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6/27 Gameday Thread: Smil(e)! You Are Pitching Today
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 27, 2022 7:42:40 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 27, 2022 12:06:44 GMT -5
Luis De La Rosa: 4IP, 1H, 0ER, 1BB, 9K 5IP, 1H, 0ER, 1BB, 10K
*FCL Sox struck out 22 batters last week against the FCL Braves, so I think that Braves lineup is pretty terrible
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Post by jaffinator on Jun 27, 2022 12:43:18 GMT -5
Luis De La Rosa: 4IP, 1H, 0ER, 1BB, 9K 5IP, 1H, 0ER, 1BB, 10K *FCL Sox struck out 22 batters last week against the FCL Braves, so I think that Braves lineup is pretty terrible This doesn't directly answer how good the lineup is overall, but they were supposed to have two prospects debut for the FCL but both are hurt. One is the first guy they spent big money on after they got slammed for bundling international prospects, and the other is their second rounder last year, Spencer Schwellenbach, who immediately had TJ after signing. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 27, 2022 13:06:00 GMT -5
Barbaro Pinero with a clean inning in his rehab outing - he had yet to register an out in three appearances for Salem, allowing 9 earned runs on three hits, six walks, and two hit batters.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2022 13:14:19 GMT -5
Barbaro Pinero with a clean inning in his rehab outing - he had yet to register an out in three appearances for Salem, allowing 9 earned runs on three hits, six walks, and two hit batters. FYI, the transaction log actually updated this morning such that he's just on the roster, not rehabbing. I think he's been in Fort Myers since going on the "IL" and they were just working with him on whatever yips he'd developed. |
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Post by cdj on Jun 27, 2022 13:14:42 GMT -5
BJ Vela with a nice game, 3-3 with 2 2B
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 27, 2022 13:52:24 GMT -5
Thomas Pannone is leaving the Red Sox org and signing with the KIA Tigers of the Korean Baseball League, per Joe McDonald.
Wonder if that opens a spot for Chris Murphy in Worcester. They technically could be fine without once Seabold and Winckowski are back and Walter is off the IL, but Murphy seems to be ready for AAA.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 27, 2022 14:10:19 GMT -5
Thomas Pannone is leaving the Red Sox org and signing with the KIA Tigers of the Korean Baseball League, per Joe McDonald. Wonder if that opens a spot for Chris Murphy in Worcester. They technically could be fine without once Seabold and Winckowski are back and Walter is off the IL, but Murphy seems to be ready for AAA. I wonder if this is the type of thing the Sox, or any team, would/could facilitate in a way. |
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Post by ramireja on Jun 27, 2022 15:18:45 GMT -5
On a day in which FCL batters struck out 14 times, Lyonell James picked up 2 hits without a K. He's now hitting .429 (albeit in just 45 PAs) with 6 BBs to 3 Ks on the year.
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 27, 2022 15:20:03 GMT -5
Claudio Simon must be tired after today’s game. Five stolen bases this morning.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2022 15:31:42 GMT -5
Thomas Pannone is leaving the Red Sox org and signing with the KIA Tigers of the Korean Baseball League, per Joe McDonald. Wonder if that opens a spot for Chris Murphy in Worcester. They technically could be fine without once Seabold and Winckowski are back and Walter is off the IL, but Murphy seems to be ready for AAA. I wonder if this is the type of thing the Sox, or any team, would/could facilitate in a way. They wouldn't facilitate losing a player - he's gone, this isn't like a loan. These leagues scout AAA and look for guys like Pannone who are good enough to help teams over there, and MLB clubs typically will agree to release guys to pursue such opportunities if they wish. For context he's probably doubling his salary at least. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2022 15:34:48 GMT -5
Thomas Pannone is leaving the Red Sox org and signing with the KIA Tigers of the Korean Baseball League, per Joe McDonald. Wonder if that opens a spot for Chris Murphy in Worcester. They technically could be fine without once Seabold and Winckowski are back and Walter is off the IL, but Murphy seems to be ready for AAA. The issue with Murphy is there's the potential for a AAA rotation of Bello, Walter, Mata, Winckowski, Seabold in the near future, which is already kicking Crawford to the bullpen (which is fine). They had already pushed Pannone briefly to the bullpen while Walter was first up and Winckowski was still there. The question is do you call up Murphy and if that happens, just piggyback a guy? We might be there. Depends on the prognosis of Walter, Eovaldi, and Whitlock. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 27, 2022 15:46:56 GMT -5
Pannone had the second best FIP in the international league. Someone should have been interested in giving him a shot IMO.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 27, 2022 15:47:00 GMT -5
I wonder if this is the type of thing the Sox, or any team, would/could facilitate in a way. They wouldn't facilitate losing a player - he's gone, this isn't like a loan. These leagues scout AAA and look for guys like Pannone who are good enough to help teams over there, and MLB clubs typically will agree to release guys to pursue such opportunities if they wish. For context he's probably doubling his salary at least. As someone who has worked for multiple teams, both college and pro, teams would 100% facilitate losing a player. It's not that hard to imagine a situation in which it were mutually beneficial for Pannone to move on. It may not have been what happened here, it's very unlikely that it is, but the scenario isn't unreasonable. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 27, 2022 15:50:30 GMT -5
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Post by GyIantosca on Jun 27, 2022 18:59:04 GMT -5
YES, YES, YES ,YES. Great job Chris Murphy. well deserved Also as much as i am rooting for Jay Groome, I believe he should stay in Portland all season. No matter what. He will get there. He is going to be special. |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jun 27, 2022 20:18:59 GMT -5
Pannone had the second best FIP in the international league. Someone should have been interested in giving him a shot IMO. I guess they know what FIP is in Korea too...
Ultimately, even AAAA guys like Pannone has an agent. It's not hard to envision his agent seeing how many starters are on the 40-man ahead of his client and seeing Crawford, Winck, and Seabold getting call-ups (with Bello possibly in the wings); asking the Sox FO if they have realistic plans to call his client up (i.e. without four more pitchers getting hurt); getting a direct answer; and shopping around for alternatives.
Good job by his agent, basically.
EDIT: If I was in his shoes, I'd love to go to Korea. I've been there once and it's a fascinating culture with amazing food...
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2022 20:59:03 GMT -5
For a guy like Pannone, the Red Sox aren't going to release you to let you go to another MLB team and potentially help them, even if it means a better chance for you to pitch in MLB. They will release you to play overseas though. He probably doubled his pay at least and gets to go check out Korea for half a season. Why the heck not? Then if you pitch well, maybe you try to get an invite to MLB camp next year.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jun 27, 2022 21:12:23 GMT -5
For a guy like Pannone, the Red Sox aren't going to release you to let you go to another MLB team and potentially help them, even if it means a better chance for you to pitch in MLB. They will release you to play overseas though. He probably doubled his pay at least and gets to go check out Korea for half a season. Why the heck not? Then if you pitch well, maybe you try to get an invite to MLB camp next year. Of course not. I would imagine, though, that the first alternative the agent explored was whether another MLB club might be interested in trading for him. The dude surely prefers to pitch in MLB (or in AAA with a legit shot) if the opportunity exists. I highly doubt he was released without an assurance that he was going overseas (perhaps in the form of a PDF of the Korean contract offer). |
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Post by ericmvan on Jun 28, 2022 0:31:05 GMT -5
EDIT: If I was in his shoes, I'd love to go to Korea. I've been there once and it's a fascinating culture with amazing food...
You just reminded me that I haven't had okdol bibimbap (from the Korean place in the Super 88 food court in Allston) since the pandemic! My brother and I have to give it a shot ... |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 28, 2022 5:43:47 GMT -5
For a guy like Pannone, the Red Sox aren't going to release you to let you go to another MLB team and potentially help them, even if it means a better chance for you to pitch in MLB. They will release you to play overseas though. He probably doubled his pay at least and gets to go check out Korea for half a season. Why the heck not? Then if you pitch well, maybe you try to get an invite to MLB camp next year. Of course not. I would imagine, though, that the first alternative the agent explored was whether another MLB club might be interested in trading for him. The dude surely prefers to pitch in MLB (or in AAA with a legit shot) if the opportunity exists. I highly doubt he was released without an assurance that he was going overseas (perhaps in the form of a PDF of the Korean contract offer). I figured out went without saying that nobody was going to trade for him. He's a fine AAA pitcher but I don't think anyone is giving up much for the likes of him. And yes, he knew Kia was signing him - that's why he requested his release. |
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