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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 13, 2022 11:20:05 GMT -5
Glad to see that win - hoping we avoid the great season/awful season flip flop thing - that can sorta settle in. Let's get to .500 and then take off!
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Post by manfred on Apr 13, 2022 11:23:46 GMT -5
Actually: Even before these five games you were clamoring for everyone to agree that the Sox are doomed while you continuously state your hope that they will succeed. It is only 5 games. Please stop clamoring. Breathe in slowly through the nose. Exhale. Repeat. The overwhelming majority on this board have NOT been worried about this OF, certainly not to the level you continue to state. Many hoped for a Suzuki to replace Renfroe. That didnât happen. But with Dugo, Kiké and JBJ it is better defensively than 2021, especially with the former two settling into their positions this season. Perseveration about Mookie and Beni is giving me a headache. Defensively this OF is very, very strong, arguably among the best, NOT among the worst. At Raffyâs tender age, Verdugo has already established himself as a very good hitter and it looks like Kiké is getting back in the swing after just 5 freaking games which are, in fact, extensions of a short ST. Over the years we have seen JBJ carry the Sox on his back for stretches and then roll over into the shift for stretches. He is an outstanding defender and our #9 hitter in an otherwise very strong lineup. Again. Take a deep breath. And finally Arroyo, Duran, Refsnyder and others provide reasonable 4th, 5th, 6th OF depth. Others will be available before the trade deadline. Breathe. I never said they were doomed. I have them at 90 wins. Again, it is hardly incompatible to say it is a generally good team and point to areas they could be better. No team with X, JDM, Raffy, and now Story down the middle can be bad.
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Post by benzinger on Apr 13, 2022 11:49:46 GMT -5
I’ll stick with you on this and hope for the best. I’m already alarmed that JBJ has only had 1 season since 2016 that was above replacement level, and that was the short COVID season of 2020. He can be a 1-2 WAR player, but I’m not super-stoked about him. It’s more that Renfroe is overrated and assuming that Jackie won’t be the absolute worst hitter in baseball. If he is again this year then he’s going to get DFA’d and we’re going to have to eat his contract straight up Maybe I’m just too old school, but I think they are really going to miss the 31HR’s and 96RBI’s that they got from Renfroe last season. He has a great arm, too. I know his defense was mediocre overall, but he was really productive last season. I think his disappearing act late in the season/postseason is what everyone remembers best, but he carried that team at times last year. Hard to imagine JBJ even dreaming of doing the same.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 13, 2022 12:00:57 GMT -5
Okay, then I'm back to the point that no one expected Kiké to be the worst CFer in the league. What is the point of this conversation?
Your criticism of the OF construction is reasonable enough on its own; are you going to retract it if JBJ goes 4-4 today and gets his OPS up to .800? Or have you changed your evaluation of Bogaerts because he has a sub-.650 OPS so far? If not then you ought to admit that citing this tiny sample size is totally irrelevant to the discussion.
Whatever. You seem to be making more of this than I am. If a good player gets off to a slow start, I say… let’s wait. If a bad player gets off to a bad start one can say — at once!! — let’s wait but *also* this might indeed be the very problem everyone anticipated. And there are a few options: one, wait until a long record of futility scientifically proves it; or consider making adjustments before it gets out of hand. Maybe the Brewers should trade for a new RF already since Renfroe is batting .118.
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Post by patford on Apr 13, 2022 12:04:32 GMT -5
Whatever. You seem to be making more of this than I am. If a good player gets off to a slow start, I say… let’s wait. If a bad player gets off to a bad start one can say — at once!! — let’s wait but *also* this might indeed be the very problem everyone anticipated. And there are a few options: one, wait until a long record of futility scientifically proves it; or consider making adjustments before it gets out of hand. Maybe the Brewers should trade for a new RF already since Renfroe is batting .118. Maybe the Dodgers should as well since Betts is batting .167.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 13, 2022 12:19:35 GMT -5
Looks like the wind is going to keep this game low-scoring. Blowing in hard from RF, so hurts LHH more, which is an advantage for the Sox, with a RHH lineup.
E-Rod strong in the first inning (although that F9 by Raffy might've been a dong yesterday).
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 13, 2022 12:22:36 GMT -5
Welp, ERod's velocity is back after being down on opening day.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 13, 2022 12:23:59 GMT -5
Eovaldi burned on a hanging split again
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 13, 2022 12:24:44 GMT -5
One guy strong early, one guy shaky.
Second first-inning HR for Nate in 2 starts.
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Post by taiwansox on Apr 13, 2022 12:25:17 GMT -5
Eovaldi burned on a hanging split again I think that was a slider, a little cement mixer
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 13, 2022 12:28:37 GMT -5
Going to get wet soon. Rainout possible? Or at least messing with the pitching plans if a long delay
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 13, 2022 12:34:02 GMT -5
Will Flemming, the king of "how many ballparks was that a homer in?" (I'm pretty sure there's an app) reports that Raffy's F9 would've been a HR in 27 other ballparks, even where it was caught. He didn't say, but I'm guessing that Fenway wasn't one of them.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 13, 2022 12:36:50 GMT -5
The Sox would be well-served to do as much as they can to squeeze as many pitches as they can out of each at-bat. The rain coming is going to be pretty thick: www.wunderground.com/radar/us/oh/dayton
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 13, 2022 12:37:43 GMT -5
Going to get wet soon. Rainout possible? Or at least messing with the pitching plans if a long delay According to my phone, the chance of rain for the next several hours are (local time):
2pm: 90% 3pm: 50% 4pm: 60% 5pm: 30% 6pm: 0%
Sox players are going to love sleeping in their own beds tonight.
EDIT: I rather doubt they'll rain out a day game vs. an opponent outside the division. They could play until 7:30 if they had to.
EDIT part deux: Tigers play in KC tomorrow. They're getting this game in.
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 13, 2022 12:45:11 GMT -5
I would not have possibly wasted Eovaldi today. We have a lot of pitchers. Should have done a bullpen game with an off day tomorrow and started Nathan on the home opener Friday.
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Post by taiwansox on Apr 13, 2022 12:50:17 GMT -5
JBJ is going deep here
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Post by taiwansox on Apr 13, 2022 12:52:50 GMT -5
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Post by taiwansox on Apr 13, 2022 12:54:05 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Apr 13, 2022 12:54:20 GMT -5
Boy heating up
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 13, 2022 12:55:02 GMT -5
Second time through
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Post by taiwansox on Apr 13, 2022 12:57:35 GMT -5
So many center cut fastballs
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Post by Guidas on Apr 13, 2022 12:57:55 GMT -5
Enrique!
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Post by benzinger on Apr 13, 2022 12:59:26 GMT -5
He can’t even go deep into the count.
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Post by manfred on Apr 13, 2022 13:00:42 GMT -5
In a style trade, I’ll take Strahm’s hair over ERod’s earrings, FWIW. Not big on the dangling stuff. Studs? Cool. Hoops? Very cool. Junk on a rope? Pass.
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Post by cdj on Apr 13, 2022 13:06:22 GMT -5
Bobby has come a long way at 1B
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