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Post by taiwansox on Jul 8, 2022 19:44:02 GMT -5
Reminder to everyone, we have 6 SP on the IL lol Whitlock, Sale, Eovaldi, Hill, Wacha, Paxton Houck should be starting at this point Well… Sale started on the IL. Paxton was *signed* hurt! Hill was absolutely predictable not to make it through the season. Wacha probably was a risk. So I’m not sure that is not partly an indictment of The Plan. All injury prone for sure, but the odds of 6 at once is kinda crazy and we’re about to see number 7 on the IL with Seabold
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 8, 2022 19:44:02 GMT -5
Thread has lost its mind
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 8, 2022 19:44:55 GMT -5
I just don’t like seeing the MFY beating up on the Woo Sox
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 8, 2022 19:45:25 GMT -5
This thread is a tire fire
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 8, 2022 19:45:42 GMT -5
True but they did ok with the highest payroll the year prior. Houston is 10th, Toronto is 11th, you don't want to know what number Tampa is. I think most would agree the spending by this team is not the problem. And how about the Dodgers, Mets, and Yankees? Believe it or not I'm not totally disagreeing with you, but a team can spend and win if they do it well. The 2004 Red Sox were 2nd. The 2007 Sox spent. The 2018 Red Sox had the highest payroll plus 119 wins. I'd rather see the Sox spend...smartly. I'm not calling them cheapskates. I am concerned that Devers will leave. I'm sure they'll spend, but it won't be Devers.
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 8, 2022 19:46:28 GMT -5
But do you trade a guy like Mata or Ward for a rental piece to try and make the playoffs as a first round out? Even if they get someone like Castillo or Montas its not going to move the needle. They're way too far behind Houston and NY. Break the bank for Devers and then build around him. Can we trade Verdugo for a rental? Done. I am torn on Verdugo. Has that Lenny Dykstra quality without being trash rapped in human skin like Dykstra. Love him if he is on your team, hate him as opponent.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 8, 2022 19:49:16 GMT -5
I still think the Sox will make the playoffs....as the 4th place AL East team which is the most ideal scenario for them anyways. The law of averages dictates that they will sooner or later defeat an AL East team in a series eventually. I find it funny/ironic that they defeated 2 AL East teams in the post season last year and haven't won since. It matters less now than then so I probably wouldnt trade it. I'm glad the Sox eliminated NY and TB last year. For all I care they can get their butts kicked by the AL East if they can shock in the postseason...provided they get there, which they will I still think. It's just going to be ugly for awhile. This 3 team WC format is terrible. It really cheapens what the Yankees are doing and further dilutes the regular season. I expect the Sox to get in. All you have to do is try and you're in. I don't believe Seattle, Baltimore, or Cleveland are going to surpass Boston. The Red Sox won't blow it up because they're too good to miss, but they can't beat winning clubs. In the end it's going to be a pointless season in which they may or may not surprise and knock someone out, but that's it. I'm old school. I hated the Wild Card concept, even though the Sox were big beneficiaries of it. I like the dual Wild Card system better because of the sudden death 1 game coin toss that teams wanted to avoid. But this format is awful. And eventually it'll be 7 or even 8 teams in each league making the playoffs, rendering the regular season too long to determine seeding, which is all it is.
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Post by cdj on Jul 8, 2022 19:50:09 GMT -5
Can we trade Verdugo for a rental? Done. I am torn on Verdugo. Has that Lenny Dykstra quality without being trash rapped in human skin like Dykstra. Love him if he is on your team, hate him as opponent. Nothing to be torn on, trading Verdugo for a rental is a stupid idea
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Post by benzinger on Jul 8, 2022 19:51:52 GMT -5
Will the Sox be able to hold the Yankees scoreless in a single inning tonight? That is the question. 0-3! 0-4! I’ve seen enough of this one. Have a good night, gents.
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 8, 2022 19:52:35 GMT -5
Feliz is such a good teammate, he had to make sure Seabold didn’t have the highest ERA
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Post by manfred on Jul 8, 2022 19:54:04 GMT -5
I am torn on Verdugo. Has that Lenny Dykstra quality without being trash rapped in human skin like Dykstra. Love him if he is on your team, hate him as opponent. Nothing to be torn on, trading Verdugo for a rental is a stupid idea It is. Couldn’t get a rental for a negative-WAR OF.
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Post by cdj on Jul 8, 2022 19:55:55 GMT -5
Nothing to be torn on, trading Verdugo for a rental is a stupid idea It is. Couldn’t get a rental for a negative-WAR OF. We can rehash why this is stupid for the thousandth time and once again thank the great god above you’re not the GM, it’s Friday night and a blowout so I don’t feel like it though
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 8, 2022 19:58:27 GMT -5
I am torn on Verdugo. Has that Lenny Dykstra quality without being trash rapped in human skin like Dykstra. Love him if he is on your team, hate him as opponent. Nothing to be torn on, trading Verdugo for a rental is a stupid idea Was not talking trade for rental. Talking about his future here in general. Would not be in favor of trade for rental. Some of the midling prospects Bloom has acquired sure.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 8, 2022 19:59:00 GMT -5
This 3 team WC format is terrible. It really cheapens what the Yankees are doing and further dilutes the regular season. I expect the Sox to get in. All you have to do is try and you're in. I don't believe Seattle, Baltimore, or Cleveland are going to surpass Boston. The Red Sox won't blow it up because they're too good to miss, but they can't beat winning clubs. In the end it's going to be a pointless season in which they may or may not surprise and knock someone out, but that's it. I'm old school. I hated the Wild Card concept, even though the Sox were big beneficiaries of it. I like the dual Wild Card system better because of the sudden death 1 game coin toss that teams wanted to avoid. But this format is awful. And eventually it'll be 7 or even 8 teams in each league making the playoffs, rendering the regular season too long to determine seeding, which is all it is. I liked the WC because it sucks being stuck behind a team like the Yankees this year. The best team not winning the division doesn't get screwed winning 99 games while another gets in winning 81. It avoids those oddities. If there was no Wild Card, the Rays, Red Sox and Blue Jays would basically all already be eliminated. The 2nd I didn't like, but making it a 1-game sudden death made it even better. Win your division or leave your fate to a bad bounce or a throwing error. Now why am I watching? To see who gets the better seeding while some .500 club gets in when they shouldn't? I don't really see baseball even having that big of a home field advantage. If your starter is off it doesn't matter where you're playing (not that it doesn't matter, but I don't think it's much of an advantage).
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 8, 2022 19:59:28 GMT -5
At least Nestor isnt having a good game
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Post by cdj on Jul 8, 2022 20:00:34 GMT -5
Well they got a couple bombs at least
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 8, 2022 20:01:12 GMT -5
Moral victories!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 8, 2022 20:01:31 GMT -5
LOL. Bobby Bomb when we least needed it. Says a lot about the cruelty of baseball to our beloved Sox right now.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 8, 2022 20:02:30 GMT -5
LOL. Bobby Bomb when we least needed it. Says a lot about the cruelty of baseball to our beloved Sox right now. Watch Xander get one now.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 8, 2022 20:03:10 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Jul 8, 2022 20:04:46 GMT -5
I have a stat question for those of you who get them better than I do: does Arroyo get credit as a defender for his assist? I mean, I assume he gets killed for blowing the catch, but that assist only happens because he messed up and Gallo really pressed his luck. But in isolation, an OF assist at hone is impressive. Is this all accounted for? Just curious.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 8, 2022 20:04:50 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 8, 2022 20:06:55 GMT -5
Feel bad for Connor. I would be all up in my feels in his shoes.
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 8, 2022 20:08:36 GMT -5
I have a stat question for those of you who get them better than I do: does Arroyo get credit as a defender for his assist? I mean, I assume he gets killed for blowing the catch, but that assist only happens because he messed up and Gallo really pressed his luck. But in isolation, an OF assist at hone is impressive. Is this all accounted for? Just curious. Absolutely. It’s called a Cespedes special, misplay a ball in the outfield to boost your OF assist numbers. Cespedes and Puig were both pretty good at that
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Post by foreverred9 on Jul 8, 2022 20:09:28 GMT -5
Assuming this is an IL stint, does this mean he has to go on the IL as a member of the Sox (i.e. get paid ML salary)? Or can they send him down then place him on the minor-league IL? I think it's the former.
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