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Post by taiwansox on Apr 11, 2023 19:39:01 GMT -5
Casas has been pretty sloppy defensively also with scooping balls, I hope he isn’t our Greg Bird…
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Post by dirtdog on Apr 11, 2023 19:39:43 GMT -5
Putting the the finishing touches on a fugly loss here.
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 11, 2023 19:39:48 GMT -5
Casas is smiling at first after making an error down 7-1. Not what I wanted to see.
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Post by yuchangclan on Apr 11, 2023 19:40:29 GMT -5
Building a MLB team with no solid option at Catcher, SS or CF is how all the smart GM’s do it these days, right? Ignoring the fact that our starting SS and CF are injured, or...? The catchers aren't bad either; it's a really thin position leaguewide. The report on Story is that his shoulder is too messed up to play SS anyway. So, I am counting him as a 2B. Also, Duvall is not a CF. He barely played there during his career and hardly looked like Otis Nixon out there when he did. So, I think my point stands.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 11, 2023 19:41:02 GMT -5
"It's going to be awesome" ~Chaim Bloom
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Post by Montana Lemonious-Craig on Apr 11, 2023 19:41:29 GMT -5
Building a MLB team with no solid option at Catcher, SS or CF is how all the smart GM’s do it these days, right? Well, the Red Sox FO is smarter than everybody else. Isn't that obvious? Brilliant decision to lowball Xander during spring training 2021. Do you honestly see any scenario where Xander takes an offer that’s less than 10+ years?
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Post by shagworthy on Apr 11, 2023 19:42:01 GMT -5
Nah, Schiraldi did have an ERA of 1.4 in 1986. Ort could never have 2 months like that. I was thinking John Wasdin
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Post by yuchangclan on Apr 11, 2023 19:42:15 GMT -5
How long of a leash are the Sox going to give Whitlock as a starter? I hope they didn't Bard him out of the league by trying to stretch him out into a starter. Was thinking the same. Whitlock was one of the best set-up guys in the league, so why not take him out of that role and turn him into another Pivetta in the rotation instead? Fantastic.
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Post by dirtdog on Apr 11, 2023 19:42:33 GMT -5
"It's going to be awesome" ~Chaim Bloom Maybe he momentarily forgot which team he was working for.
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Post by terriblehondo on Apr 11, 2023 19:44:14 GMT -5
How long of a leash are the Sox going to give Whitlock as a starter? I hope they didn't Bard him out of the league by trying to stretch him out into a starter. I don't know if he is a starter but you have got to give him some time. 2 maybe 3 more starts until he is totally built up. Need to give him a chance to fail.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 11, 2023 19:46:12 GMT -5
Well, the Red Sox FO is smarter than everybody else. Isn't that obvious? Brilliant decision to lowball Xander during spring training 2021. Do you honestly see any scenario where Xander takes an offer that’s less than 10+ years? Yes. During spring training 2021 if the Sox had given him a Story like extension he would have taken it. Once it got to free agency, no, there was no way that 160 million contract was going to cut it. They lost him during spring training 2021.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 11, 2023 19:46:23 GMT -5
McGuire is elite
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 11, 2023 19:48:12 GMT -5
Nah, Schiraldi did have an ERA of 1.4 in 1986. Ort could never have 2 months like that. I was thinking John Wasdin Starting to feel like 2022 2.0
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 11, 2023 19:48:25 GMT -5
How long of a leash are the Sox going to give Whitlock as a starter? I hope they didn't Bard him out of the league by trying to stretch him out into a starter. Was thinking the same. Whitlock was one of the best set-up guys in the league, so why not take him out of that role and turn him into another Pivetta in the rotation instead? Fantastic. Whitlock couldn't pitch on back to back days like a typical reliever. I hope they dont have to put him back into that role. It would really suck if the Sox can't develop starting pitchers and can only develop 3 inning hybrid pitchers.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 11, 2023 19:48:54 GMT -5
Nah, Schiraldi did have an ERA of 1.4 in 1986. Ort could never have 2 months like that. I was thinking John Wasdin Way back Wasdin. Oh man. That poor guy, hey, he made it to the Show, credit to him.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 11, 2023 19:49:10 GMT -5
Kiké is just killing us with the bat right now. .086 - last hit was on April 2
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 11, 2023 19:49:50 GMT -5
Was thinking the same. Whitlock was one of the best set-up guys in the league, so why not take him out of that role and turn him into another Pivetta in the rotation instead? Fantastic. Whitlock couldn't pitch on back to back days like a typical reliever. I hope they dont have to put him back into that role. It would really suck if the Sox can't develop starting pitchers and can only develop 3 inning hybrid pitchers. If he were on the Rays he'd be a HoFer. Made Jeffery Springs look elite.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 11, 2023 19:51:27 GMT -5
Whitlock couldn't pitch on back to back days like a typical reliever. I hope they dont have to put him back into that role. It would really suck if the Sox can't develop starting pitchers and can only develop 3 inning hybrid pitchers. If he were on the Rays he'd be a HoFer. Made Jeffery Springs look elite. Yeah I don't know how they do it. Springs was terrible with the Sox. They develop pitchers, cheerleaders them up, spit them out. And keep the wheels turning.
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Post by wildsox on Apr 11, 2023 19:51:38 GMT -5
Tampa is just doing everything well right now
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 11, 2023 19:51:41 GMT -5
Whitlock couldn't pitch on back to back days like a typical reliever. I hope they dont have to put him back into that role. It would really suck if the Sox can't develop starting pitchers and can only develop 3 inning hybrid pitchers. If he were on the Rays he'd be a HoFer. Made Jeffery Springs look elite. probably true. sox pitching staff and dave bush's brilliant gameplan for whitlock was sinkers up in the zone all night
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 11, 2023 19:51:57 GMT -5
Whitlock couldn't pitch on back to back days like a typical reliever. I hope they dont have to put him back into that role. It would really suck if the Sox can't develop starting pitchers and can only develop 3 inning hybrid pitchers. If he were on the Rays he'd be a HoFer. Made Jeffery Springs look elite. but Bloom came from the org. so they likely aren't doing anything he doesn't know, i would guess.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Apr 11, 2023 19:52:29 GMT -5
How long of a leash are the Sox going to give Whitlock as a starter? I hope they didn't Bard him out of the league by trying to stretch him out into a starter. I don't know if he is a starter but you have got to give him some time. 2 maybe 3 more starts until he is totally built up. Need to give him a chance to fail. I'd rather have Whitlock pitching 6 innings over 6 days in high leverage situations than once every 5. Gives you a chance to win 2+ games when he pitches instead of 1 best case every 5. He was elite at that role too.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 11, 2023 19:52:50 GMT -5
Ignoring the fact that our starting SS and CF are injured, or...? The catchers aren't bad either; it's a really thin position leaguewide. The report on Story is that his shoulder is too messed up to play SS anyway. So, I am counting him as a 2B. Also, Duvall is not a CF. He barely played there during his career and hardly looked like Otis Nixon out there when he did. So, I think my point stands. The report on Story is that he was going to be the starting SS this year until he got injured. His elbow was messed up in 2021 too, and theoretically even more so since it was a fresh injury, and he still was an adequate defender at SS. He might not be elite there like he was earlier in his career, but he should still be able to handle SS.
Duvall was a gold glove caliber corner OF and has played ~600 innings of CF over the past two years, racking up 4 OAA. He's clearly a good enough defender to play there, and when Story is healthy he should also hit enough to mix in at LF and RF.
If you think starting Trevor Story and Adam Duvall are examples of the GM messing up at CF and SS, your standards are too high.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 11, 2023 19:55:25 GMT -5
It was so damn foolish. And so they weren't even close to keeping this asset so what did they convert this asset into? Why a pick after the 4th round. Fantastic.
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 11, 2023 19:55:53 GMT -5
At least Yoshi put it in the air
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