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Post by taiwansox on Jul 13, 2022 19:48:10 GMT -5
Quality start right there for Winchowski
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Post by cdj on Jul 13, 2022 19:48:21 GMT -5
Quality start…
This is a guy who will give you a competitive 5-6 innings out of the back of the rotation imo. The thing I like the most about him is that he’s not going to kill your bullpen. He can go out there and have a 5 run 3rd inning and still end the game working into the 6th. That’s a quality that matters out of the back of the rotation
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Post by orion09 on Jul 13, 2022 19:50:56 GMT -5
Winchowski is fine, not much hard contact, decent command. He’s basically pitching like Porcello (not 2017), should be a solid innings eater in the long run. He’d look a lot better to us if our offense were scoring more/nog running into outs And he’s under control for 6 more years after 2022, including the next 3 years at league minimum
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 13, 2022 19:52:09 GMT -5
didn't i read somewhere the leagues is re-evaluating guys who pitch to contact ? The hard part for them is the margin for error is smaller.
We will see about Wincky. He is earning his chance.
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 13, 2022 19:52:21 GMT -5
Winchowski is fine, not much hard contact, decent command. He’s basically pitching like Porcello (not 2017), should be a solid innings eater in the long run. He’d look a lot better to us if our offense were scoring more/nog running into outs 6 IP, 3 runs ...That used to be called a Quality Start. Not sure what more you can expect from the kid
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 13, 2022 19:52:24 GMT -5
Severino with shoulder issues for the MFY, baseball is a long season…
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 13, 2022 19:52:54 GMT -5
McClanahan is gone finally. Try hitting someone else.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 13, 2022 19:53:01 GMT -5
Eh. He generated 3 whiffs so far facing a team without it's 2 best hitters. I must confess, I've never thought too much of him when he was in Portland so maybe I'm bias toward him There is more to being a pitcher than strikeouts. We had about 100 years of pitchers who rarely struck more guys out than Winckowski is striking out now. C'mon man! Today's game is very different from what it used to be. And I mentioned the whiffs as a metric about the guy's stuff. It's just meh across the board.
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Post by station13 on Jul 13, 2022 19:53:20 GMT -5
solid start. let's get some offense going here
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 13, 2022 19:54:23 GMT -5
There is more to being a pitcher than strikeouts. We had about 100 years of pitchers who rarely struck more guys out than Winckowski is striking out now. C'mon man! Today's game is very different from what it used to be. And I mentioned the whiffs as a metric about the guy's stuff. It's just meh across the board. Just wait until the shift is banned and weak contact becomes much more wanted.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 13, 2022 19:55:49 GMT -5
That "strike" to JDM was 3 inches outside.
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Post by soxinsf on Jul 13, 2022 19:56:34 GMT -5
Let me repeat this for the hard of hearing.
Six innings pitched. Four hits, three runs, five K’s, one BB. Be thankful that we can get a rookie call up with those kinds of results.
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 13, 2022 19:57:31 GMT -5
Surprised Cash pulled McClanahan with the all-star break coming up. This is a very important game and he was at 85 pitches.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 13, 2022 19:58:56 GMT -5
Xander working his butt off tonight.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 13, 2022 20:00:21 GMT -5
Our offense is funky.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 13, 2022 20:04:00 GMT -5
Can't we get rid of Diekman and bring up Hernandez? At least there is hope that a young pitcher will figure out how to stop walking 7 per 9.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 13, 2022 20:08:23 GMT -5
C'mon man! Today's game is very different from what it used to be. And I mentioned the whiffs as a metric about the guy's stuff. It's just meh across the board. Just wait until the shift is banned and weak contact becomes much more wanted. You think? Seems to me that banning the shift would affect who you'll pick as your middle infielders (more rangy guys and no more Max Muncy playing some 2nd base lol) And regarding Winckowski: his HardHit% is in the 2uth percenile entering today. Not I would really call weak contact inducing pitcher. Anyway, as I said before he seems like someone with a great makeup and wiĺlingness to work so who knows? He may learn a new pitch and dominates.
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 13, 2022 20:11:15 GMT -5
Wow…
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 13, 2022 20:11:19 GMT -5
They just scored from first on a single. As bad as it gets.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 13, 2022 20:11:45 GMT -5
that is ridiculous and I have had enough of this baseball stupidity.
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 13, 2022 20:12:32 GMT -5
They just scored from first on a single. Three cameras and not one showed what happened.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 13, 2022 20:13:43 GMT -5
Just wait until the shift is banned and weak contact becomes much more wanted. You think? Seems to me that banning the shift would affect who you'll pick as your middle infielders (more rangy guys and no more Max Muncy playing some 2nd base lol) And regarding Winckowski: his HardHit% is in the 2uth percenile entering today. Not I would really call weak contact inducing pitcher. Anyway, as I said before he seems like someone with a great makeup and wiĺlingness to work so who knows? He may learn a new pitch and dominates. His xwOBA is pretty much average for all of MLB (probably better after tonight), which is pretty awesome for a league minimum rookie. And that includes his low k-rate.
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 13, 2022 20:13:53 GMT -5
that is ridiculous and I have had enough of this baseball stupidity. Diekman will make sure it doesn’t matter
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Post by radiohix on Jul 13, 2022 20:14:54 GMT -5
Walking Lowe after getting him in a 0-2 count pissed me off more that the throwing error tbh.
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 13, 2022 20:14:54 GMT -5
The bright side is Diekman might just walk the next 2 batters so it wouldn't have mattered.
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