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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 8, 2022 20:10:33 GMT -5
Our 8th and 9th starters have gotten smoked but we have smoked their 1 and 2
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 8, 2022 20:11:28 GMT -5
I'm old school. I hated the Wild Card concept, even though the Sox were big beneficiaries of it. I like the dual Wild Card system better because of the sudden death 1 game coin toss that teams wanted to avoid. But this format is awful. And eventually it'll be 7 or even 8 teams in each league making the playoffs, rendering the regular season too long to determine seeding, which is all it is. I liked the WC because it sucks being stuck behind a team like the Yankees this year. The best team not winning the division doesn't get screwed winning 99 games while another gets in winning 81. It avoids those oddities. If there was no Wild Card, the Rays, Red Sox and Blue Jays would basically all already be eliminated. The 2nd I didn't like, but making it a 1-game sudden death made it even better. Win your division or leave your fate to a bad bounce or a throwing error. Now why am I watching? To see who gets the better seeding while some .500 club gets in when they shouldn't? I don't really see baseball even having that big of a home field advantage. If your starter is off it doesn't matter where you're playing (not that it doesn't matter, but I don't think it's much of an advantage). The only disadvantage for the single wild card back them was that the deciding games of the LDS or the LCS were on the road...which hurt the Sox in 2003 but made it a blast in 2004. Nothing like partying in the Bronx. But it did hurt division races. I remember in 2007 the Sox were trying their hardest to reenact 1978. They had a 14 game lead over the Yankees and the Yankees whittled it down to 1.5 games in late Sept, but then they gave up catching the Sox and rested their players for the postseason, being content to be the wild card, so the Sox won by 2 games. So the old fashioned division race was muted. Guess the Yankees relaxed too much. They were terrible against Cleveland in the ALDS and got knocked off so the Sox faced Cleveland instead of NY in the 2007 ALCS.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 8, 2022 20:15:11 GMT -5
Nestor was not the molester tonight
Yep. Seabold can put in a worker's comp claim and Cora should retain legal counsel.
Groome vs. Nestor shoulda been the matchup
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 8, 2022 20:16:18 GMT -5
Swing at ball 4 and miss a slider middle middle yup that’s Vazquez for you
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Post by cdj on Jul 8, 2022 20:16:27 GMT -5
Nestor was not the molester tonight Yep. Seabold can put in a worker's comp claim and Cora should retain legal counsel. Groome vs. Nestor shoulda been the matchup It would be 17-4 Yankees right now
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 8, 2022 20:22:42 GMT -5
Red sox will soon be almost all AAA PLAYERS at this point
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 8, 2022 20:33:47 GMT -5
Feliz can start in 5 days.
When was the last time he threw 48 pitches at any level? 2015?
Edit: now at 61 pitches. Feliz is my new binky, whatever that means.
Just think, his arrival was impeded by Robles. Age 29, out of options
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 8, 2022 20:42:18 GMT -5
Assuming this is an IL stint, does this mean he has to go on the IL as a member of the Sox (i.e. get paid ML salary)? Or can they send him down then place him on the minor-league IL? I think it's the former. My guess is that he goes on the 60 day major league IL and the Sox non tender him in the off-season.
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Jul 8, 2022 20:44:27 GMT -5
Maybe I’m just mad but not really impressed by the MFYs relative to how good their record says they are. Looking forward to their annual October faceplant
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 8, 2022 20:46:40 GMT -5
Refsnyder = MVP
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 8, 2022 20:48:26 GMT -5
Assuming this is an IL stint, does this mean he has to go on the IL as a member of the Sox (i.e. get paid ML salary)? Or can they send him down then place him on the minor-league IL? I think it's the former. My guess is that he goes on the 60 day major league IL and the Sox non tender him in the off-season. Dude enough. They are not going to non tender him. Go look at his milb stats and tell me he wouldnt get claimed in cocaine heartbeat if they did.
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Post by manfred on Jul 8, 2022 20:52:12 GMT -5
This game is not over. Could be a huge birthday surprise!
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Post by Guidas on Jul 8, 2022 20:58:06 GMT -5
Y'know, if the Sox pitchers weren't giving up so many runs early, these games would be completely winnable.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 8, 2022 21:02:35 GMT -5
Maybe I’m just mad but not really impressed by the MFYs relative to how good their record says they are. Looking forward to their annual October faceplant Ok I understand... Now if the Sox changed places with the Yankees stats and instead WE led mlb in runs scored, home runs, run differential, team ERA and were on pace to match or exceed the all time team seasonal win record, would we question how good the alt Sox were in that case? I think not. We would be reveling in our largess and scoffing at the poor Yankees. We are dragging tail...and in need of talent rejuvenation. Xander can opt out after this season and the Sox have not offered him a new contract. Rumors are scary that he could be gone. Where will we be next year if he is AWOL? Ok Story at .230 can easily replace X at .315 BA. We good.🥴
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Post by Guidas on Jul 8, 2022 21:05:17 GMT -5
Welp. I fear that squander was the ball game.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 8, 2022 21:05:31 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 8, 2022 21:09:52 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 8, 2022 21:11:26 GMT -5
Maybe I’m just mad but not really impressed by the MFYs relative to how good their record says they are. Looking forward to their annual October faceplant Ok I understand... Now if the Sox changed places with the Yankees stats and instead WE led mlb in runs scored, home runs, run differential, team ERA and were on pace to match or exceed the all time team seasonal win record, would we question how good the alt Sox were in that case? I think not. We would be reveling in our largess and scoffing at the poor Yankees. We are dragging tail...and in need of talent rejuvenation. Xander can opt out after this season and the Sox have not offered him a new contract. Rumors are scary that he could be gone. Where will we be next year if he is AWOL? Ok Story at .230 can easily replace X at .315 BA. We good.🥴 Apparently it's a requirement to pretend that the Yankees aren't that good because the truth can be tough to handle. They ARE that good. I was kind of in denial about the 2018 Red Sox because I couldnt figure out how a team with 3 catchers who can't hit .200, a 2b like Nunez, an error prone Raffy at 3b, the lame bat of JBJ, a rotation where Hector Velazquez and Brian Johnson were getting a bunch of starts and a pen with little middle relief were somehow winning every damn day. I couldnt believe they were that good. When they blew Game 3 of the Series, I figured, there it is...finally...the fatal flaw...and then the next day when it looked like the Series was turning toward LA the Sox exploded for 9 runs in the final 3 innings to steal Game 4. Well, by then, even I knew the Sox were going to win Game 5 and the Series. It was just their freaking year. The Yankees this year have the same feel. They don't remind me of the 98 Yankees which were an obvious juggernaut.
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 8, 2022 21:26:21 GMT -5
My guess is that he goes on the 60 day major league IL and the Sox non tender him in the off-season. Dude enough. They are not going to non tender him. Go look at his milb stats and tell me he wouldnt get claimed in cocaine heartbeat if they did. Where does this reaction come from? He's a fringe starter (on the older side of prospect status) that's in danger of Tommy John surgery. Yeah I could definitely see it playing out this way with the Sox 40 man roster situation right now.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 8, 2022 21:29:01 GMT -5
Is Arroyo hurt?
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jul 8, 2022 21:32:29 GMT -5
In a seven-game series with a healthy Eovaldi and Pivetta pitching 1, 2, 5 and 6, and Houck and Whitlock in the pen, we'd have a fighting chance against the MFYs. We'd be an underdog, but this is BB, Suzyn. At least one of the non-Eovaldi/Pivetta games would probably be a blowout, giving Cora a chance to reset the BP for the next couple of games.
I'd like our chances better if we could stop being below replacement level at two positions. Get a legitimate 1B and throw Franchy into the OF against RHP. No more Bobby D., no more JBJ.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 8, 2022 21:32:40 GMT -5
Seabold will be arb eligible in Spring '27.
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 8, 2022 21:42:07 GMT -5
Orioles walk off Angel's. 4th walk off in 5 games. Baltimore no push over.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 8, 2022 21:46:41 GMT -5
Uh, I dunno if I need to see Jackie throwing 92 here
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Post by station13 on Jul 8, 2022 21:46:43 GMT -5
Xander is in a slump.
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