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Post by crossedsabres8 on Apr 9, 2023 15:03:12 GMT -5
Outside of the rather major negative of Duvall....
Really nice to see Casas have two hard hits off lefties. I think that's 3/5 of his hard hits this year off lefties.
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 9, 2023 15:06:39 GMT -5
Positives:
1. Winck looks like a shutdown reliever, a real weapon out of the pen. 2. Kutter looks like he can be a great swing/spot starter, upgrade the mop up long relief once Whitlock comes back.
3. Casas looks like lefties won't be the Kryptonite they seemed last season.
4. Mr Refsnyder taking pitches/plate discipline
Negatives.
1. DUVALL
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 9, 2023 15:07:57 GMT -5
It's honestly sad to see them trotting out the corpse of Miguel Cabrera still. Since the end of the *Obama* administration he's produced -2.2 fWAR. ….aren’t long term contracts great.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 9, 2023 15:12:40 GMT -5
The Winckowski case is pretty interesting. He’s probably the teams 8th starter right now? But he’s also looked awesome in the pen. The MLB team, if relatively healthy, is better with him in the bullpen, but they’d probably want to start him at some point. So you send him down to AAA when Bello gets back to keep him stretched, or you keep him in the majors and send down a second one of Ort/Kelly//Brasier?
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 9, 2023 15:16:11 GMT -5
The Winckowski case is pretty interesting. He’s probably the teams 8th starter right now? But he’s also looked awesome in the pen. The MLB team, if relatively healthy, is better with him in the bullpen, but they’d probably want to start him at some point. So you send him down to AAA when Bello gets back to keep him stretched, or you keep him in the majors and send down a second one of Ort/Kelly//Brasier? Brasier goes first. Ort hasn't been spectacular, but his stuff yesterday in mop up looked really solid as he K'd the side.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 9, 2023 15:19:57 GMT -5
With all the lefty starters coming, I think you need to go Kiké CF/Chang SS and then you can call up any of Dalbec/Duran/Valdez/Hamilton to the bench. Starting Duran/Tapia with a platoon disadvantage over and over again is really not acceptable.
If Duvall goes to 60 day IL then you might call Allen up instead
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Post by wildsox on Apr 9, 2023 15:26:47 GMT -5
Duvall - with our lack of Righty batters and Outfielders he's really the worst possible guy we can lose besides Raffy
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Post by backwardsk on Apr 9, 2023 15:33:54 GMT -5
This is a bad bad sign.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 9, 2023 15:35:54 GMT -5
The Winckowski case is pretty interesting. He’s probably the teams 8th starter right now? But he’s also looked awesome in the pen. The MLB team, if relatively healthy, is better with him in the bullpen, but they’d probably want to start him at some point. So you send him down to AAA when Bello gets back to keep him stretched, or you keep him in the majors and send down a second one of Ort/Kelly//Brasier? Going to him for one in the 7th with the score close today says to me that he's a major league reliever for the foreseeable future.
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Post by blizzards39 on Apr 9, 2023 15:36:37 GMT -5
Best case would probably be a small break above the wrist and back in a couple months Wow wow. Pump the breaks. We don’t know how bad this is. Didn’t seem that much pain, but obviously the same wrist as just repaired. Most likely going to miss some time. All the lefties creates an issue. Mondesi is not close. Not sure what the answer is. Dalbac at SS seems more like an emergency move.
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Post by backwardsk on Apr 9, 2023 15:42:03 GMT -5
I think the conversation needs to be made for making Pivetta available in a trade for a middle infielder that can start. Probably would be the best move you can make with Kiké struggling at SS.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 9, 2023 15:43:45 GMT -5
The Winckowski case is pretty interesting. He’s probably the teams 8th starter right now? But he’s also looked awesome in the pen. The MLB team, if relatively healthy, is better with him in the bullpen, but they’d probably want to start him at some point. So you send him down to AAA when Bello gets back to keep him stretched, or you keep him in the majors and send down a second one of Ort/Kelly//Brasier? Going to him for one in the 7th with the score close today says to me that he's a major league reliever for the foreseeable future. Eh I think he was going to pitch today regardless and because it was close and Crawford made it through 5 they used him this way instead of for multiple innings. My guess at this moment, if all pitchers stay/get healthy the send down order is: Crawford, Kelly, Winckowski, Ort, Brasier. Someone probably gets hurt before it comes to it, and bad outings by any of them could change that.
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Post by manfred on Apr 9, 2023 15:50:58 GMT -5
Blargh.
How do we know the injury in Pitt so fast and nothing on Duvall?? I’m just sitting here waiting…
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 9, 2023 15:54:44 GMT -5
Going to him for one in the 7th with the score close today says to me that he's a major league reliever for the foreseeable future. Eh I think he was going to pitch today regardless and because it was close and Crawford made it through 5 they used him this way instead of for multiple innings. My guess at this moment, if all pitchers stay/get healthy the send down order is: Crawford, Kelly, Winckowski, Ort, Brasier. Someone probably gets hurt before it comes to it, and bad outings by any of them could change that. Not according to the radio broadcast, not that they're opinions are a reflection of who the front office deems best fits the pen , but they were convinced that Today's performance secured Crawford a spot on the team.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 9, 2023 15:59:36 GMT -5
Ok folks, settle down. This literally tells us nothing. And as voiced already, if Duvall goes down, Dalbec is the temporary move seeing he can play SS and with all the LHP starters the team has to face in the next 10 days or so.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 9, 2023 16:01:05 GMT -5
Eh I think he was going to pitch today regardless and because it was close and Crawford made it through 5 they used him this way instead of for multiple innings. My guess at this moment, if all pitchers stay/get healthy the send down order is: Crawford, Kelly, Winckowski, Ort, Brasier. Someone probably gets hurt before it comes to it, and bad outings by any of them could change that. Not according to the radio broadcast, not that they're opinions are a reflection of who the front office deems best fits the pen , but they were convinced that Today's performance secured Crawford a spot on the team. That’s really interesting, we’ll see I guess but I personally doubt it. They need him as starter depth. But maybe they’ll give him another start and move Houck to the bullpen sooner, but I at least prefer keeping Houck stretched longer as well. They could go 6 man for a turn through as well.
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 9, 2023 16:03:45 GMT -5
Ok folks, settle down. This literally tells us nothing. And as voiced already, if Duvall goes down, Dalbec is the temporary move seeing he can play SS and with all the LHP starters the team has to face in the next 10 days or so. But can Dalbec really play SS for a full game? It seems to me he'd be more of a one to two inning emergency replacement, not a guy who you call up to shift Kiké' to center.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 9, 2023 16:05:51 GMT -5
Also, I think the enthusiasm around Valdez right now needs to be tampered down. He’s off to a very slow start in AAA. Not to mention, if you think Kiké and Arroyo are bad defensively, Valdez is not your man…
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 9, 2023 16:07:47 GMT -5
I think I'd have more faith in Hamilton as a SS and potentially adding value with SB's if he can reach. That's if the plan is to call up an infielder to move Kiké to center
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 9, 2023 16:10:14 GMT -5
Ok folks, settle down. This literally tells us nothing. And as voiced already, if Duvall goes down, Dalbec is the temporary move seeing he can play SS and with all the LHP starters the team has to face in the next 10 days or so. But can Dalbec really play SS for a full game? It seems to me he'd be more of a one to two inning emergency replacement, not a guy who you call up to shift Kiké' to center. He’s been serviceable when has been out there and got a lot of reps at short this spring. It’s not the most ideal, but he would be the backup for Yu. Calling up someone like Duran, Hamilton or Valdez is not smart with so many lefties to face in the coming days. I mean the latter two are hardly even big league ready. That said, if Duvall is down for 10+ days, I see Duran being swapped for Dalbec after this tough stretch of lefties.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 9, 2023 16:13:00 GMT -5
Great win!
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 9, 2023 16:17:15 GMT -5
I'd assume you guys are better at getting up to date info than me.... Any initial reports on Duvo
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 9, 2023 16:19:07 GMT -5
Maybe that means no break? But there are worse things than a break
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Post by wildsox on Apr 9, 2023 16:19:33 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Apr 9, 2023 16:26:01 GMT -5
Maybe that means no break? But there are worse things than a break Maybe it means their medical guy who they want to look at the X-rays has off for Easter.
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