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Red Sox vs. Rays 2021 ALDS Gameday Thread
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Post by manfred on Oct 10, 2021 10:56:09 GMT -5
It's drunk o'clock somewhere... I rarely get to do this, so am taking the opportunity to refer you to one of my favorite ground rules: d. Don't brag about how often you get drunk. I'm not sure why this gets brought up here that often, but for a while it did. Maybe it's because we have a lot of college-age members. If you love to party, great. But to brag about how often you get wasted on a message board is bush league. Yikes! That is a deep cut. Mea culpa.
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Post by manfred on Oct 10, 2021 10:57:20 GMT -5
Crap. I just realized this game is on MLBN, which I don’t have on cable. Does anyone know if an MLB.tv subscription from the regular season will work for streaming? Ugh! Oh no! Is that different from the app? I was excited to see the game!
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Post by foreverred9 on Oct 10, 2021 11:13:33 GMT -5
Crap. I just realized this game is on MLBN, which I don’t have on cable. Does anyone know if an MLB.tv subscription from the regular season will work for streaming? Ugh! I can't see it either. Mine dropped MLB network so I'll have to locate a radio and listen to Joe Castiglione and hope I don't get too much static. Ridiculous. Hopefully we're not getting Jim Kaat announcing this one.
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Post by Canseco on Oct 10, 2021 11:18:34 GMT -5
How on earth is an MLB playoff game not on major network? This is lunacy.
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 10, 2021 11:33:54 GMT -5
I can't see it either. Mine dropped MLB network so I'll have to locate a radio and listen to Joe Castiglione and hope I don't get too much static. Ridiculous. Hopefully we're not getting Jim Kaat announcing this one. And that 40 acres comment the other day was so cringey. I don’t know how Jack Morris got suspended but not Jim Kaat when Kaat’s comment was explicitly racist…
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 10, 2021 11:40:12 GMT -5
I can't see it either. Mine dropped MLB network so I'll have to locate a radio and listen to Joe Castiglione and hope I don't get too much static. Ridiculous. Way to stick it to your already dwindling fan base, MLB. You can negotiate a sports package into your cable plan when you’re due to renew. Lookup who their competitor is and say you’re switching if they don’t add it for free or at a discount. I’ve done that with Comcast like 3 times.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 10, 2021 11:45:15 GMT -5
The mlb radio plan is also only 20 bucks a season. Thats less than what my uber to Fenway costs for one game.
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Post by jmei on Oct 10, 2021 11:51:43 GMT -5
I believe FuboTV carries MLB Network and has a seven day free trial. A few other services (YouTube TV, Sling TV, Hulu TV, etc.) also carry MLB Network and have cheaper introductory offers. Not sure if available in all areas, though, and read the fine print carefully.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 10, 2021 11:51:44 GMT -5
My two abiding beliefs:
1) Having an effective bullpen is incredibly important.
2) Any reliever can suddenly turn into an ace or a pumpkin at any given moment, and it is completely impossible to predict who and when.
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Post by foreverred9 on Oct 10, 2021 12:03:05 GMT -5
Crap. I just realized this game is on MLBN, which I don’t have on cable. Does anyone know if an MLB.tv subscription from the regular season will work for streaming? Ugh! It looks like you need a postseason package, unfortunately: www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/subscribe/postseason/2021
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 10, 2021 12:08:50 GMT -5
You can get a one month subscription to mlb radio for like 4 bucks too I believe. I would just do that.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 10, 2021 12:38:46 GMT -5
Way to stick it to your already dwindling fan base, MLB. You can negotiate a sports package into your cable plan when you’re due to renew. Lookup who their competitor is and say you’re switching if they don’t add it for free or at a discount. I’ve done that with Comcast like 3 times. I've tried that and had no success unfortunately. I'm worried that if I switch away I'll lose all of the stuff on my DVR, which includes the Wild Card game and a lot of post game stuff on other networks and I also have a lot of that type of stuff from 2018 that I value immensely.
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Post by aznpopsical on Oct 10, 2021 12:49:05 GMT -5
*cough* try streaming *cough cough*
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 10, 2021 12:53:29 GMT -5
How on earth is an MLB playoff game not on major network? This is lunacy. the people that run the modern world are incredibly greedy
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Post by incandenza on Oct 10, 2021 13:02:39 GMT -5
How on earth is an MLB playoff game not on major network? This is lunacy. the people that run the modern world are incredibly greedy Not just incredibly greedy, but stupidly greedy. If they cared about the state of the game even 10 years from now, when they'll presumably still have money on the line, they wouldn't be pinching every penny now by making their product less readily available to a wide audience.
(See also: the behavior of economic elites as a whole, who would gladly watch the world burn in five years if it improves the bottom line on the next quarterly report.)
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Post by foreverred9 on Oct 10, 2021 13:03:28 GMT -5
How on earth is an MLB playoff game not on major network? This is lunacy. the people that run the modern world are incredibly greedy What's really frustrating is that in the local market they aren't simulcasting it. My cable provider doesn't even give me the option to purchase MLB network. As a reminder, this is another way MLB is generating more revenues without passing them through to the players.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 10, 2021 13:04:40 GMT -5
the people that run the modern world are incredibly greedy What's really frustrating is that in the local market they aren't simulcasting it. My cable provider doesn't even give me the option to purchase MLB network. As a reminder, this is another way MLB is generating more revenues without passing them through to the players. Same problem here.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 10, 2021 13:20:40 GMT -5
Decision today, who bats 7th, Renfroe or Dalbec? Latter lineup has Schwarber in LF and Dugie in RF. (Cora has said he's sticking with the same 1 through 6).
Well, Rasmussen is essentially a two-pitch guy, FB and slider, and Dalbec has hit the slider hard since he got "hot" while the slider is the go-to pitch to get Renfroe out. So the facts that that Renfroe is struggling right now and that he hasn't hit Rasmussen in his 6 PA are just gravy. Rasmussen's strong numbers against the Sox in the 64 PA against him are warped by the guys not on the postseason roster -- 12 PA (19% of the total), .087 xwOBA, .104 wOBA. Against the guys on the roster, he's .319, .305, which is average pitching with good defense and a little karma. Only 6 guys have faced him 6 or more times and 5 are on the Sox.
Matchups of 8 PA are barely meaningful, but collectively this is interesting: Name PA wOBA xwOBA Schwarber, Kyle 5 .176 .246 Hernandez, Enr. 6 .377 .372 Devers, Rafael 8 .352 .353 Bogaerts, Xand. 4 .346 .507 Verdugo, Alex 6 .615 .311 Martinez, J.D. 9 .195 .265 Dalbec, Bobby 1 .000 .000 Plawecki, Kevin 2 .000 .281 Renfroe, Hunter 6 .207 .258 Vazquez, Chris. 5 .352 .326 We've got some hitters who are going well who have already handled him well ... lined up.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 10, 2021 13:29:57 GMT -5
Decision today, who bats 7th, Renfroe or Dalbec? Latter lineup has Schwarber in LF and Dugie in RF. (Cora has said he's sticking with the same 1 through 6).
Well, Rasmussen is essentially a two-pitch guy, FB and slider, and Dalbec has hit the slider hard since he got "hot" while the slider is the go-to pitch to get Renfroe out. So the facts that that Renfroe is struggling right now and that he hasn't hit Rasmussen in his 6 PA are just gravy. Rasmussen's strong numbers against the Sox in the 64 PA against him are warped by the guys not on the postseason roster -- 12 PA (19% of the total), .087 xwOBA, .104 wOBA. Against the guys on the roster, he's .319, .305, which is average pitching with good defense and a little karma. Only 6 guys have faced him 6 or more times and 5 are on the Sox.
Matchups of 8 PA are barely meaningful, but collectively this is interesting: Name PA wOBA xwOBA Schwarber, Kyle 5 .176 .246 Hernandez, Enr. 6 .377 .372 Devers, Rafael 8 .352 .353 Bogaerts, Xand. 4 .346 .507 Verdugo, Alex 6 .615 .311 Martinez, J.D. 9 .195 .265 Dalbec, Bobby 1 .000 .000 Plawecki, Kevin 2 .000 .281 Renfroe, Hunter 6 .207 .258 Vazquez, Chris. 5 .352 .326 We've got some hitters who are going well who have already handled him well ... lined up.
I’m very surprised you think throwing Dalbec out there vs a tough righty with a good fastball is worth considering.
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Post by benzinger on Oct 10, 2021 13:31:13 GMT -5
How on earth is an MLB playoff game not on major network? This is lunacy. You can always count on MLB to do the opposite of the right thing. Most of these games are buried on obscure networks nobody watches anyway, but a high-profile game being on the MLB network is a major miscalculation.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 10, 2021 13:32:56 GMT -5
Decision today, who bats 7th, Renfroe or Dalbec? Latter lineup has Schwarber in LF and Dugie in RF. (Cora has said he's sticking with the same 1 through 6).
Well, Rasmussen is essentially a two-pitch guy, FB and slider, and Dalbec has hit the slider hard since he got "hot" while the slider is the go-to pitch to get Renfroe out. So the facts that that Renfroe is struggling right now and that he hasn't hit Rasmussen in his 6 PA are just gravy. Rasmussen's strong numbers against the Sox in the 64 PA against him are warped by the guys not on the postseason roster -- 12 PA (19% of the total), .087 xwOBA, .104 wOBA. Against the guys on the roster, he's .319, .305, which is average pitching with good defense and a little karma. Only 6 guys have faced him 6 or more times and 5 are on the Sox.
Matchups of 8 PA are barely meaningful, but collectively this is interesting: Name PA wOBA xwOBA Schwarber, Kyle 5 .176 .246 Hernandez, Enr. 6 .377 .372 Devers, Rafael 8 .352 .353 Bogaerts, Xand. 4 .346 .507 Verdugo, Alex 6 .615 .311 Martinez, J.D. 9 .195 .265 Dalbec, Bobby 1 .000 .000 Plawecki, Kevin 2 .000 .281 Renfroe, Hunter 6 .207 .258 Vazquez, Chris. 5 .352 .326 We've got some hitters who are going well who have already handled him well ... lined up.
Yeah, well, they're going with Renfroe.
Personally I'd rather they get Dalbec a little more involved. They don't seem to trust him at all against any hard-throwing righties, but with his much-improved strike zone management I think he has the ability to work around that issue by fouling balls off (as he did in his last AB on Friday) and waiting for his pitch. It's not like Renfroe is so amazing against righties.
(NB: When questioning Cora's lineups, I have been wrong ~100% of the time.)
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Post by benzinger on Oct 10, 2021 13:33:28 GMT -5
Hopefully we're not getting Jim Kaat announcing this one. And that 40 acres comment the other day was so cringey. I don’t know how Jack Morris got suspended but not Jim Kaat when Kaat’s comment was explicitly racist… He said something stupid, but didn’t come within 100 miles of Jimmy The Greek. Now THAT was some serious racist content. Kaat is just a moron. This tendency to get overly insulted(pretending to be overly insulted?) over everything at all times is just so tiresome.
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Post by manfred on Oct 10, 2021 13:35:10 GMT -5
Radio it is! Just like granpa done!
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ericmvan
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 10, 2021 13:42:16 GMT -5
Decision today, who bats 7th, Renfroe or Dalbec? Latter lineup has Schwarber in LF and Dugie in RF. (Cora has said he's sticking with the same 1 through 6).
Well, Rasmussen is essentially a two-pitch guy, FB and slider, and Dalbec has hit the slider hard since he got "hot" while the slider is the go-to pitch to get Renfroe out. So the facts that that Renfroe is struggling right now and that he hasn't hit Rasmussen in his 6 PA are just gravy. Rasmussen's strong numbers against the Sox in the 64 PA against him are warped by the guys not on the postseason roster -- 12 PA (19% of the total), .087 xwOBA, .104 wOBA. Against the guys on the roster, he's .319, .305, which is average pitching with good defense and a little karma. Only 6 guys have faced him 6 or more times and 5 are on the Sox.
Matchups of 8 PA are barely meaningful, but collectively this is interesting: Name PA wOBA xwOBA Schwarber, Kyle 5 .176 .246 Hernandez, Enr. 6 .377 .372 Devers, Rafael 8 .352 .353 Bogaerts, Xand. 4 .346 .507 Verdugo, Alex 6 .615 .311 Martinez, J.D. 9 .195 .265 Dalbec, Bobby 1 .000 .000 Plawecki, Kevin 2 .000 .281 Renfroe, Hunter 6 .207 .258 Vazquez, Chris. 5 .352 .326 We've got some hitters who are going well who have already handled him well ... lined up.
Yeah, well, they're going with Renfroe.
Personally I'd rather they get Dalbec a little more involved. They don't seem to trust him at all against any hard-throwing righties, but with his much-improved strike zone management I think he has the ability to work around that issue by fouling balls off (as he did in his last AB on Friday) and waiting for his pitch. It's not like Renfroe is so amazing against righties.
(NB: When questioning Cora's lineups, I have been wrong ~100% of the time.)
Let's hope that this meant that Renfroe took some serious BP yesterday and they think they've fixed a flaw. That might be enough to go with the better defensive OF.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 10, 2021 13:46:25 GMT -5
*cough* try streaming *cough cough* LOL. Even though some of us might be "old timers" i think we know what streaming is. The larger point is that it seems a weird way to market your game. Make watching it as difficult as you can. i think the guys have pointed out, they can't even get MLB Network. I checked, this is the only remaining game they are going to cover. I tried last week downloading the app. I tried using a buddy's satellite account. it wasn't easy and i gave up trying. is that what a business should want ? I may decide to sign up for Sling or Fubo in the next hour, well see.
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