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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 1, 2022 7:38:39 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 1, 2022 11:50:46 GMT -5
I have paid zero attention to Thomas Pannone but it's now June and he is third in the International League in FIP. What's his story?
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 1, 2022 12:31:35 GMT -5
Born and raised in RI, apparently.
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 1, 2022 13:29:47 GMT -5
Downs with HR #8 on the year. He needs to get his timing back after his brief injury stint (7 Ks in 14 PAs since he got back).
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 1, 2022 13:42:15 GMT -5
German closing against old friend Khalil Lee, with a .625 OPS
weird 9th, Ks the side, but with 2 ks on foul bunt strike 3s, if the gameday is to be believed
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Post by cdj on Jun 1, 2022 14:25:52 GMT -5
German closing against old friend Khalil Lee, with a .625 OPS weird 9th, Ks the side, but with 2 ks on foul bunt strike 3s, if the gameday is to be believed Former Red Sox great Khalil Lee sporting that .188/.305/.297 triple slash with a 34% k-rate in AAA coming into the day 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Sexy I’m pretty content with that flip |
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 1, 2022 15:02:35 GMT -5
 I am a simple man. Any time there's a AAA pitcher with a 9-1 strikeout to walk ratio, I'd like to see him in the big leagues. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 1, 2022 15:26:33 GMT -5
German closing against old friend Khalil Lee, with a .625 OPS weird 9th, Ks the side, but with 2 ks on foul bunt strike 3s, if the gameday is to be believed Former Red Sox great Khalil Lee sporting that .188/.305/.297 triple slash with a 34% k-rate in AAA coming into the day 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Sexy I’m pretty content with that flip Having seen Lee a fair amount the past two years, he was clearly trying to play through an injury in April and was a total mess: 6 for 49 with one extra base hit (a double) and 22 strikeouts. He's been very solid otherwise since the trade, .252/.417/.448 in 133 games (including the awful month). He gets overly passive at the plate sometimes and allows himself to get into pitchers counts, and I'm kinda skeptical overall, but he's got a pretty broad range of skills. I'd probably rank him ahead of Winckowski but it's close enough to a wash. I guess my biggest problem is that, if they were going to flip Lee, they could've done better at the time. |
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Post by cdj on Jun 1, 2022 16:38:01 GMT -5
I am a simple man. Any time there's a AAA pitcher with a 9-1 strikeout to walk ratio, I'd like to see him in the big leagues. Counterpoint he’s a very hittable lefty that throws 90 with an average curveball and a fringe changeup Maybe a spot start here or there |
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Post by foreverred9 on Jun 1, 2022 16:42:46 GMT -5
German closing against old friend Khalil Lee, with a .625 OPS weird 9th, Ks the side, but with 2 ks on foul bunt strike 3s, if the gameday is to be believed It's wrong, I missed the first out but the announcers said he K'd the side looking. The second batter was a fastball on the high-inside corner while Lee was a fastball middle-in. It seemed a good pitch from the camera but I think the angle made it look better than it might have been. Lee argued it and the catcher pulled it back in a bit to frame it. German was throwing hard, 95-97 the entire time according to the NESN gun. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2022 17:48:29 GMT -5
German closing against old friend Khalil Lee, with a .625 OPS weird 9th, Ks the side, but with 2 ks on foul bunt strike 3s, if the gameday is to be believed Former Red Sox great Khalil Lee sporting that .188/.305/.297 triple slash with a 34% k-rate in AAA coming into the day 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Sexy I’m pretty content with that flip yes, Winckowski seems to have more upside… I think he may end up in the bullpen, but hey the Red Sox definitely could use some quality bullpen arms…. |
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Post by radiohix on Jun 1, 2022 19:56:28 GMT -5
Mayer 1-3 with 2 strikeouts
Jordan 1-2 with 2 walks
Would never thought that Blaze's K% will be more than 10 points lower than Mayer's.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 1, 2022 21:05:14 GMT -5
Mayer 1-3 with 2 strikeouts Jordan 1-2 with 2 walks Would never thought that Blaze's K% will be more than 10 points lower than Mayer's. How about Mayer having the better ISOp? |
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Post by orion09 on Jun 1, 2022 22:16:41 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Durbin Feltman?
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 1, 2022 22:38:06 GMT -5
Don’t draft college closers.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 2, 2022 6:03:04 GMT -5
Mayer 1-3 with 2 strikeouts Jordan 1-2 with 2 walks Would never thought that Blaze's K% will be more than 10 points lower than Mayer's. How about Mayer having the better ISOp? Eh, we’re talking about .023 difference here, that what? A two homers game by Jordan to close that gap? On the other hand 10.4 points in Strikeout percentage is a significant.
| K% | IsoP | | Blaze Jordan | 17.9% | .148 | | Marcelo Mayer | 28.3% | .171 |
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 2, 2022 6:44:17 GMT -5
When a corner infielder whose only real carrying tool is his power has a lower Iso than a legit middle infielder who has been injured I'd call it significant.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 2, 2022 7:08:58 GMT -5
Blaze Jordan is the best prospect in the system based on name alone.
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Post by jimoh on Jun 2, 2022 8:18:54 GMT -5
Blaze Jordan is the best prospect in the system based on name alone. For me it's hard to beat his teammate Angel Bastardo. Blaze has a cool first name, but Bastardo's first and last name work together to suggest an existential paradox, or that he could be a character in a novel or a video game. "Who can save us? Our bastard angel!" |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 2, 2022 12:53:52 GMT -5
How about Mayer having the better ISOp? Eh, we’re talking about .023 difference here, that what? A two homers game by Jordan to close that gap? On the other hand 10.4 points in Strikeout percentage is a significant.
| K% | IsoP | | Blaze Jordan | 17.9% | .148 | | Marcelo Mayer | 28.3% | .171 |
I was merely pointing it out as a trivial thing against what I would expect. I don't think it's significant, nor do I think the strikeout thing is yet significant. |
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Post by radiohix on Jun 2, 2022 15:13:59 GMT -5
When a corner infielder whose only real carrying tool is his power has a lower Iso than a legit middle infielder who has been injured I'd call it significant. No it’s not. It would take 3-4 games with multiple XBH for Jordan to clear that .200 IsoP mark but Mayer needs to go 53 consecutive PAs without a K to get to the 17.9%. That’s a lot We could also look at a bigger sample and see how they both did last year in Florida (CPX)
| K% | IsoP | | Blaze Jordan | 17.1% | .304 | | Marcelo Mayer | 25.2% | .165 |
I’ll put it this way: I’m not concerned about Jordan’s lack of power numbers, who I’m not high on to begin with but I’m seriously worried about Mayer’s contact issues when you add in the CPX sample. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 2, 2022 15:25:41 GMT -5
Mayer's K rate is better than the Carolina league average, and he's 19 years old. He's hit like a guy that's going to have a long major league career since he's been drafted.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 2, 2022 15:40:26 GMT -5
Personally I don’t pay attention to a hitting prospect triple slash line, there’s so much noise into that thing (bad fielding, no so perfect infield dirt…). I care first and foremost about the K% /whiff% because it’s by far the most predictive stat, then I look to the IsoP and BB% but I don’t give them the same importance as the mother of all stats lol.
Mayer’s whiff% is 17.2% so far in the CL.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 2, 2022 16:06:30 GMT -5
www.claydavenport.com/ht/MAYER20021212A.shtmlAge-adjusted DT is fine for all his pro ABs combined. His contact stats are not out of line for a guy that will grow up to be a big leaguer. Worth noting that he's lapping the field in line drive %. I'd say the odds of him being a 0 WAR bust have gone down a lot since draft day, and the odds of him putting up 80 WAR have gone down a little too.
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