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Post by benzinger on Jul 8, 2022 19:22:00 GMT -5
This Seabold is making me miss David Pauley.
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 8, 2022 19:22:02 GMT -5
Joey Gallo? Really? If this were a street fight the Sox would be lying in the alley unconscious about now.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 8, 2022 19:22:14 GMT -5
Hey I’m at the game. It’s my birthday present.
LOL
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 8, 2022 19:22:25 GMT -5
I feel real bad for Seabold. Hard to make the bigs. He is 26 and his first go 'round has been awful. Tough to take after all the hard work to get there. Funny how Seabold was the "get" and Pivetta was considered the thrown-in in the Workman/Hembree trade.
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 8, 2022 19:23:12 GMT -5
I think Seabold threw in the towel and pulled himself there. That's a little embarrassing.
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Post by manfred on Jul 8, 2022 19:24:04 GMT -5
I think Seabold threw in the towel and pulled himself there. That's a little embarrassing. I don’t know. He was pointing to his forearm. I hope he’s ok. Add: Look, I know they are facing a bullpen game tomorrow and all, but Cora really should be ashamed of himself, especially if that kid is hurt. It is one thing to let some journeyman take a beating, but Seabold is allegedly one of your big prospects. Cora let him a) throw way too many pitches in a short span; and b) get embarrassed. That is weak.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Jul 8, 2022 19:25:31 GMT -5
You knew that when you are missing your 1st 3rd 4th and 5th starting pitchers that this was going to be a slog. Yankees caught us at the exact right time when we are at our weakest. I am going to write this off as expected outcome because i wasn't looking for any miracles of them taking this series or the next one either.
We are dead last in LOB and that will win nothing.
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Post by benzinger on Jul 8, 2022 19:25:55 GMT -5
Hey I’m at the game. It’s my birthday present. LOL Can you pitch?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 8, 2022 19:26:38 GMT -5
I still think the Sox will make the playoffs....as the 4th place AL East team which is the most ideal scenario for them anyways.
The law of averages dictates that they will sooner or later defeat an AL East team in a series eventually.
I find it funny/ironic that they defeated 2 AL East teams in the post season last year and haven't won since. It matters less now than then so I probably wouldnt trade it. I'm glad the Sox eliminated NY and TB last year.
For all I care they can get their butts kicked by the AL East if they can shock in the postseason...provided they get there, which they will I still think. It's just going to be ugly for awhile.
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Jul 8, 2022 19:27:24 GMT -5
You get what you pay for, John Henry. 6th highest payroll. What did he get in 2019 with the highest payroll? 84-78 3rd place
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 8, 2022 19:29:03 GMT -5
You get what you pay for, John Henry. 6th highest payroll. What did he get in 2019 with the highest payroll? 84-78 3rd place True but they did ok with the highest payroll the year prior.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 8, 2022 19:29:20 GMT -5
We might not and may never be better than the Yankees this season, but we are a small piece or two away from being a sure playoff team, if we aren't one already.
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Post by rico6 on Jul 8, 2022 19:30:50 GMT -5
Hey I’m at the game. It’s my birthday present. LOL Did you make a wish before blowing out the candles?
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Post by tizzle on Jul 8, 2022 19:31:52 GMT -5
Hey I’m at the game. It’s my birthday present. LOL Can you pitch? Yes. I feature an arsenal of slow balls, extremely slow fastballs and even slower slowballs.
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 8, 2022 19:33:48 GMT -5
Reminder to everyone, we have 6 SP on the IL lol Whitlock, Sale, Eovaldi, Hill, Wacha, Paxton
Houck should be starting at this point
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 8, 2022 19:34:19 GMT -5
I think Seabold threw in the towel and pulled himself there. That's a little embarrassing. I don’t know. He was pointing to his forearm. I hope he’s ok. Add: Look, I know they are facing a bullpen game tomorrow and all, but Cora really should be ashamed of himself, especially if that kid is hurt. It is one thing to let some journeyman take a beating, but Seabold is allegedly one of your big prospects. Cora let him a) throw way too many pitches in a short span; and b) get embarrassed. That is weak. Hope you're right about Seabold. Boston Media talk shows are going to eat this up. It wasn't a good look for Seabold. The media will blame Cora just as much as you pointed out, too.
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 8, 2022 19:35:01 GMT -5
I want to see Dalbec pitch tonight
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 8, 2022 19:35:02 GMT -5
Hey I’m at the game. It’s my birthday present. LOL Next time ask for a pony.
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Post by reasonabledoubt on Jul 8, 2022 19:35:37 GMT -5
6th highest payroll. What did he get in 2019 with the highest payroll? 84-78 3rd place True but they did ok with the highest payroll the year prior. Houston is 10th, Toronto is 11th, you don't want to know what number Tampa is. I think most would agree the spending by this team is not the problem.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 8, 2022 19:36:47 GMT -5
Is it too late to tank?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 8, 2022 19:37:09 GMT -5
I still think the Sox will make the playoffs....as the 4th place AL East team which is the most ideal scenario for them anyways. The law of averages dictates that they will sooner or later defeat an AL East team in a series eventually. I find it funny/ironic that they defeated 2 AL East teams in the post season last year and haven't won since. It matters less now than then so I probably wouldnt trade it. I'm glad the Sox eliminated NY and TB last year. For all I care they can get their butts kicked by the AL East if they can shock in the postseason...provided they get there, which they will I still think. It's just going to be ugly for awhile. This 3 team WC format is terrible. It really cheapens what the Yankees are doing and further dilutes the regular season. I expect the Sox to get in. All you have to do is try and you're in. I don't believe Seattle, Baltimore, or Cleveland are going to surpass Boston. The Red Sox won't blow it up because they're too good to miss, but they can't beat winning clubs. In the end it's going to be a pointless season in which they may or may not surprise and knock someone out, but that's it.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 8, 2022 19:38:58 GMT -5
Yeah it’s a tough call. Hard to throw in the towel when you have a shot to make a run in the playoffs, but realistically they’re much worse than NYY and HOU. Counterpoint: try to close the gap? As Jerry noted, they are still looking good for a WC. The lesson may be they aren’t good enough for more… yet. But could they be? What if the got, say, Castillo from the Reds? And one more bat? But do you trade a guy like Mata or Ward for a rental piece to try and make the playoffs as a first round out? Even if they get someone like Castillo or Montas its not going to move the needle. They're way too far behind Houston and NY. Break the bank for Devers and then build around him.
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Post by manfred on Jul 8, 2022 19:39:38 GMT -5
Reminder to everyone, we have 6 SP on the IL lol Whitlock, Sale, Eovaldi, Hill, Wacha, Paxton Houck should be starting at this point Well… Sale started on the IL. Paxton was *signed* hurt! Hill was absolutely predictable not to make it through the season. Wacha probably was a risk. So I’m not sure that is not partly an indictment of The Plan.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 8, 2022 19:42:47 GMT -5
Reminder to everyone, we have 6 SP on the IL lol Whitlock, Sale, Eovaldi, Hill, Wacha, Paxton Houck should be starting at this point Well… Sale started on the IL. Paxton was *signed* hurt! Hill was absolutely predictable not to make it through the season. Wacha probably was a risk. So I’m not sure that is not partly an indictment of The Plan. Wacha could most definitely return a solid youngster. Wacha Vazquez JD and Nate need to be traded for sure. If you aren't serious about Xander then trade him too.
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Post by manfred on Jul 8, 2022 19:42:56 GMT -5
Counterpoint: try to close the gap? As Jerry noted, they are still looking good for a WC. The lesson may be they aren’t good enough for more… yet. But could they be? What if the got, say, Castillo from the Reds? And one more bat? But do you trade a guy like Mata or Ward for a rental piece to try and make the playoffs as a first round out? Even if they get someone like Castillo or Montas its not going to move the needle. They're way too far behind Houston and NY. Break the bank for Devers and then build around him. Can we trade Verdugo for a rental? Done.
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