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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 15, 2021 17:55:27 GMT -5
Red Sox current thinking could include the Sox pitching prospects and MLB ready starting pitching prospects could tie into this. Whitlock Houck Seabold All ready by 2022. Mata Ward All should be ready by 2023. All of these guys have the potential to fit Eduardo's production and the 5 year deal would have been kind of a payroll speed bump with all these mid to back rotation types in the rotation. The Sox will probably look for a 1 or 2 stop gap type. Manea. Matz. Something like that be my guess. Also. Eduardo for all his reliability, had a hard time coming through in the post season. I couldn't get over that in his time here. One good postseason start and really nothing else. I think that could have been a factor also. Looking for a guy with a higher ceiling in the post-season. Add- Groome figures to be in this equation at some point unless he's traded. I don't think that's completely true. He pitched very well - on zero days rest during Game 4 of the 2018 World Series and pitched shutout ball into the 6th inning. Then Vazquez made a throwing error that brought home the first run and Cora made a bad mistake keeping him in to face Puig, which Cora said he knew was a mistake. He had a terrible start against Tampa in Game 1 of the 2021 ALDS, but pitched very well in Game 4 and then pitched a strong game during Game 3 of the ALCS against Houston, so I guess I don't understand this he can't pitch well in the post-season stuff or only had one good game thing. I mean he's not Beckett or Schilling, but he's hardly Chris Sale or David Price pre 2018 ALCS/World Series.
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Post by juanpena on Nov 15, 2021 18:16:56 GMT -5
Also. Eduardo for all his reliability, had a hard time coming through in the post season. I couldn't get over that in his time here. One good postseason start and really nothing else. I think that could have been a factor also. Looking for a guy with a higher ceiling in the post-season. He made four postseason starts. Three of them, I think, were really good. His first one against the Rays this year was bad, his second against the Rays, and the one against the Astros was good, with the three runs coming on one bad pitch when he was ahead 9-0. The start against the Dodgers in the 2018 World Series was MUCH better than the numbers indicate. If Vazquez makes a good throw to first, they get a double play and he pitches six scoreless innings. Instead, Vazquez's bad throw let the Dodgers take the lead, and Cora -- IMO, foolishly -- left him in to face Puig with a righty ready, and he gave up the three-run homer.
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Post by incandenza on Nov 15, 2021 18:19:25 GMT -5
How will people feel if the top three is: Sale Eovaldi 2022 equivalent of a Garrett Richards cheap flyer Because that could happen too. Given that Richards was worth only 1 fWAR, it would require the Red Sox to trade Whitlock (1.6), Houck (2.2) and Pivetta (2.2). That would upset me. But bringing back Richards on a cheap deal to me the 6th starter or long man wouldn't be a bad move at all. Pivetta, incidentally, with his 4.28 FIP and 4.42 steamer projection for 2022, is a good example of a 2 WAR pitcher - i.e., what the Tigers just paid Eduardo Rodriguez to be over the next 2 or 5 years.
ADD: Rodriguez has a career postseason FIP of 3.74 and a career postseason ERA of 6.35, and can we all just save ourselves some time by assuming that everything who thought he pitched well this season also thinks he's been fine in the playoffs and everyone who thinks he sucked this season also thinks he's sucked in the playoffs?
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 15, 2021 18:51:15 GMT -5
I disagree. How many teams win the World Series without having a true ace? I'm sure it happens but great pitching wins in October and that is the Sox aim. Who knows maybe that is why they let ERod go, they have their eyes set on a bigger prize. Either way I really hope your opinion isn't the case moving forward. I just don't think that meshes well with the strategy of being a WS contender every season. Unless they start trading the Yorkes, Mayers and Casas's from the farm system to land a top 10 pitching prospect or 2 how else are they going to get an ace. Utility of a top pitcher aside, the World Series just ended less than two weeks ago, and the Atlanta Braves won it. Maybe you should have highlighted the next sentence also. Does 4.7 war qualify as an ace?
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 15, 2021 18:59:36 GMT -5
Given that Richards was worth only 1 fWAR, it would require the Red Sox to trade Whitlock (1.6), Houck (2.2) and Pivetta (2.2). That would upset me. But bringing back Richards on a cheap deal to me the 6th starter or long man wouldn't be a bad move at all. Pivetta, incidentally, with his 4.28 FIP and 4.42 steamer projection for 2022, is a good example of a 2 WAR pitcher - i.e., what the Tigers just paid Eduardo Rodriguez to be over the next 2 or 5 years.
ADD: Rodriguez has a career postseason FIP of 3.74 and a career postseason ERA of 6.35, and can we all just save ourselves some time by assuming that everything who thought he pitched well this season also thinks he's been fine in the playoffs and everyone who thinks he sucked this season also thinks he's sucked in the playoffs?
I find it interesting that 95% of projections I see have a player regressing from the previous years numbers.
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Post by saltalamacchia4mvp on Nov 15, 2021 21:09:06 GMT -5
Red Sox current thinking could include the Sox pitching prospects and MLB ready starting pitching prospects could tie into this. Whitlock Houck Seabold All ready by 2022. Mata Ward All should be ready by 2023. All of these guys have the potential to fit Eduardo's production and the 5 year deal would have been kind of a payroll speed bump with all these mid to back rotation types in the rotation. The Sox will probably look for a 1 or 2 stop gap type. Manea. Matz. Something like that be my guess. Also. Eduardo for all his reliability, had a hard time coming through in the post season. I couldn't get over that in his time here. One good postseason start and really nothing else. I think that could have been a factor also. Looking for a guy with a higher ceiling in the post-season. Add- Groome figures to be in this equation at some point unless he's traded. Completely agree - for the first time in a long time we're going to have cheap options to plug into the rotation. I've said it the past few weeks that it's better to sign a FA pitcher short term and re-evaluate what you have going forward. Having Scherzer or Verlander would be very nice, but we'll see what happens. Maybe we'll see them trade for a pitcher and spend big on a free agent SS to help the defense, there's many different possibilities.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 15, 2021 21:25:00 GMT -5
so getting to the ALCS and almost to the WS this year does not mean anything for you? When literally everyone in baseball though this team would finish in the basement of the AL east? jeez I mean, Ben Cherington won an WS and I still think he was a crap GM. So yeah, I am waiting to see what happens over the next 2-3 years. For all I know Henry and friends told him to stay under the lux tax forevah. So far what I've seen was: - 2019, a.k.a. "The Year of Crap." - 2020 a.k.a. "The Big Mulligan" for everyone - does not figure into the calculus. - 2021 a.k.a. "The Amazing Run," which was either a massive overachievement by the players, pure genius by Bloom or somewhere in between. The next 2 to 3 years will determine if I trust this guy or he's just another B.C. type. And yes, I'm skeptical by nature and try to avoid recency bias and blind faith in almost anything. The craziest part of Bloom and the 2019 team is that he was able to direct it while still a member of the Rays organization. You need to give him some credit for multi-tasking, no?
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Post by beasleyrockah on Nov 15, 2021 22:42:01 GMT -5
Usually I’d agree with people concerned with giving five years to a free agent pitcher, but the years aren’t that scary at Erod’s age and AAV. There’s some risk in case of injury, but I would’ve been very happy if the Red Sox brought him back at that contract. I have a hard time seeing better options on the free agent market at their projected price tags, so hopefully Bloom can find value in a trade.
Also, the crowd that constantly complained about Erod during his time here will very likely complain even more about whoever inevitably replaces him.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Nov 15, 2021 22:56:44 GMT -5
I’m glad the Red Sox got a draft pick from him. Ceiling of a 2, but utterly unreliable. Starting pitching is a question mark though, but I think it has a chance to be very good with Houck, Whitlock, Sale, Pivetta, Seabold, and Eovaldi plus I’m sure they’ll acquire a guy that’s low risk, high reward like a Verlander type.
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 15, 2021 23:13:21 GMT -5
I’m glad the Red Sox got a draft pick from him. Ceiling of a 2, but utterly unreliable. Starting pitching is a question mark though, but I think it has a chance to be very good with Houck, Whitlock, Sale, Pivetta, Seabold, and Eovaldi plus I’m sure they’ll acquire a guy that’s low risk, high reward like a Verlander type. Verlander is going to cost a pick and most likely get 20+ million for 2+ years. In my mind I dont classify him as low risk. He'd have to pitch as well as he did last time he was healthy to be close to worth the contract he's going to get and that's not a gamble I feel the sox should be making. I do agree overall the rotation has a chance to be solid and even with erod leaving I like the way it looks more so than last opening day with richards and perez in it and Sale instead of erod and there's still basically a full offseason to add more options which I certainly expect.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 15, 2021 23:29:03 GMT -5
I’m glad the Red Sox got a draft pick from him. Ceiling of a 2, but utterly unreliable. Starting pitching is a question mark though, but I think it has a chance to be very good with Houck, Whitlock, Sale, Pivetta, Seabold, and Eovaldi plus I’m sure they’ll acquire a guy that’s low risk, high reward like a Verlander type. Verlander is going to cost a pick and most likely get 20+ million for 2+ years. In my mind I dont classify him as low risk. He'd have to pitch as well as he did last time he was healthy to be close to worth the contract he's going to get and that's not a gamble I feel the sox should be making. I do agree overall the rotation has a chance to be solid and even with erod leaving I like the way it looks more so than last opening day with richards and perez in it and Sale instead of erod and there's still basically a full offseason to add more options which I certainly expect. I dont see the Sox spending big bucks on a starter. Matz is a possibility and perhaps 2022 is the year Rich Hill returns to the Sox again. It sounds like the Sox aren't going to spend on the rotation. They'll probably use the money to bring Schwarber back and get a bunch of bullpen arms, including a closer.
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Post by baseball3 on Nov 16, 2021 6:19:11 GMT -5
Red Sox current thinking could include the Sox pitching prospects and MLB ready starting pitching prospects could tie into this. Whitlock Houck Seabold All ready by 2022. Mata Ward All should be ready by 2023. All of these guys have the potential to fit Eduardo's production and the 5 year deal would have been kind of a payroll speed bump with all these mid to back rotation types in the rotation. The Sox will probably look for a 1 or 2 stop gap type. Manea. Matz. Something like that be my guess. Also. Eduardo for all his reliability, had a hard time coming through in the post season. I couldn't get over that in his time here. One good postseason start and really nothing else. I think that could have been a factor also. Looking for a guy with a higher ceiling in the post-season. Add- Groome figures to be in this equation at some point unless he's traded. I don't think that's completely true. He pitched very well - on zero days rest during Game 4 of the 2018 World Series and pitched shutout ball into the 6th inning. Then Vazquez made a throwing error that brought home the first run and Cora made a bad mistake keeping him in to face Puig, which Cora said he knew was a mistake. He had a terrible start against Tampa in Game 1 of the 2021 ALDS, but pitched very well in Game 4 and then pitched a strong game during Game 3 of the ALCS against Houston, so I guess I don't understand this he can't pitch well in the post-season stuff or only had one good game thing. I mean he's not Beckett or Schilling, but he's hardly Chris Sale or David Price pre 2018 ALCS/World Series. You got a really good memory first off. I'm lucky I can remember a Red Sox game a month ago. You remembered that from 3 years ago. Still, that's 3 post-season starts you remember. Which tells me that there wasn't many post-season starts in there because the Sox didn't trust him to get multiple starts or there were better options in the rotation at the time. All kind of a knock on Eddy sort of. Even then, you can argue 1 bad. 1 good. 1 mediocre start (after you pointed out that Cora left him in long). My gut never really trusted him, but admittedly I'm not a talent evaluater. I just kind of felt Eduardo was worse than a coin flip chance of being good in the post-season when he came in.
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Post by baseball3 on Nov 16, 2021 6:22:43 GMT -5
Red Sox current thinking could include the Sox pitching prospects and MLB ready starting pitching prospects could tie into this. Whitlock Houck Seabold All ready by 2022. Mata Ward All should be ready by 2023. All of these guys have the potential to fit Eduardo's production and the 5 year deal would have been kind of a payroll speed bump with all these mid to back rotation types in the rotation. The Sox will probably look for a 1 or 2 stop gap type. Manea. Matz. Something like that be my guess. Also. Eduardo for all his reliability, had a hard time coming through in the post season. I couldn't get over that in his time here. One good postseason start and really nothing else. I think that could have been a factor also. Looking for a guy with a higher ceiling in the post-season. Add- Groome figures to be in this equation at some point unless he's traded. Completely agree - for the first time in a long time we're going to have cheap options to plug into the rotation. I've said it the past few weeks that it's better to sign a FA pitcher short term and re-evaluate what you have going forward. Having Scherzer or Verlander would be very nice, but we'll see what happens. Maybe we'll see them trade for a pitcher and spend big on a free agent SS to help the defense, there's many different possibilities. Yeah it definitely factors in, I think. I think you can bank on 2 of the Houck, Whitlock, and Seabold being full time starters in MLB. I think Mata is a starter, too. Whitlock has the highest ceiling but they're all strong and talented enough to go through 2 times through an order. It's exciting to see young starting pitching to be part of the equation moving forward.
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Post by jimoh on Nov 16, 2021 7:22:57 GMT -5
Houck and Whitlock pitched about 70 innings last year. Conventional wisdom about workloads suggest it would be risky to have them pitch more than 100-120 innings next year.
I think the Red Sox may well sign a position player or two and trade for an arm.
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Post by jimgosger on Nov 16, 2021 7:25:17 GMT -5
Completely agree - for the first time in a long time we're going to have cheap options to plug into the rotation. I've said it the past few weeks that it's better to sign a FA pitcher short term and re-evaluate what you have going forward. Having Scherzer or Verlander would be very nice, but we'll see what happens. Maybe we'll see them trade for a pitcher and spend big on a free agent SS to help the defense, there's many different possibilities. Yeah it definitely factors in, I think. I think you can bank on 2 of the Houck, Whitlock, and Seabold being full time starters in MLB. I think Mata is a starter, too. Whitlock has the highest ceiling but they're all strong and talented enough to go through 2 times through an order. It's exciting to see young starting pitching to be part of the equation moving forward. I wouldn't count on Seabold for anything this year. His recovery from his "forearm injury" has not brought him back to the velo he had before the injury. I wouldn't be shocked if he required surgery. If he recovers more and pitches well that would be a bonus, not something to rely on. Bloom et al have contingency plans for practically everything we can think of (except maybe a global pandemic). You can be sure they have a plan in place for Erod leaving since there was a decent chance that it would happen. Personally I think one of those plans is to go over the CBT by around the $19 million that the end of Price's contract will give us next year. Penalties for going over for one year are not great. That leads me to believe they will spend on a solid rotation piece (Matz, Verlander) or trade for one. They won't just count on Houck and Whitlock and a low level gamble. That's so 2020.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 16, 2021 7:37:21 GMT -5
Red Sox current thinking could include the Sox pitching prospects and MLB ready starting pitching prospects could tie into this. Whitlock Houck Seabold All ready by 2022. Mata Ward All should be ready by 2023. All of these guys have the potential to fit Eduardo's production and the 5 year deal would have been kind of a payroll speed bump with all these mid to back rotation types in the rotation. The Sox will probably look for a 1 or 2 stop gap type. Manea. Matz. Something like that be my guess. Also. Eduardo for all his reliability, had a hard time coming through in the post season. I couldn't get over that in his time here. One good postseason start and really nothing else. I think that could have been a factor also. Looking for a guy with a higher ceiling in the post-season. Add- Groome figures to be in this equation at some point unless he's traded. Although I love your optimism and would like to believe that the Sox have what it takes to build a solid rotation within their farm system I have my doubts. Maybe Whitlock and Houck can become solid and Seabold could also possibly be something valuable which would all be great. But you include Mata and Ward with the mention of 2023 and being ready. Ready for what, double A. Neither Mata or Ward has been successful beyond high A and they are coming off TJ surgery. It would be awesome if they get back on their path to the majors but that path doesn't look like it will be 2023. Groome on the other hand I think could surprise and be a factor sooner rather than later.
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Post by baseball3 on Nov 16, 2021 8:07:50 GMT -5
Red Sox current thinking could include the Sox pitching prospects and MLB ready starting pitching prospects could tie into this. Whitlock Houck Seabold All ready by 2022. Mata Ward All should be ready by 2023. All of these guys have the potential to fit Eduardo's production and the 5 year deal would have been kind of a payroll speed bump with all these mid to back rotation types in the rotation. The Sox will probably look for a 1 or 2 stop gap type. Manea. Matz. Something like that be my guess. Also. Eduardo for all his reliability, had a hard time coming through in the post season. I couldn't get over that in his time here. One good postseason start and really nothing else. I think that could have been a factor also. Looking for a guy with a higher ceiling in the post-season. Add- Groome figures to be in this equation at some point unless he's traded. Although I love your optimism and would like to believe that the Sox have what it takes to build a solid rotation within their farm system I have my doubts. Maybe Whitlock and Houck can become solid and Seabold could also possibly be something valuable which would all be great. But you include Mata and Ward with the mention of 2023 and being ready. Ready for what, double A. Neither Mata or Ward has been successful beyond high A and they are coming off TJ surgery. It would be awesome if they get back on their path to the majors but that path doesn't look like it will be 2023. Groome on the other hand I think could surprise and be a factor sooner rather than later. Both Mata and Ward coming back this year at some point. Probably AA in 2022. Then AFL most likely. Half seasons in AAA and they could be up in 2023, pretty reasonable outcome. Of course this is all depending on performance and how they bounce back from injuries. The talent is there, however.
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Post by baseball3 on Nov 16, 2021 8:14:54 GMT -5
I also forgot to add Bryan Bello to this list of potential starting prospects on the horizon. Admittedly he could be a reliever or starter, however.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Nov 16, 2021 8:41:33 GMT -5
I’m glad the Red Sox got a draft pick from him. Ceiling of a 2, but utterly unreliable. Starting pitching is a question mark though, but I think it has a chance to be very good with Houck, Whitlock, Sale, Pivetta, Seabold, and Eovaldi plus I’m sure they’ll acquire a guy that’s low risk, high reward like a Verlander type. Verlander is going to cost a pick and most likely get 20+ million for 2+ years. In my mind I dont classify him as low risk. He'd have to pitch as well as he did last time he was healthy to be close to worth the contract he's going to get and that's not a gamble I feel the sox should be making. I do agree overall the rotation has a chance to be solid and even with erod leaving I like the way it looks more so than last opening day with richards and perez in it and Sale instead of erod and there's still basically a full offseason to add more options which I certainly expect. My mistake, I didn't realize he was QO and that he believes he's still worth that much. I thought I had read an article of him trying to prove he can still play at a high level and took that the wrong way. Overall, I still think E-Rod is a guy you walk away from to continue this path of rebuilding the pipeline. I like the young rotation and agree we're better off without Perez or Richards. Also, dark horse contributer could be Jay Groome. I'm still very high on the kid and think he'll be ready to contribute by the 2nd half in a Houck kind of role, or at the very least a helpful spot starter. Josh Winckowski is another guy who should be able to help.
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Post by mobaz on Nov 16, 2021 9:27:43 GMT -5
Houck and Whitlock pitched about 70 innings last year. Conventional wisdom about workloads suggest it would be risky to have them pitch more than 100-120 innings next year. I think the Red Sox may well sign a position player or two and trade for an arm. Just to clarify, Houck had 20 innings in Woosta, and 10 playoff innings, so he's really at 100. Whitlock had another 8 in the playoffs and is over 80. I don't think 120-140 is too big a jump for either. Pivetta and E-Rod (we will miss you) had 155 each in full seasons.
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Post by juanpena on Nov 16, 2021 10:02:37 GMT -5
Although I love your optimism and would like to believe that the Sox have what it takes to build a solid rotation within their farm system I have my doubts. Maybe Whitlock and Houck can become solid and Seabold could also possibly be something valuable which would all be great. But you include Mata and Ward with the mention of 2023 and being ready. Ready for what, double A. Neither Mata or Ward has been successful beyond high A and they are coming off TJ surgery. It would be awesome if they get back on their path to the majors but that path doesn't look like it will be 2023. Groome on the other hand I think could surprise and be a factor sooner rather than later. Both Mata and Ward coming back this year at some point. Probably AA in 2022. Then AFL most likely. Half seasons in AAA and they could be up in 2023, pretty reasonable outcome. Of course this is all depending on performance and how they bounce back from injuries. The talent is there, however. Mata had his surgery on April 3, 2021. Sale, Syndergaard and Severino all had TJ in late March of 2020, and Sale's abbreviated, rusty comeback was the best of the 3. Ward had his operation on June 3, 2021. He's most likely not throwing a pitch anywhere until 2023.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 16, 2021 10:21:51 GMT -5
I don't think that's completely true. He pitched very well - on zero days rest during Game 4 of the 2018 World Series and pitched shutout ball into the 6th inning. Then Vazquez made a throwing error that brought home the first run and Cora made a bad mistake keeping him in to face Puig, which Cora said he knew was a mistake. He had a terrible start against Tampa in Game 1 of the 2021 ALDS, but pitched very well in Game 4 and then pitched a strong game during Game 3 of the ALCS against Houston, so I guess I don't understand this he can't pitch well in the post-season stuff or only had one good game thing. I mean he's not Beckett or Schilling, but he's hardly Chris Sale or David Price pre 2018 ALCS/World Series. You got a really good memory first off. I'm lucky I can remember a Red Sox game a month ago. You remembered that from 3 years ago. Still, that's 3 post-season starts you remember. Which tells me that there wasn't many post-season starts in there because the Sox didn't trust him to get multiple starts or there were better options in the rotation at the time. All kind of a knock on Eddy sort of. Even then, you can argue 1 bad. 1 good. 1 mediocre start (after you pointed out that Cora left him in long). My gut never really trusted him, but admittedly I'm not a talent evaluater. I just kind of felt Eduardo was worse than a coin flip chance of being good in the post-season when he came in. You don't have to remember, as it's quite easy to look up: www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=rodried05&t=p&year=0&post=1In 2018 he was the fifth starter behind Sale, Price, Porcello, and Eovaldi, so of course he only got the one start. I'm not sure that's a knock on 2018 Eduardo Rodriguez. It's actually quite impressive that he was any good in the WS start given he'd thrown about 78 pitches over the prior month. Then they missed the playoffs in 2019 and he was out in 2020 even if they had made the playoffs. He was good in 2 of 3 starts this year. I'm not quite sure what more you want out of him. Houck and Whitlock pitched about 70 innings last year. Conventional wisdom about workloads suggest it would be risky to have them pitch more than 100-120 innings next year. I think the Red Sox may well sign a position player or two and trade for an arm. Just to clarify, Houck had 20 innings in Woosta, and 10 playoff innings, so he's really at 100. Whitlock had another 8 in the playoffs and is over 80. I don't think 120-140 is too big a jump for either. Pivetta and E-Rod (we will miss you) had 155 each in full seasons. FWIW, and this is for everyone not just mobaz, the whole Verducci theory thing about ramping up innings by more than 50 or whatever it was has been debunked at this point. Yes, they need to monitor workload, but as I've said elsewhere, if the Verducci theory were a thing, literally every starter in baseball would be headed to Drs. Andrews and ElAttrache next year. Eduardo Rodriguez's arm would've fallen off sometime in August, etc. The key is, as I understand it, workload in smaller periods. At one point the team was apparently monitoring pitches over a three-start span for their pitchers. I don't think there's any reason to think Houck couldn't give them 160-180 next year, and Whitlock probably isn't terribly far behind that.
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Post by mobaz on Nov 16, 2021 10:31:44 GMT -5
Just to clarify, Houck had 20 innings in Woosta, and 10 playoff innings, so he's really at 100. Whitlock had another 8 in the playoffs and is over 80. I don't think 120-140 is too big a jump for either. Pivetta and E-Rod (we will miss you) had 155 each in full seasons. FWIW, and this is for everyone not just mobaz, the whole Verducci theory thing about ramping up innings by more than 50 or whatever it was has been debunked at this point. Yes, they need to monitor workload, but as I've said elsewhere, if the Verducci theory were a thing, literally every starter in baseball would be headed to Drs. Andrews and ElAttrache next year. Eduardo Rodriguez's arm would've fallen off sometime in August, etc. The key is, as I understand it, workload in smaller periods. At one point the team was apparently monitoring pitches over a three-start span for their pitchers. I don't think there's any reason to think Houck couldn't give them 160-180 next year, and Whitlock probably isn't terribly far behind that. I typed and then deleted "Plus the Verducci Effect is known to be bunk" at the end of my post. With you on that.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Nov 16, 2021 12:04:00 GMT -5
You got a really good memory first off. I'm lucky I can remember a Red Sox game a month ago. You remembered that from 3 years ago. Still, that's 3 post-season starts you remember. Which tells me that there wasn't many post-season starts in there because the Sox didn't trust him to get multiple starts or there were better options in the rotation at the time. All kind of a knock on Eddy sort of. Even then, you can argue 1 bad. 1 good. 1 mediocre start (after you pointed out that Cora left him in long). My gut never really trusted him, but admittedly I'm not a talent evaluater. I just kind of felt Eduardo was worse than a coin flip chance of being good in the post-season when he came in. there is no one who has a better memory than Champs....i get amazed by it, honestly. I am with you, I would never be a good eyewitness. LOL.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Nov 16, 2021 12:12:15 GMT -5
The thing with ERod is that, while I was always happy he was on the staff and thought he did a great job for us while here, there was always a feeling it could have been more. Maybe that isn't fair to him. There is a chance for him to take off with Detroit, but if I had to bet he will be more of the same for them. No shame in his ability to pitch.
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