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Post by incandenza on Dec 17, 2022 11:59:50 GMT -5
I just want to reiterate—we’re not having any more of the “turn every thread into a referendum on Bloom” stuff. It’s the same five people talking in circles. We’re just going to start deleting posts and, if you don’t cut it out, banning members. Okay, but I think there are substantive points about approach to 40-man roster building being discussed here. I would move comments to the Chaim Bloom thread but that got locked. |
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Post by benzinger on Dec 17, 2022 12:44:47 GMT -5
I just want to reiterate—we’re not having any more of the “turn every thread into a referendum on Bloom” stuff. It’s the same five people talking in circles. We’re just going to start deleting posts and, if you don’t cut it out, banning members. So….uhhh..how are we supposed to have a substantive conversation about the 40-man roster without being able to mention the guy tasked with building that roster? |
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Post by greatscottcooper on Dec 17, 2022 12:55:30 GMT -5
I just want to reiterate—we’re not having any more of the “turn every thread into a referendum on Bloom” stuff. It’s the same five people talking in circles. We’re just going to start deleting posts and, if you don’t cut it out, banning members. So….uhhh..how are we supposed to have a substantive conversation about the 40-man roster without being able to mention the guy tasked with building that roster? There’s a Stark difference between name dropping Bloom “I think he will do this” or “I think he won’t do that” and endless bashing of him in a way that’s been argued endlessly here and everywhere else. It’s also off topic. It should be very easy to talk about the 40-man without it being a discussion about one’s thoughts on Bloom (or whoever it’s in charge of building that roster). I apologize if this post continues to veer this thread off course, I’d deemed inappropriate I will not be offended if removed |
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Post by wOBA Fett on Dec 17, 2022 17:52:54 GMT -5
Can we DFA Brasier now and avoid having to pay his 2023 salary? Arbitration projections are that he will cost $2.3M
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Post by prospectjunkie21 on Dec 17, 2022 17:56:20 GMT -5
I just want to reiterate—we’re not having any more of the “turn every thread into a referendum on Bloom” stuff. It’s the same five people talking in circles. We’re just going to start deleting posts and, if you don’t cut it out, banning members. THANK YOU So discussing the decisions of the person responsible for the dumpster fire off-season and the state of the 40 man roster, including the handling of rule five, the luxury tax, free agency and everything that has gone into making a last place team worse is off limits? |
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 17, 2022 17:59:12 GMT -5
So discussing the decisions of the person responsible for the dumpster fire off-season and the state of the 40 man roster, including the handling of rule five, the luxury tax, free agency and everything that has gone into making a last place team worse is off limits? No. Its the fact that every damn thread gets turned into it. Making reading the threads impossible |
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Post by prospectjunkie21 on Dec 17, 2022 18:05:03 GMT -5
So discussing the decisions of the person responsible for the dumpster fire off-season and the state of the 40 man roster, including the handling of rule five, the luxury tax, free agency and everything that has gone into making a last place team worse is off limits? No. Its the fact that every damn thread gets turned into it. Making reading the threads impossible Probably because Bloom, his decision making, the last place finish, the lack of improvement and the seeming lack of a true plan (straddling mediocrity) are front and foremost important to everyone following this team. Especially people who follow the team close enough to read and comment in these thread. Bloom is the Elephant in the room for sox fans. |
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Post by jmei on Dec 17, 2022 18:38:36 GMT -5
We are not turning every thread into a rehash of past roster decisions made by this front office. It is fine to discuss new moves or potential future moves. It is not fine to derail the thread by relitigating past moves. If you want to do that, start a separate thread or find another place on the internet to argue about it.
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Post by jimoh on Dec 17, 2022 20:00:14 GMT -5
The problem is like a trial where Jack McCoy wants to talk about the defendant's prior bad acts and the judge rules that these are not relevant to the case at hand so they cannot be mentioned.
Let's obey the judges.
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Post by prospectjunkie21 on Dec 17, 2022 20:05:44 GMT -5
We are not turning every thread into a rehash of past roster decisions made by this front office. It is fine to discuss new moves or potential future moves. It is not fine to derail the thread by relitigating past moves. If you want to do that, start a separate thread or find another place on the internet to argue about it. Past roster decisions make up a large portion of the 2023 40 man roster. They have brought in like 4 guys. This thread is the place to discuss the 2023 40 man and how the roster was put together as it stands for 2023 is extremel relevant. Also telling people to go somewhere else on a site that relies on user donations, clicks, and engagement, and a podcast that does the same is pretty rude to be honest. Especially because you don't like the tone of the conversation regarding the state of the 40 man roster which is the topic of this thread. |
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Post by kingofthetrill on Dec 17, 2022 20:09:47 GMT -5
Past roster decisions make up a large portion of the 2023 40 man roster. They have brought in like 4 guys. This thread is the place to discuss the 2023 40 man and how the roster was put together as it stands for 2023 is extremel relevant. Also telling people to go somewhere else on a site that relies on user donations, clicks, and engagement, and a podcast that does the same is pretty rude to be honest. Especially because you don't like the tone of the conversation regarding the state of the 40 man roster which is the topic of this thread. Judging by your post count, I would venture a guess that you haven't been around long enough to see just how draining and mind numbing it is to see every thread derailed and topics repeated with unsubstantive posts by the same people that can't let things go and haven't discovered how to ignore each other yet. I think you would eventually come to understand where our moderators are coming from, since I'm guessing that they aren't allowed to ignore/block anyone like everyone else can. |
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Post by prospectjunkie21 on Dec 17, 2022 20:15:19 GMT -5
Past roster decisions make up a large portion of the 2023 40 man roster. They have brought in like 4 guys. This thread is the place to discuss the 2023 40 man and how the roster was put together as it stands for 2023 is extremel relevant. Also telling people to go somewhere else on a site that relies on user donations, clicks, and engagement, and a podcast that does the same is pretty rude to be honest. Especially because you don't like the tone of the conversation regarding the state of the 40 man roster which is the topic of this thread. Judging by your post count, I would venture a guess that you haven't been around long enough to see just how draining and mind numbing it is to see every thread derailed and topics repeated with unsubstantive posts by the same people that can't let things go and haven't discovered how to ignore each other yet. I think you would eventually come to understand where our moderators are coming from, since I'm guessing that they aren't allowed to ignore/block anyone like everyone else can. [br I have been following for a long time. Read daily. Don't post a lot. Listen to every podcast. Have donated. It's one of my daily reads. Follow the guys on Twitter. All of it. Just don't post much but the frustration of what has going on motivated me to engage. |
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Post by kingofthetrill on Dec 17, 2022 20:32:18 GMT -5
My apologies for misjudging. I just think that with all of the headaches (understatement) reading a lot of the threads this offseason that I can only imagine what they would devolve into without all of the hard work that our moderating team does.
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Post by benzinger on Dec 18, 2022 2:35:22 GMT -5
No. It’s the fact that every damn thread gets turned into it. Making reading the threads impossible !!!!!!!! Same crap in every thread gets old. Consolidate it to one thread, then those of us tired as hell of reading it do not have to. I have been going to other sites for something refreshing as it is the same tiring people over, and over, and over. I have been adding to the those muted, but the shit runs through page after page. Yes, I’m sure there is tons of “refreshing” MLB content on other websites in the middle of December. Very plausible. |
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Post by Smittyw on Dec 18, 2022 8:07:10 GMT -5
I just want to reiterate—we’re not having any more of the “turn every thread into a referendum on Bloom” stuff. It’s the same five people talking in circles. We’re just going to start deleting posts and, if you don’t cut it out, banning members. Okay, but I think there are substantive points about approach to 40-man roster building being discussed here. I would move comments to the Chaim Bloom thread but that got locked.That would have seemed like the ideal place to discuss, well, Chaim Bloom and his job performance (which is, in fact, a timely and relevant topic) and keep that from overtaking every other thread, but what do I know? |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 18, 2022 8:25:29 GMT -5
Okay, but I think there are substantive points about approach to 40-man roster building being discussed here. I would move comments to the Chaim Bloom thread but that got locked.That would have seemed like the ideal place to discuss, well, Chaim Bloom and his job performance (which is, in fact, a timely and relevant topic) and keep that from overtaking every other thread, but what do I know? See no evil. Hear no evil. Speak no evil. Post no evil. As Kevin Bacon's character in Animal House proclaimed, "All is well" lol Seriously, every thread shouldn't devolve into a referendum on Bloom, but somehow all roads, with each new move or non move somehow lead there. Too bad there wasn't posting a hundred years ago. Can you imagine? The next poster who bitches about Babe Ruth being sold is getting banned. This is a thread about Sam Jones who just got sold. No. This thread is about Bullet Joe Bush who just got sold. So tired of hearing about Babe Ruth. He was undependable, hit 29 fluky homers and is a 1 man team that finished under .500 in 1919 and the team needed to be broken apart. Think of all that money freed up. The money to grab Del Pratt is just the start to bigger and better things. How dare you question Frazee's motives. He is champion from 1918. What have you ever done? Stop beating the dead Ruth horse. In time nobody will ever remember or care. Haha. Can you imagine, 25 different threads all leading back to Ruth and all the tension it creates? We're lucky Betts and Bogaerts aren't Ruth and didn't go to the Yankees. Lol |
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Post by jmei on Dec 18, 2022 10:00:42 GMT -5
To be clear, this isn’t a discussion. Feel free to start a new Bloom thread if you’d like, but we’re not clogging other threads with it. Our house, our rules.
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Post by prospectjunkie21 on Dec 18, 2022 10:31:41 GMT -5
To be clear, this isn’t a discussion. Feel free to start a new Bloom thread if you’d like, but we’re not clogging other threads with it. Our house, our rules. I have followed all of the sox prospects stuff since high-school. Huge fan. Read every thread. Don't post much, but to be honest you are pretty rude and a poor representation of the site. And quite frankly telling people to go somewhere else is bad business for a site that relies on adds, donations etc. You're mad that people are discussing the decision maker of the team in a thread on the 40 man after you locked the bloom thread and then telling fans and followers of the site to go somewhere else. A. Bad business, B. Flat out rude, C. Weird power trip in a place full of passionate, educated, baseball fans that are all frustrated with watching the core of the greatest team in franchise history be whittled down to Verdugo. You're going to tell me go somewhere else. Our house Our rules. Going to be an empty house treating people that way. And it comes off as extremely arrogant and egotistical. If you're moderating for this grass roots site you should be encouraging clicks, downloads of the pod, and as much engagement and conversation as possible. The more people reading, engaging, discussing, downloading and donating the better for one of the best sox sites/resources available. Bottom line is you shouldn't be rude and you have been several times and you're costing Chris, Mike, and Ian and all their hardwork with a bad attitude. |
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Post by kingofthetrill on Dec 18, 2022 11:00:24 GMT -5
To be honest, I'd rather it be an empty house than what threads have devolved into this offseason. Certain people don't need to always get the last word in and infinitely respond and talk at one another, weighing everyone else down. It's ok to go a day or two without news or conversation. There is a world outside. I wouldn't be opposed to mods locking threads until new news occurs.
Sometimes quality >>>> quantity. There are other places that accept everyone regardless of posting quality. SP has higher standards.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Dec 18, 2022 11:08:46 GMT -5
To be clear, this isn’t a discussion. Feel free to start a new Bloom thread if you’d like, but we’re not clogging other threads with it. Our house, our rules. Yeah, but no customer, no job. A common-sense middle ground has to be found. I totally get the frustration with gratuitous comments about Bloom popping up in threads that then veer off into that tired discussion. OTOH, it's hard to avoid him entirely in discussions about roster composition. And there's no other place to go because the thread that was dedicated to him has been shut down. |
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Post by benzinger on Dec 18, 2022 11:11:46 GMT -5
To be clear, this isn’t a discussion. Feel free to start a new Bloom thread if you’d like, but we’re not clogging other threads with it. Our house, our rules. Yeah, but not customer, no job. A common-sense middle ground has to be found. I totally get the frustration with gratuitous comments about Bloom popping up in threads that then veer off into that tired discussion. OTOH, it's hard to avoid him entirely in discussions about roster composition. And there's no other place to go because the thread that was dedicated to him has been shut down. I took the Mods’ advice and started a new thread about The GM That Can’t Be Named. Hopefully they leave this one open. forum.soxprospects.com/thread/6668/red-sox-gm-doing |
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Post by cdj on Dec 18, 2022 11:27:52 GMT -5
Yeah, but not customer, no job. A common-sense middle ground has to be found. I totally get the frustration with gratuitous comments about Bloom popping up in threads that then veer off into that tired discussion. OTOH, it's hard to avoid him entirely in discussions about roster composition. And there's no other place to go because the thread that was dedicated to him has been shut down. I took the Mods’ advice and started a new thread about The GM That Can’t Be Named. Hopefully they leave this one open. forum.soxprospects.com/thread/6668/red-sox-gm-doingHe’s not even the gm lol Stop being little piss babies because you can’t ruin every thread guys |
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Post by cdj on Dec 18, 2022 11:31:00 GMT -5
To be honest, I'd rather it be an empty house than what threads have devolved into this offseason. Certain people don't need to always get the last word in and infinitely respond and talk at one another, weighing everyone else down. It's ok to go a day or two without news or conversation. There is a world outside. I wouldn't be opposed to mods locking threads until new news occurs. Sometimes quality >>>> quantity. There are other places that accept everyone regardless of posting quality. SP has higher standards. Literally not a single person would miss the people crying into their keyboards right now because they can’t pollute the entire board. You’re absolutely right |
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Post by TearsIn04 on Dec 18, 2022 11:47:48 GMT -5
He’s not even the gm lol Stop being little piss babies because you can’t ruin every thread guys I don't think I'm a piss baby who ruins every thread. As I said, I'm on the side of a common-sense middle ground. And I'm not a Never Bloomer by any stretch. I think he's done some good things since he's been here. But I'm frustrated with him recently. |
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Post by cdj on Dec 18, 2022 11:49:45 GMT -5
He’s not even the gm lol Stop being little piss babies because you can’t ruin every thread guys I don't think I'm a piss baby who ruins every thread. As I said, I'm on the side of a common-sense middle ground. And I'm not a Never Bloomer by any stretch. I think he's done some good things since he's been here. But I'm frustrated with him recently. Totally reasonable, what’s not reasonable are the same people polluting every thread with their repetitive garbage |
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