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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 10, 2021 21:04:58 GMT -5
Astros just scored - 6-6
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Post by joemayosparty on Oct 10, 2021 21:06:11 GMT -5
Vasgerian called the home run right before it happened After an evening of, for my tastes, trivial nonsense, "He's only the fourth lefthanded outfielder to reach second base in his first playoff series since 2003", Vasgerian made up for it with that call.
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Post by Canseco on Oct 10, 2021 21:07:15 GMT -5
It’s also safe to say we won the Brandon Workman trade.
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 10, 2021 21:10:11 GMT -5
It’s also safe to say we won the Brandon Workman trade. Don’t forget Heater!
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Post by mobaz on Oct 10, 2021 21:12:32 GMT -5
Listen, we have to make the WS just because all the remaining AL teams are so deplorable! It'd be awful for any of the rest of them to make it.
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Post by lostinnewjersey on Oct 10, 2021 21:12:48 GMT -5
Vazquez hit the eventual game-winning HR vs. the Yankees in Game 4 three years ago. He loves the ALDS.
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Post by mobaz on Oct 10, 2021 21:13:36 GMT -5
Vazquez hit the eventual game-winning HR vs. the Yankees in Game 4 three years ago. He loves the ALDS. He was so happy! He looks like he loves it here so much.
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Post by tizzle on Oct 10, 2021 21:15:00 GMT -5
Third best catcher in team history Bob Montgomery on line 3 to state his case.
EDIT: Just checked and Jimmie Foxx caught 42 games for the Sox...
I'd take Gedman all day, every day. There were a couple of old time players who belong on the list too.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Oct 10, 2021 21:16:09 GMT -5
Third best catcher in team history Bob Montgomery on line 3 to state his case.
EDIT: Just checked and Jimmie Foxx caught 42 games for the Sox...
EDIT part deux: They've had surprisingly few great catchers. However, Bill Carrigan (1906-16) had 13.2 career bWAR to Christian's 4.9 career bWAR. Rough Bill also took three WS rings home to Lewiston, Me....
EDIT the 3rd: I'm almost sorry I found the B-R page that shows every team in history's starting players at every position. I could get lost for hours in there.
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Post by saltalamacchia4mvp on Oct 10, 2021 21:16:20 GMT -5
Feel bad for people who don't enjoy sports, that was fun.
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Post by manfred on Oct 10, 2021 21:16:44 GMT -5
Bob Montgomery on line 3 to state his case.
EDIT: Just checked and Jimmie Foxx caught 42 games for the Sox...
I'd take Gedman all day, every day. There were a couple of old time players who belong on the list too. Before Walt Hriniak vandalized his swing.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Oct 10, 2021 21:18:07 GMT -5
Bob Montgomery on line 3 to state his case.
EDIT: Just checked and Jimmie Foxx caught 42 games for the Sox...
I'd take Gedman all day, every day. There were a couple of old time players who belong on the list too. Geddy played a while but only had 9.6 career bWAR, which is pretty surprising (but still more than Vazquez so far). Brief and shining three-year peak culminating in '86.
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 10, 2021 21:19:40 GMT -5
Also Pivetta threw 140 pitches in the last four days wow
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Post by saltalamacchia4mvp on Oct 10, 2021 21:23:13 GMT -5
My take is we go balls to the wall to try and win tomorrow's game. E-Rod, Sale, Whitlock, and yes I would use Houck if we have a late lead. Like Cora said everyone have your spikes on, lets try not to go back to the Trop if possible. There is an off day in between games 4 and 5.
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 10, 2021 21:24:45 GMT -5
Baseball reference doesn't give Vazquez credit for his pitch framing, which has been worth 5 wins over his career according to Fangraphs. When he came up he was one of the best in the league.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Oct 10, 2021 21:24:46 GMT -5
who do you start tomorrow? ERod? Perez?
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Post by saltalamacchia4mvp on Oct 10, 2021 21:27:21 GMT -5
who do you start tomorrow? ERod? Perez? You're probably going to see a bit of everyone tomorrow, same kind of thing with the Rays. Id start with E-Rod, see how he looks, and then go from there.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 10, 2021 21:27:24 GMT -5
The Astros White Sox is pretty wild - big time controversial call there just now - 8-6 ChiSox, Grienke his first post season relief appearance, lots of traffic on the bases
now 9-6, still no one out, Chi at bat
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 10, 2021 21:29:15 GMT -5
White Sox babip-ing the Astros to death
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Post by foreverred9 on Oct 10, 2021 21:33:06 GMT -5
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Post by benzinger on Oct 10, 2021 21:37:48 GMT -5
It’s also safe to say we won the Brandon Workman trade. I have been iffy on Pivetta for a while, but he was fantastic tonight when they needed him most. We’ll remember this one for a loooong time.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 10, 2021 21:51:40 GMT -5
I'm really seeing this particular Red Sox team as showing their best when pressure is on - it's a hell of a long season and they did just enough to sneak in (92 wins being a pretty good "just enough"). But now the lights are brighter, and I get a sense they are just having a blast, are really cohesive - definitely a different feel from 2018 or 2013, but leadership is emerging here and there - I've been watching the player post game interviews, and they are really fun. Heroes are emerging from everywhere. I am coming around to the fact that this team may just have "it".
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 10, 2021 21:58:20 GMT -5
I don't get how the Rays didn't get an extra base. Isn't that basically the same as an infielder throwing it into the stands? Think of the homer that went off of Canseco's head. If it didn't bounce off him, it wouldn't have been a homer. Same here, except it also hit the ground and wasn't intentionally knocked out of play.
That is exactly the scenario i was thinking of and why i don' think this was an incorrect call. besides if the runner hadn't touched 3rd is it fair to assume he was going to score. i know runners get extra bases when balls go into dugouts and such, but that is on throwing errors. this was just a weird bounce off a player in the field of play.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 10, 2021 21:58:49 GMT -5
I'm really seeing this particular Red Sox team as showing their best when pressure is on - it's a hell of a long season and they did just enough to sneak in (92 wins being a pretty good "just enough"). But now the lights are brighter, and I get a sense they are just having a blast, are really cohesive - definitely a different feel from 2018 or 2013, but leadership is emerging here and there - I've been watching the player post game interviews, and they are really fun. Heroes are emerging from everywhere. I am coming around to the fact that this team may just have "it". This win was awesome, I was at Fenway today, but that might be a bit strong. The Yankees sweep of the Sox at Fenway was really, really bad and almost cost the team a playoff spot. Also lost 2/3 to the Orioles shortly thereafter. This team also hits into double plays at an insane rate.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 10, 2021 22:02:32 GMT -5
Vazquez has no power this year smh Reverse jinx!
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