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4/16-4/18 Red Sox @ Indians Series Thread
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 16, 2013 6:22:16 GMT -5
4/16 Red Sox (LHP Felix Doubront 0-0 5.40) @ Indians (RHP Ubaldo Jimenez 0-1 6.97) 7:05 pm ET, NESN/WEEI4/17 Red Sox (RHP Alfredo Aceves 0-0 6.75) @ Indians (RHP Justin Masterson 3-0 0.41) 7:05 pm ET, NESN/WEEI4/18 Red Sox (LHP Jon Lester 2-0 1.42) @ Indians (RHP Zach McAllister 1-1 2.19) 7:05 pm ET, NESN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Apr 16, 2013 7:01:44 GMT -5
What an interesting matchup in game 2: One of the more obnoxious characters in major league baseball versus one of the saints.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Apr 16, 2013 9:41:14 GMT -5
What an interesting matchup in game 2: One of the more obnoxious characters in major league baseball versus one of the saints. I'll never forget his interview after he got traded July 31, 2008. Heidi Watney interviewed him after the trade outside the clubhouse. The kid was literally in tears. Leaving a great team and an organization that developed him.I'm sure he thought he'd be around for a long time. For Cleveland. Have read about his off the field work before that and will always be a fan of his even though I'm nowhere near a person of faith that he is.
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Post by sammo420 on Apr 16, 2013 10:44:54 GMT -5
What an interesting matchup in game 2: One of the more obnoxious characters in major league baseball versus one of the saints. I'll never forget his interview after he got traded July 31, 2008. Heidi Watney interviewed him after the trade outside the clubhouse. The kid was literally in tears. Leaving a great team and an organization that developed him.I'm sure he thought he'd be around for a long time. For Cleveland. Have read about his off the field work before that and will always be a fan of his even though I'm nowhere near a person of faith that he is. He's also doing a great job at making me look like an idiot because I thought there was little chance and I do mean LITTLE chance that he had this kind of talent in him. Of course I always pulled for him and still do. If anybody has to be the one that got away I'm glad its him.
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Post by bluechip on Apr 16, 2013 11:11:28 GMT -5
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Post by jmei on Apr 16, 2013 11:18:16 GMT -5
Masterson's going to have a field day with a very righty-heavy lineup.
Also, Hanrahan DLed, Steven Wright called up. I imagine Wright is going to be the long-man for now, as he's never really pitched out of the bullpen since he became a knuckleball pitcher.
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Apr 16, 2013 11:22:20 GMT -5
Or might he start instead of Aceves?
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 16, 2013 11:37:53 GMT -5
Aceves remains in the rotation according to reports. Wright likely to be a mop up guy/insurance policy at this point. Kind of a tough situation to pitch a knuckler out of relief in a close game
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Post by bluechip on Apr 16, 2013 12:09:32 GMT -5
Aceves remains in the rotation according to reports. Wright likely to be a mop up guy/insurance policy at this point. Kind of a tough situation to pitch a knuckler out of relief in a close game You one would think that with the wild pitches and walks, you would want to start him with the bases empty.
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Post by bsout2 on Apr 16, 2013 13:04:04 GMT -5
Don't know where to put this. But is anyone else a little mad that they are going to just go ahead and let Ortiz come back on Friday with less then 6 games played? All so he can get his bonus and be happy.
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 16, 2013 13:37:15 GMT -5
I couldn't care less. It's not like the $ hurts the team, and if it makes him 1% happier, then it's worth it. I'll be much more concerned if he doesn't appear ready to play, or they have to start sitting him every other day for "rest"
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Post by zimmerdown on Apr 16, 2013 13:54:27 GMT -5
I always liked Will Middlebrooks. He just made himself an instant fan favorite. Class act all the way.
"I can't wait to put on my jersey today...I get to play for the strongest city out there" @middlebrooks
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Post by bsout2 on Apr 16, 2013 13:56:05 GMT -5
I couldn't care less. It's not like the $ hurts the team, and if it makes him 1% happier, then it's worth it. I'll be much more concerned if he doesn't appear ready to play, or they have to start sitting him every other day for "rest" That's my concern. I'm worried they will have to keep resting him and he might not be ready. But he is going to say he is ready because I think he has something like 4 million dollars on the line if he does not come back Friday.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 15:04:39 GMT -5
Anyone at all concerned about Napoli's, Drew's, Middlebrooks, Bradley, and Gomes stuggles offensively so far? Drew, Napoli, and Gomes usually start slow. Middlebrooks, although I really hate to say it, appears to have hit a sophomore slump. But he can break out of it with more patience and studying his scouting reports of pitchers. Bradley at this point just plainly is not ready to handle big league pitching right now, and will likely be in Pawtucket when Papi is back. He still has a bright future, but he needs more seasoning in triple-A. It is very early in the season though and there is a lot of baseball left, so there is no need to be overly worried right now.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 16, 2013 15:13:55 GMT -5
Don't know where to put this. But is anyone else a little mad that they are going to just go ahead and let Ortiz come back on Friday with less then 6 games played? All so he can get his bonus and be happy. Note that he'd been playing in XST before going to Pawtucket as well. The question is whether he's ready, not the number of games he's played in.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 16, 2013 15:21:44 GMT -5
Masterson's going to have a field day with a very righty-heavy lineup. Also, Hanrahan DLed, Steven Wright called up. I imagine Wright is going to be the long-man for now, as he's never really pitched out of the bullpen since he became a knuckleball pitcher. ... only if they decide to run one out against him. Might be the perfect time to stick Carp in at DH. With Nava at first, Bradley in left, and Saltalamachhia in there, it becomes a very lefty-heavy lineup, with only Middlebrooks and Pedroia batting from the right side.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 16, 2013 15:23:28 GMT -5
Anyone at all concerned about Napoli's, Drew's, Middlebrooks, Bradley, and Gomes stuggles offensively so far? Drew, Napoli, and Gomes usually start slow. Middlebrooks, although I really hate to say it, appears to have hit a sophomore slump. But he can break out of it with more patience and studying his scouting reports of pitchers. Bradley at this point just plainly is not ready to handle big league pitching right now, and will likely be in Pawtucket when Papi is back. He still has a bright future, but he needs more seasoning in triple-A. It is very early in the season though and there is a lot of baseball left, so there is no need to be overly worried right now. Nope. I'll worry about that in another couple of hundred at bats - although Bradley surely won't get that many.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 16, 2013 15:24:30 GMT -5
Anyone at all concerned about Napoli's, Drew's, Middlebrooks, Bradley, and Gomes stuggles offensively so far? Drew, Napoli, and Gomes usually start slow. Middlebrooks, although I really hate to say it, appears to have hit a sophomore slump. But he can break out of it with more patience and studying his scouting reports of pitchers. Bradley at this point just plainly is not ready to handle big league pitching right now, and will likely be in Pawtucket when Papi is back. He still has a bright future, but he needs more seasoning in triple-A. It is very early in the season though and there is a lot of baseball left, so there is no need to be overly worried right now. Middlebrooks has always had terrible K/BB rates. There. Now he'll hit three home runs tonight.
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Post by bluechip on Apr 16, 2013 15:47:06 GMT -5
Anyone at all concerned about Napoli's, Drew's, Middlebrooks, Bradley, and Gomes stuggles offensively so far? Drew, Napoli, and Gomes usually start slow. Middlebrooks, although I really hate to say it, appears to have hit a sophomore slump. But he can break out of it with more patience and studying his scouting reports of pitchers. Bradley at this point just plainly is not ready to handle big league pitching right now, and will likely be in Pawtucket when Papi is back. He still has a bright future, but he needs more seasoning in triple-A. It is very early in the season though and there is a lot of baseball left, so there is no need to be overly worried right now. Middlebrooks has a bit of Dave Kingman to his offensive game. Much better defender of course.
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Post by jmei on Apr 16, 2013 15:55:37 GMT -5
This early in the season, a lot of player performance will just be SSS curiosities. But here are some that stuck out to me:
-Mike Napoli has a 1/16 BB/K so far (2% BB, 31.4% K). He's hit for good power (.200 ISO) and he's always struck out a fair amount (career 25.5% K), but the lack of walks is disconcerting (career 11.7% BB). He is swinging a lot more overall (51.1% swing, 42.4% career) but most of that is at pitches in the zone (74.5%, 63% career). Seems like the main culprit is a significant drop in contact on pitches outside the zone (53.9%, 62.7% career).
-A bunch of the other struggling hitters are having bad BABIP luck. Bradley (.158), Drew (.182), Middlebrooks (.200), and Gomes (.250) are all well below their averages. That said, they're also all struggling with strikeouts (Bradley (31.6% K), Drew (26.3% K), Middlebrooks (26.5% K), Gomes (28.0% K)), so it's not all bad luck. Saltalamacchia is also striking out a whopping 40% of the time.
-Daniel Nava has five walks and only two strikeouts in 33 PAs (15.2% BB, 6.1% K). That's how he's hitting .360 despite a .286 BABIP. His overall .360/.485/.760 line looks pretty great.
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Post by soxfanatic on Apr 16, 2013 16:06:51 GMT -5
Sox starters are leading the Majors in ERA (1.99), xFIP (2.90) and K/9 (10.45) and they're fourth in WAR (1.9). Needless to say they're doing a pretty damn impressive job so far.
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Post by soxfanatic on Apr 16, 2013 16:10:02 GMT -5
Ellsbury CF Victorino RF Pedroia 2B Napoli 1B Middlebrooks 3B Nava LF Gomes DH Ross C Ciriaco SS Pitching: LHP Felix Doubront (0-0, 5.40).
That's a pretty right handed heavy lineup versus Jimenez. His splits are pretty even over the last couple of years though.
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Post by okin15 on Apr 16, 2013 16:27:41 GMT -5
Sox starters are leading the Majors in ERA (1.99), xFIP (2.90) and K/9 (10.45) and they're fourth in WAR (1.9). Needless to say they're doing a pretty damn impressive job so far. I was going to make some kind of comment about how most of that excellence has been Lester and Buch, but that's simply not true. The other 3 have better K/9, and a 39/9 K/BB ratio. Basically Doubront had a tough BABIP against and that's it. Really impressive stuff from these guys, and i'd expect the results will regress to the underlying stats from both ends. Hopefully they can keep up these rates.
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 16, 2013 16:45:30 GMT -5
Starting pitching so far has been pretty much a best case scenario for the talent on the team, while the offense has been fairly underwhelming. I've always thought Lester/Clay had enough to be top flight SP, but if they can get above league average performance out of 3-5, they have a chance to have one of the best top to bottom staffs in the league
Both pitching and offense will likely trend back towards average over the next few months, but right now the pitching is certainly making up for the so-so offensive production
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Post by sammo420 on Apr 16, 2013 16:48:05 GMT -5
Sox starters are leading the Majors in ERA (1.99), xFIP (2.90) and K/9 (10.45) and they're fourth in WAR (1.9). Needless to say they're doing a pretty damn impressive job so far. I was going to make some kind of comment about how most of that excellence has been Lester and Buch, but that's simply not true. The other 3 have better K/9, and a 39/9 K/BB ratio. Basically Doubront had a tough BABIP against and that's it. Really impressive stuff from these guys, and i'd expect the results will regress to the underlying stats from both ends. Hopefully they can keep up these rates. I was never upset at the idea of trading Aviles for Farrell but I also never believed he'd magically fix out pitching staff either. Except for Bard he's turning me into a believer.
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