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2023 International Signing Period
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 8, 2023 16:59:53 GMT -5
Once Walter and Casas graduate six out of the top ten Red Sox prospects will be IFA signings. At what point does the IFP become more important than the MLB draft? I don't think one is more important than the other. Casas will graduate, and Walter may, too. But so will Mata potentially. And then you have to factor in that there will be at least one guy from the draft in July that will enter the top 10. It ebbs and flows. This. 6 of the top 10, 12 of the top 20, 18 of the top 30 are Red Sox draftees, and keep in mind that number is still artificially low due to the shortened 2020 draft. FWIW, it might also seem like more IFAs in the top 20 because of Lugo and ERC, who feel like IFAs because they're from Puerto Rico.
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Post by patford on Mar 8, 2023 21:21:22 GMT -5
I don't think one is more important than the other. Casas will graduate, and Walter may, too. But so will Mata potentially. And then you have to factor in that there will be at least one guy from the draft in July that will enter the top 10. It ebbs and flows. This. 6 of the top 10, 12 of the top 20, 18 of the top 30 are Red Sox draftees, and keep in mind that number is still artificially low due to the shortened 2020 draft. FWIW, it might also seem like more IFAs in the top 20 because of Lugo and ERC, who feel like IFAs because they're from Puerto Rico. Somehow I forgot Mata will probably graduate about the same time as Walter. Still right behind Paulino is Gonzalez so hypothetically it's still 6 of 10. In any case I mean more that it seems like the day is coming. I wonder what things looked like on the whole in MLB say five or ten years ago?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 13, 2023 15:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 13, 2023 20:22:15 GMT -5
I have no clue how to find out anything about this guy on instagram. Who is he, how old is he and what position does he play ?
He's got long fingers.
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Post by ixnayexxus on Mar 14, 2023 11:14:39 GMT -5
I always figured a good way of spending remaining resources is to sign a plethora of raw arms who are taller and lankier, with the hope that they will eventually fill out their frames and add velocity as they do, in addition to obviously refining their stuff as well; from what I recall, guys like Clase and Doval weren't considered cream of crop caliber prospects when they signed. Am I wrong in thinking this way? it just seems like a worthwhile gamble considering how young these kids are.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Mar 14, 2023 11:36:27 GMT -5
Rare, but last year they used $400k on Cristofher Paniagua, so while rare, later, non-Cuban-defector mid-tier bonus signings do happen. FWIW, I sincerely doubt there will be WBC pop-up guys. By the time guys are on radars enough to be in the WBC, even in less prominent baseball countries, they've likely been scouted plenty. Not sure if he's getting just a normal minor league deal or an IFA pool contract, but something along these lines did happen!
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Post by jbuttah on Mar 14, 2023 13:34:46 GMT -5
Rare, but last year they used $400k on Cristofher Paniagua, so while rare, later, non-Cuban-defector mid-tier bonus signings do happen. FWIW, I sincerely doubt there will be WBC pop-up guys. By the time guys are on radars enough to be in the WBC, even in less prominent baseball countries, they've likely been scouted plenty. Not sure if he's getting just a normal minor league deal or an IFA pool contract, but something along these lines did happen! The last batter is actually Machado, but anyway, that's quite the changeup he has. Wish the Sox could of used some of their left over money to sign him.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 14, 2023 15:12:50 GMT -5
Rare, but last year they used $400k on Cristofher Paniagua, so while rare, later, non-Cuban-defector mid-tier bonus signings do happen. FWIW, I sincerely doubt there will be WBC pop-up guys. By the time guys are on radars enough to be in the WBC, even in less prominent baseball countries, they've likely been scouted plenty. Not sure if he's getting just a normal minor league deal or an IFA pool contract, but something along these lines did happen! Touché!
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Post by ixnayexxus on Mar 25, 2023 12:29:10 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Mar 26, 2023 18:36:19 GMT -5
Are these guys where the process has been in the works for a while now and teams have done their due diligence in preparation for their impending availability, or is this news to teams who now have to play catch up to do some scouting? Seems like a potentially useful way to allocate some of the leftover money.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 1, 2023 10:47:19 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 1, 2023 12:09:34 GMT -5
He's so hot right now
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Post by kingstephanos on Apr 1, 2023 17:17:16 GMT -5
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Post by spreadbaseballnotluv on Apr 4, 2023 16:46:20 GMT -5
How did baseball come to Uganda? I'm intrigued! I actually made an account on this forum after being a long time lurker because of this comment. I am extremely interested in possible emerging baseball markets like Uganda and would like to share this website which has a long, thorough, informative and extremely interesting history of little league baseball in Uganda: ugandalittleleaguebaseball.org/History.htmIt's super interesting to watch these things happen in real time and honestly if I was the MLB it makes a lot of sense to invest in places that may not have a long history with other sports. There's also a working theory out there that due to recent Venezuelan turmoil and resulting emigration to surrounding Latin American countries that there could be countries where baseball starts to become a lot more popular and is another thing to keep an eye on in the coming decades. Would love to hear from anyone else who might know more about these subjects or maybe has some more resources to look into. Again if you are interested in Ugandan baseball I suggest reading this fascinating history here : ugandalittleleaguebaseball.org/History.htm
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Post by ixnayexxus on Apr 5, 2023 10:13:36 GMT -5
How did baseball come to Uganda? I'm intrigued! I actually made an account on this forum after being a long time lurker because of this comment. I am extremely interested in possible emerging baseball markets like Uganda and would like to share this website which has a long, thorough, informative and extremely interesting history of little league baseball in Uganda: ugandalittleleaguebaseball.org/History.htmIt's super interesting to watch these things happen in real time and honestly if I was the MLB it makes a lot of sense to invest in places that may not have a long history with other sports. There's also a working theory out there that due to recent Venezuelan turmoil and resulting emigration to surrounding Latin American countries that there could be countries where baseball starts to become a lot more popular and is another thing to keep an eye on in the coming decades. Would love to hear from anyone else who might know more about these subjects or maybe has some more resources to look into. Again if you are interested in Ugandan baseball I suggest reading this fascinating history here : ugandalittleleaguebaseball.org/History.htmThe date hasn't been confirmed yet, but Uganda will be playing at the U18 World Cup tournament this year; the US team, as always, will be loaded up with players that will hear their names called in the draft either this year or next, so needless to say, this will be the greatest test that players from Uganda will have ever faced, not to mention a chance for them to perform and be seen by both professional and college scouts in the stands. www.wbsc.org/en/events/2023-u18-baseball-world-cup/news/uganda-qualifies-for-xxi-wbsc-u-18-baseball-world-cupAs for native Venezuelans making their way to neighboring countries and thereby spreading the game; it's certainly something worth monitoring. I always thought that MLB and others could be doing far more in Brazil, as the sport mainly exists within pockets of the country, with several big population centers left out of the picture. Brazil is already reasonably competitive as it is, and I believe baseball has still barely even scratched the surface in the country (it doesn't need to overtake soccer, it just needs to exist as an accessible alternative in a country of approximately 200 million people). Perhaps it's time for someone to take a page out of the 2008 Rays book and attempt to open an academy there; MLB and the various organizations give up on these things too easily. I get that it's a financial issue, but there is something to be said for shouldering short term losses for long term gains.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 5, 2023 10:16:50 GMT -5
The Red Sox have signed a few Brazilians, but I don't think any have gotten out of the complexes.
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Post by spreadbaseballnotluv on Apr 5, 2023 20:34:35 GMT -5
I actually made an account on this forum after being a long time lurker because of this comment. I am extremely interested in possible emerging baseball markets like Uganda and would like to share this website which has a long, thorough, informative and extremely interesting history of little league baseball in Uganda: ugandalittleleaguebaseball.org/History.htmIt's super interesting to watch these things happen in real time and honestly if I was the MLB it makes a lot of sense to invest in places that may not have a long history with other sports. There's also a working theory out there that due to recent Venezuelan turmoil and resulting emigration to surrounding Latin American countries that there could be countries where baseball starts to become a lot more popular and is another thing to keep an eye on in the coming decades. Would love to hear from anyone else who might know more about these subjects or maybe has some more resources to look into. Again if you are interested in Ugandan baseball I suggest reading this fascinating history here : ugandalittleleaguebaseball.org/History.htmThe date hasn't been confirmed yet, but Uganda will be playing at the U18 World Cup tournament this year; the US team, as always, will be loaded up with players that will hear their names called in the draft either this year or next, so needless to say, this will be the greatest test that players from Uganda will have ever faced, not to mention a chance for them to perform and be seen by both professional and college scouts in the stands. www.wbsc.org/en/events/2023-u18-baseball-world-cup/news/uganda-qualifies-for-xxi-wbsc-u-18-baseball-world-cupAs for native Venezuelans making their way to neighboring countries and thereby spreading the game; it's certainly something worth monitoring. I always thought that MLB and others could be doing far more in Brazil, as the sport mainly exists within pockets of the country, with several big population centers left out of the picture. Brazil is already reasonably competitive as it is, and I believe baseball has still barely even scratched the surface in the country (it doesn't need to overtake soccer, it just needs to exist as an accessible alternative in a country of approximately 200 million people). Perhaps it's time for someone to take a page out of the 2008 Rays book and attempt to open an academy there; MLB and the various organizations give up on these things too easily. I get that it's a financial issue, but there is something to be said for shouldering short term losses for long term gains. That awesome, I will have to make a point to pay attention to that tournament. The idea of witnesses an emerging baseball market is fascinating to me and hopefully others here. My personal theory/hope with regards to Venezuelan emigration is that they will help solidify and hopefully spread baseball into other parts of Colombia. As I understand is now baseball in Colombia is played mostly on the Caribbean coast. With most of the Venezuelan emigration happening to Colombia it could become more popular throughout the country or at the very least solidify baseball in the areas its already popular. I am sure somewhere in Colombia right now there is a little Colombia or Venezuelan kid pissed off his no longer the best player in his town lol.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 12, 2023 15:09:23 GMT -5
http://instagr.am/p/Cq8VVafOcm5 Appears to be Juan Valera, a RHP from the DR. I believe the Sox have signed 4-5 guys in the past few months who haven't popped up on the official transactions.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 14, 2023 13:38:06 GMT -5
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Post by wOBA Fett on Apr 14, 2023 13:49:23 GMT -5
Are any of these late signs ranked or are they pivots after losing #2 on the board?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 18, 2023 10:30:37 GMT -5
Official IFA signings: 4/15: RHP Yoelvin Chirino ( link) SS Gabriel Mavarez is official ( link) 4/17: LHP Oscar Sanchez ( link) RHP Emmanuel Polo ( link)
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 20, 2023 11:30:23 GMT -5
This is $80k lower than we have, so implies the guys they signed since January aren't big bonuses.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 20, 2023 11:42:28 GMT -5
So the Red Sox have the 4th most bonus money left:
CWS $1,684,000 CIN $1,201,900 STL $1,039,000 BOS $974,500 ARI $780,500
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Apr 20, 2023 12:17:53 GMT -5
So the Red Sox have the 4th most bonus money left: CWS $1,684,000 CIN $1,201,900 STL $1,039,000 BOS $974,500ARI $780,500 Hmm, I wonder if any of those teams have targets in mind, esp Chicago. I forgot the legality, but could we trade a chunk of that remaining cash to a team along with a guy like Brasier or Kluber in a pure salary dump?
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Post by stevedillard on Apr 20, 2023 12:45:15 GMT -5
So the Red Sox have the 4th most bonus money left: CWS $1,684,000 CIN $1,201,900 STL $1,039,000 BOS $974,500ARI $780,500 It sure suggests we were caught by surprise by Tony Ruiz not taking our $1.2 million, and had no immediate plan B for spending the bulk of the money. Perhaps a surprise player may step in, but this suggests another missed step by the Org. in its "player development" mode (last year not getting prospects or under cap for comp picks on JD/X). Development is volatile and so "winning" happens in the margins. These are two areas where we failed to maximize the marginal chances.
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