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6/24 Gameday Thread: Blaze of Glory & Big Joe
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 24, 2022 7:20:53 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 24, 2022 8:46:25 GMT -5
Jedixson getting the start in game 1 of the FCL doubleheader.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 24, 2022 8:56:08 GMT -5
Probably either Francis Hernandez or one of Monegro/Perales if healthy in Game 2 in Florida. Hernandez has followed Paez's last two starts (albeit not for terribly long outings). Outside chance Michael Valera starts a bullpen game.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 24, 2022 9:37:23 GMT -5
FCL usage check:
Everyday (or close to it) (9+ starts out of 13 games including this morning): SS Ahbram Liendo (this may be out of necessity given how thin the IF is) RF Juan Chacon CF Miguel Bleis 3B Lyonell James (same comment as Liendo but even moreso)
Regulars (basically can't be in the above b/c of how catcher works): C platoon of Enderso Lira and Daniel McElveny
Platoons (6-9 starts): 2B: Alex Zapete (also some 3B) and Johnfrank Salazar (backup SS) (see above re: the infield)
Note that anyone below here might just be hurt or something and we don't know
Sporadic (4-5 starts): (I think LF is a product of having too many guys, whereas the rest are bench-ish or here and not below because someone has to play 1B) LF rotation of Allan Castro (5 starts total), Jhostynxon Garcia (4), Eduardo Vaughan (4) 1B/RF Alexis Hernandez (5) Rest of the 1B rotation of Ronald Rosario (4) and Albert Feliz (4) DH Bryan Gonzalez (4 starts at DH, 1 in LF) IF BJ Vela (4, always hitting 9th) OF Freddy Valdez (was tempted to put him below, 2 starts in RF and 2 at DH)
Bench (3 or fewer starts): C's Naysbel Marcano, Juan Montero, Diego Viloria
So from the above I get: - Bleis and Chacon are the priority guys. Lira and McElveny are clearly the guys they like at catcher. - Can't really tell with the IF until it's strengthened with draftees. Liendo and James are clear 1 and 2 but again, it's possible Liendo is the only guy that they feel comfortable with at SS with Ravelo hurt, etc. - LF is just overcrowded. - 1B is just a crater waiting for Casas' rehab assignment to start someday - Kind of surprised they haven't sent Viloria back to help with DSL catching depth because he barely plays.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jun 24, 2022 9:43:26 GMT -5
FCL usage check: Everyday (or close to it):SS Ahbram Liendo (this may be out of necessity given how thin the IF is) RF Juan Chacon CF Miguel Bleis 3B Lyonell James (same comment as Liendo but even moreso) Regulars:C platoon of Enderso Lira and Daniel McElveny Platoons:2B: Alex Zapete (also some 3B) and Johnfrank Salazar (backup SS) LF: Jhostynxon Garcia and Allan Castro Note that anyone below here might just be hurt or something and we don't knowSporatic:LF Eduardo Vaughan (I could see him working into the LF platoon) 1B/RF Alexis Hernandez (I think it's a matter of just not having enough at-bats for him) C/1B Ronald Rosario (here and not below basically because he plays 1B sometimes) DH Bryan Gonzalez (4 starts at DH, 1 in LF) 1B Albert Feliz IF BJ Vela Bench:C's Naysbel Marcano, Juan Montero, Diego Viloria OF Freddy Valdez I've only seen the FCL team twice but I would love someone else to tell me what they thought of how Bleis looks jogging out to center and back. He reminds me of someone (like Deion Sanders?). Luckly when he sprints he is really rambling (Lol). Also, he sort of looks like a young Eric Davis. Tall and skinny. He can look really impressive one time and very raw the next. Sort of what we should expect!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 24, 2022 9:52:45 GMT -5
Mmm. Cruising, Paez is.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jun 24, 2022 10:01:41 GMT -5
Deion Sanders would get up to bat, just before he would put the dollar sign in the dirt. I think Fisk told that story. He immediately took a disliking to him.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 24, 2022 10:19:10 GMT -5
Probably either Francis Hernandez or one of Monegro/Perales if healthy in Game 2 in Florida. Hernandez has followed Paez's last two starts (albeit not for terribly long outings). Outside chance Michael Valera starts a bullpen game. Looks like Monegro traveled.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 24, 2022 10:35:28 GMT -5
Paez: 5IP, 3H, 0ER, 0BB, 7K
Perales enters in relief...
ADD: interesting, Perales only pitched one inning. Wonder if they're just trying to get him game action since he hasn't pitched since 6/10.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 24, 2022 12:25:58 GMT -5
Paez: 5IP, 3H, 0ER, 0BB, 7K Perales enters in relief... ADD: interesting, Perales only pitched one inning. Wonder if they're just trying to get him game action since he hasn't pitched since 6/10. I'm presuming part of rehab of whatever made him miss this part start unless this continues forward. 1 inning today, 2-3 next week, etc. That said, worth watching given his injury history.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 24, 2022 12:57:58 GMT -5
Chris - didn't want to steer the Blaze Jordan thread off the rails, but you called Kavadas the most obvious promotion in the system right now. I agree 100% and have been saying it for a while, but since you're usually the Debbie Downer on promotions, who are some other names you'd think about promoting at this point in the year?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 24, 2022 13:11:50 GMT -5
Chris - didn't want to steer the Blaze Jordan thread off the rails, but you called Kavadas the most obvious promotion in the system right now. I agree 100% and have been saying it for a while, but since you're usually the Debbie Downer on promotions, who are some other names you'd think about promoting at this point in the year? Thanks for the kind words. Honestly, Kavadas stands out head and shoulders at the moment. He's older, his approach is too good for Low-A pitching, and he's been hitting for a while. Entering the year he seemed like a guy who wouldn't be there long. Hickey could probably handle A+ at the plate but there's the issue of catching which is unique (working with a pitching staff) and which is an issue for him (he's not great). He's also had multiple stretches of missing games due to being dinged up (he's already had 3 stretches of at least 5 games in which he didn't catch). Interestingly, he's caught Salem's last 5 games, which is VERY rare, so I think there's potentially a focus right now on him getting work on that end of things. Maybe Binelas as part of a chain promotion with Kavadas. I could also see Castellanos to Worcester as part of that to make room. Lugo feels like a guy we discuss in mid-to-late July if he's still hitting like this. No need to rush him. Pitching-wise, in a vacuum, Murphy to AAA might be in the offing, but there's no room when you consider who's there now (Bello/Walter/Seabold/Crawford), that Winckowski is going back down after this weekend's start most likely (pushes Pannone to the bullpen despite him being fine AAA SP depth), and that Mata is probably a start or two in Portland away from pushing Crawford to the AAA bullpen, or at least a piggyback role, himself. Even the bullpen in Worcester is crowded as hell - the AAA pitching depth is kind of astonishing this year. If I were to do Worcester bullpen power rankings, I'd have Durbin Feltman between 8th and 10th right now. EDIT: Screw it: Legit MLB depth: Kelly, Ort, Valdez Maybe best ceiling, but no need to rush him: German Very capable depth they probably won't need to call on: Bazardo, Feliz, Bracho, Cole Fine RP prospect who can marinate there: Politi Shine off the apple a bit: Feltman Also there: Hartlieb
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 24, 2022 13:13:27 GMT -5
Monegro ended up getting the start - probably on the same innnings restriction as Perales given that he hasn't pitched since 6/9.
Jhostynxon Garcia with a 2B and a HR in game 2.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 24, 2022 13:17:34 GMT -5
Chris - didn't want to steer the Blaze Jordan thread off the rails, but you called Kavadas the most obvious promotion in the system right now. I agree 100% and have been saying it for a while, but since you're usually the Debbie Downer on promotions, who are some other names you'd think about promoting at this point in the year? Thanks for the kind words. Honestly, Kavadas stands out head and shoulders at the moment. He's older, his approach is too good for Low-A pitching, and he's been hitting for a while. Entering the year he seemed like a guy who wouldn't be there long. Hickey could probably handle A+ at the plate but there's the issue of catching which is unique (working with a pitching staff) and which is an issue for him (he's not great). He's also had multiple stretches of missing games due to being dinged up (he's already had 3 stretches of at least 5 games in which he didn't catch). Interestingly, he's caught Salem's last 5 games, which is VERY rare, so I think there's potentially a focus right now on him getting work on that end of things. Maybe Binelas as part of a chain promotion with Kavadas. I could also see Castellanos to Worcester as part of that to make room. Pitching-wise, in a vacuum, Murphy to AAA might be in the offing, but there's no room when you consider who's there now, that Winckowski is going back down after this weekend's start most likely, and that Mata is probably a start or two in Portland away from pushing Crawford to the AAA bullpen himself. Even the bullpen in Worcester is crowded as hell - the AAA pitching depth is kind of astonishing this year. If I were to do Worcester bullpen power rankings, I'd have Feltman like, 9th right now. Do you think the front office reaches a point in Hickey's development where they decide to just develop and promote the bat and just kind of hope the catching side of it works out along the way? I get that if there's even a remote chance he could catch you try it, but it also seems like he should be advancing levels commensurate with Kavadas given their levels of advancement. Or do you think that that would negatively affect the pitching staffs, as well?
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 24, 2022 13:23:09 GMT -5
Maybe Binelas as part of a chain promotion with Kavadas. I could also see Castellanos to Worcester as part of that to make room. If not Binelas, then there's probably not much harm in pushing Joe Davis to Portland a little early.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 24, 2022 13:23:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the kind words. Honestly, Kavadas stands out head and shoulders at the moment. He's older, his approach is too good for Low-A pitching, and he's been hitting for a while. Entering the year he seemed like a guy who wouldn't be there long. Hickey could probably handle A+ at the plate but there's the issue of catching which is unique (working with a pitching staff) and which is an issue for him (he's not great). He's also had multiple stretches of missing games due to being dinged up (he's already had 3 stretches of at least 5 games in which he didn't catch). Interestingly, he's caught Salem's last 5 games, which is VERY rare, so I think there's potentially a focus right now on him getting work on that end of things. Maybe Binelas as part of a chain promotion with Kavadas. I could also see Castellanos to Worcester as part of that to make room. Pitching-wise, in a vacuum, Murphy to AAA might be in the offing, but there's no room when you consider who's there now, that Winckowski is going back down after this weekend's start most likely, and that Mata is probably a start or two in Portland away from pushing Crawford to the AAA bullpen himself. Even the bullpen in Worcester is crowded as hell - the AAA pitching depth is kind of astonishing this year. If I were to do Worcester bullpen power rankings, I'd have Feltman like, 9th right now. Do you think the front office reaches a point in Hickey's development where they decide to just develop and promote the bat and just kind of hope the catching side of it works out along the way? I get that if there's even a remote chance he could catch you try it, but it also seems like he should be advancing levels commensurate with Kavadas given their levels of advancement. Or do you think that that would negatively affect the pitching staffs, as well? As noted, catcher promotions are a bit of a different animal because of how they affect the pitching staff. He strikes me as an August promotion in part for that reason. I think at some point you consider whether to move him off the position for the bat, but we're a bit away from it at that point. We're not talking Wil Myers/Bryce Harper where it's not worth holding the bat back to develop him as a catcher. Kavadas is also a full year older than him (Kavadas was a senior, Hickey a draft-eligible sophomore), so I wouldn't worry about comparing them.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 24, 2022 13:25:17 GMT -5
Maybe Binelas as part of a chain promotion with Kavadas. I could also see Castellanos to Worcester as part of that to make room. If not Binelas, then there's probably not much harm in pushing Joe Davis to Portland a little early. Davis is a backup. Moving him doesn't free up much playing time. He played a bunch while Yorke was out and they didn't need the DH slot to keep guys in the lineup but if everyone there is healthy, he plays like 2 or 3 times a week. He's started 31 games - 15 were during the 21-game stretch in which Yorke played just once, the last 12 of which were after Rafaela was promoted; 16 were in Salem's other 42 games.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 24, 2022 13:38:07 GMT -5
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Post by chr31ter on Jun 24, 2022 13:39:59 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 24, 2022 13:40:20 GMT -5
Er, I mean, I'm sure they're going to promote Niko Kavadas, Alex Binelas, Nathan Hickey, and Stephen Scott any day now...
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 24, 2022 13:50:35 GMT -5
Er, I mean, I'm sure they're going to promote Niko Kavadas, Alex Binelas, Nathan Hickey, and Stephen Scott any day now... What a hilarious bit of timing
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 24, 2022 14:09:50 GMT -5
So who's going to Salem? They could take an FCL repeater that is less of a priority, but I'll have my fingers crossed that Bleis gets an aggressive promotion.
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 24, 2022 14:16:33 GMT -5
Armando Sierra with another 3 hits and a double. Send the man to Florida.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 24, 2022 14:19:59 GMT -5
DSL Blue again with a staggering day of offense. 22 hits, including:
K. Diaz: 3-4, 2B(2), 2 BB, 4 SBs Sierra: 3-5, 2B(9), BB Asigen: 4-6, 2B(2) Mota: 3-4, HR(1), BB, SB
DSL Blue has 185 hits as a team, next best is a team in their division, Cleveland Red, with 157 hits.
ADD: the top four in the DSL in hits are all on the DSL Blue team: Sierra (30), Lugo (26), Alcantara (22), and Asigen (22). Sierra leads the DSL in doubles with 9, Jose Mendez is tied for second with 7. Kelvin Diaz is tied for 3rd in the DSL with 3 triples. Sierra has the highest average in the DSL, Jose Mendez has the 4th highest, and Andy Lugo has the 12th highest. Sierra has the 5th highest OBP (Yosander Asencio on DSL Red actually has the highest in the DSL). Sierra has the 6th highest slug and the 4th highest OPS.
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 24, 2022 14:23:06 GMT -5
So who's going to Salem? They could take an FCL repeater that is less of a priority, but I'll have my fingers crossed that Bleis gets an aggressive promotion. Salem doesn’t necessarily NEED a 1B to replace Kavadas, given that Jordan, Miller, and Belen can all play 1B. Jonathan Diaz is a obvious choice to replace Hickey although I have no idea what’s going on with him this year. There aren’t really that many FCL repeaters this year.
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