts - primary relief from Whitlock, Brasier, Barnes, Ottavino, Robles, ERod and Pivetta It's pretty easy to get Duran on the roster and I think he will. Iglesias gets you to 27, Perez is a no brainer to come off, Davis, Sawamura could without any issue. Plus you don't need to carry Sale unless you want to use him (unlikely IMO). Who knows if JD is even available |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 4, 2021 7:12:49 GMT -5
Drellich reporting that teams will carry a 9-man taxi squad in the postseason, so my guess is you're looking at a 35-man pool set for the duration.
Current roster minus Iggy (thanks for your service). In the WC game if a pitcher isn't available just take them off (I can't imagine JDM can't at least pinch hit), otherwise probably remove Pérez. Taylor also looms when ready.
Here's a question: do they need to activate the COVID-19 IL guys? Muñoz can be removed and Santana DFA'd at this point, but getting Valdez active is a bit dicier - now you're getting to a potential Potts DFA.
Names likely for taxi squad: Wong, Araúz, Duran, Muñoz, Franchy, Valdez, Pérez, Bazardo, one more arm although not sure how Taylor needs to be treated.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 4, 2021 7:15:06 GMT -5
Whats the word on the seriousness of JD’s ankle sprain? Thankfully we have Schwarber…
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 4, 2021 9:15:27 GMT -5
Thinking it through further:
In 2019 the WC teams had 9-11 pitchers with a 25-man roster. I think the Red Sox go 12.
SP Eovaldi
Bullpen
Barnes
Ottavino
Robles
Richards
Whitlock
Houck
Davis
Brasier
SaleDarwinzon
Pivetta
Erod
Vázquez
Plawecki
Dalbec
Schwarber
Arroyo
Bogaerts
Devers
Verdugo
Kiké
Renfroe
JDM (again, even if not starting, gotta think he can pinch hit)
Shaw
Wong
Duran
Possible they go Araúz instead of a pitcher, Darwinzon or Taylor instead of a SP.
EDIT: Updated given that it wounds like Sale's a no-go. I'm assuming they're not going to activate Taylor otherwise it'd be him instead of Darwinzon.
Also, don't hate the Santana thoughts below. Wonder if they'd go him instead of Duran...
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Post by bcsox on Oct 4, 2021 10:05:36 GMT -5
I posted in a different thread, but if JD cant go, is there any chance they view Shaw as someone who will give better at bats against Cole than Bobby?
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Post by cba82 on Oct 4, 2021 11:35:28 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say these words: Bring Danny Santana back from the dead.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Oct 4, 2021 11:46:26 GMT -5
Dalbec went 3-44, 068/128/205, against RHP 95+ mph fastballs.
Question I was thinking this morning... if JD is out... Casas MLB debut until Cole is pulled?
Alas, JD should be a-ok. (hopefully)
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 4, 2021 11:52:28 GMT -5
Yeah… Bobby should not start.
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Post by jimoh on Oct 4, 2021 12:09:14 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say these words: Bring Danny Santana back from the dead. I think this is not impossible. He would be the best overall pinch-runner--less likely than Duran to score from first, but a professional who can steal a base at a 75% clip. And can play 5 positions. Duran should be a great base stealer but is not yet. |
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Post by soxinsf on Oct 4, 2021 19:43:53 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say these words: Bring Danny Santana back from the dead. Â I think this is not impossible. Â He would be the best overall pinch-runner--less likely than Duran to score from first, but a professional who can steal a base at a 75% clip. Â And can play 5 positions. Â Duran should be a great base stealer but is not yet. I can see the logic in choosing Santana over Duran based on Swiss Army Knife theory of roster creation. With Iglesias not eligible, an infielder is a big need on the bench any time Kiké plays CF. But saying that Duran is not a basestealer is simply wrong. The guy had 15 or 16 steals in 60 games. That works out to over 40 on a full season basis. How many in MLB had more? As someone once saidâYou are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts. |
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Post by jmei on Oct 4, 2021 20:24:45 GMT -5
Eh, Duran also had only 2 SB (and 1 CS) in 33 MLB games (26 starts). I recall there being some consternation at his not being given the green light to steal despite at least a few relatively high-leverage opportunities in Boston. At the very least, I think it's fair to say that, to date, they've not shown a willingness to use Duran as a basestealer in clutch situations, and the Wild Card game would be an odd time to start doing so.
(To be fair, it would also be an odd situation for Santana, who missed a lot of time, had just four rehab starts and wasn't exactly a prolific basestealer this year, either (4 SB and 2 CS in 38 games (29 starts)). More likely that they just don't have anyone that they trust to attempt a stolen base in a clutch situation.)
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 4, 2021 20:30:27 GMT -5
I actually can see them leaving E-Rod off the roster, if they don't want him working twice between starts. Remember that he he's the scheduled game 2 starter for the DS if they get that far. He could even pitch game 1.
Pivetta is another possible omission, for the same reason.
OTOH, tomorrow is likely Sale's day to throw a bullpen. He could give them a great inning against the right part of the line-up.
Duran's an obvious add. Wong seems very likely, especially if JDM is out, to make them comfortable about using both catchers.
Santana would require a 40-man move, but they can DFA Iglesias (and sign him to a split major / minor league deal with a verbal promise that it will be major).
They'll have a sense of which of the non-obvious reliervs might be useful or not, based on matchup analyses. If not going to guess who might be omitted, or how many.
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Post by soxinsf on Oct 4, 2021 21:07:31 GMT -5
Eh, Duran also had only 2 SB (and 1 CS) in 33 MLB games (26 starts). I recall there being some consternation at his not being given the green light to steal despite at least a few relatively high-leverage opportunities in Boston. At the very least, I think it's fair to say that, to date, they've not shown a willingness to use Duran as a basestealer in clutch situations, and the Wild Card game would be an odd time to start doing so. (To be fair, it would also be an odd situation for Santana, who missed a lot of time, had just four rehab starts and wasn't exactly a prolific basestealer this year, either (4 SB and 2 CS in 38 games (29 starts)). More likely that they just don't have anyone that they trust to attempt a stolen base in a clutch situation.) We have no information about why so few steal attempts at the MLB, level but his 16 ( now confirmed) successful steals in 19 attempts is why there was confusion and some consternation at the limited number of attempts for the Sox. If Santana is not an option per Eric, and JD not able to go, then Duran or even Arauz become considerations. |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Oct 4, 2021 21:08:08 GMT -5
I actually can see them leaving E-Rod off the roster, if they don't want him working twice between starts. Remember that he he's the scheduled game 2 starter for the DS if they get that far. He could even pitch game 1.
Pivetta is another possible omission, for the same reason.
OTOH, tomorrow is likely Sale's day to throw a bullpen. He could give them a great inning against the right part of the line-up.
Duran's an obvious add. Wong seems very likely, especially if JDM is out, to make them comfortable about using both catchers.
Santana would require a 40-man move, but they can DFA Iglesias (and sign him to a split major / minor league deal with a verbal promise that it will be major).
They'll have a sense of which of the non-obvious reliervs might be useful or not, based on matchup analyses. If not going to guess who might be omitted, or how many.
I like the thinking on E-Rod and Sale. Not sure if they are committed to Pivetta as a starter in the playoffs (or at least I haven't heard). Given the yawning void at closer, I wouldn't mind seeing him try it again.
[Based on the schedule for the ALDS (if they get there, of course) I don't see a need for Pivetta as a SP: 10/7 - E-Rod; 10/8 - Sale; 10/10 - Eovaldi; 10/11 - Houck; 10/13 - Sale. Houck could be available for Game 1 or 2. E-Rod would be available for Game 5 and maybe Game 3. Eovaldi would be lined up for Game 1 of the ALCS.]
Obviously it could go a lot of ways but my point is that I think I would move Pivetta to a single-inning RP role, rather than a starting role, and therefore leave him on the WC roster. He seems to thrive when his adrenaline pumping anyway (might he someday follow the Papel-path?).
Duran is a weapon as a pinch-runner, if only to go 1st to 3rd (or home) or 2nd to home. Just ask Mike Scioscia.
Iglesias is a FA as of today, isn't he? I wouldn't mind seeing him again in February but I don't think he's going to sign anything before November at the earliest.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 4, 2021 21:08:34 GMT -5
Cora came out and said today that Pivetta will be in the bullpen, and he made it sound like Rodriguez probably would be, although he wasn't as certain. He did not mention Sale.
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