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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 13, 2023 14:36:03 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever seen Yu Chang get a hit. Yu Chang is this year’s Travis Shaw…
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Post by terriblehondo on Apr 13, 2023 14:37:13 GMT -5
This is starting to look like it is going to be a long season. The only path I saw for this team to be good was the pitching to be really good. I haven't seen anything yet that shouts the pitching is going to be really good.
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Post by jbuttah on Apr 13, 2023 14:37:14 GMT -5
Going forward as far as the current starters are considered, there aren't that many that I see having a future here: Casas, Story, Devers, Yoshida, Verdugo. Obviously Devers is a core piece and maybe/possibly Casas.
Mayer, Bleis, Rafaela, Yorke are all at least a year and probably longer away from making any impact at the major league level. And you still don't have a catcher within eyesight.
How can anyone expect the offense to be any better in 2024?
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Post by nomar on Apr 13, 2023 14:40:08 GMT -5
Wow I got out of a meeting to this lmao
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Post by semperfisox on Apr 13, 2023 14:40:22 GMT -5
Yikes. I’d be surprised if Bloom made it through the whole season
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 13, 2023 14:40:43 GMT -5
Going forward as far as the current starters are considered, there aren't that many that I see having a future here: Casas, Story, Devers, Yoshida, Verdugo. Obviously Devers is a core piece and maybe/possibly Casas. Mayer, Bleis, Rafaela, Yorke are all at least a year and probably longer away from making any impact at the major league level. And you still don't have a catcher within eyesight. How can anyone expect the offense to be any better in 2024?This was the crime of not getting under the luxury tax last year. They'll reset after this season and have no one to sign after this season.
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Post by jmei on Apr 13, 2023 14:43:28 GMT -5
It's a beautiful afternoon in the Boston area today. Great time to turn off the TV and go for a walk.
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 13, 2023 14:45:39 GMT -5
Yikes. I’d be surprised if Bloom made it through the whole season Its Blooms fault that the players are playing well below their own standards or the coaching? Pretty sure just BA and ERA every players is very close or at worst BA of career and every pitcher is at career high in ERA. That isn't on Bloom I'm sorry.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 13, 2023 14:46:50 GMT -5
Same. I'm trying to figure out the justification for what just happened. Tropicana Field is actually cursed
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Post by jbuttah on Apr 13, 2023 14:46:53 GMT -5
Yikes. I’d be surprised if Bloom made it through the whole season Unless he was guaranteed 6 years, because it's looking like 2025 will be the earliest this team will have a pulse.
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Post by semperfisox on Apr 13, 2023 14:48:44 GMT -5
Yikes. I’d be surprised if Bloom made it through the whole season Its Blooms fault that the players are playing well below their own standards or the coaching? Pretty sure just BA and ERA every players is very close or at worst BA of career and every pitcher is at career high in ERA. That isn't on Bloom I'm sorry. This lineup and pitcher if staff is a joke for what our payroll is. Yes that falls directly on Bloom.
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Post by jbuttah on Apr 13, 2023 14:53:10 GMT -5
Yikes. I’d be surprised if Bloom made it through the whole season Its Blooms fault that the players are playing well below their own standards or the coaching? Pretty sure just BA and ERA every players is very close or at worst BA of career and every pitcher is at career high in ERA. That isn't on Bloom I'm sorry. It's his fault that none of the players he traded for has panned out, except maybe Verdugo. It's his fault that he didn't get under the LT threshold last year, when it was obvious to anyone this was not a serious playoff contending team. There was a great article (can't remember by who) about how he's been terrible at managing the 40 man roster especially at the margins. I'm ok with gutting a team and hitting the reset button for sustained success, but right now I'm looking real hard and still can't see what the basis of the sustained success wil be.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 13, 2023 14:53:16 GMT -5
BABIP took a big hit today.
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Post by stanpapi on Apr 13, 2023 14:55:22 GMT -5
This team reminds me of the 2020 Covid Red Sox, especially the pitching. Maybe Zach Godley is available
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Post by greenmonster on Apr 13, 2023 14:55:22 GMT -5
8 Games Back
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 13, 2023 14:55:57 GMT -5
Going forward as far as the current starters are considered, there aren't that many that I see having a future here: Casas, Story, Devers, Yoshida, Verdugo. Obviously Devers is a core piece and maybe/possibly Casas. Mayer, Bleis, Rafaela, Yorke are all at least a year and probably longer away from making any impact at the major league level. And you still don't have a catcher within eyesight. How can anyone expect the offense to be any better in 2024? This is my biggest worry right now. I don't see where the reinforcements are coming from in the farm until maybe July of 2024 at the earliest? and that's if the guys pan out. Sure they may get lucky on an upper minor lotto ticket who can be a bench piece but that's not going to propel them into being a good offensive team. Even if they want to go out and spend, spend, spend to turn things around quickly take a look at the upcoming FA class and try and figure out who would help all that much. There's Ohtani but I'll eat my hat if A) they even make an offer in the stratosphere of what he's going to cost and B) why would he want to come to Boston right now with the state of the team? I tried to be optimistic about the team this year to the point they were a strong WC contender but I'm losing that optimism quickly. I will say it's probably too quick to rush to that type of judgement and that a lot of it is this series right now against the Rays who quite obviously couldn't have started the season any hotter and are a buzzsaw right now. Still with that being said, I'd say best case scenario is they can float around .500 until they get back Story and Duvall to help the offense and maybe make a run after that. Might be looking at a long 3 year stretch as Sox fans. I guess in all honesty my hope right now is that they don't make any rash decisions to trade away what seems to be an improving farm in the hopes to drag this flawed team into the hope that adding one or two players will somehow turn them around quickly in an effort for Bloom to save his job.
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Post by ixnayexxus on Apr 13, 2023 14:58:15 GMT -5
I'm clearly not breaking any new ground with this proclamation, but this is simply not a playoff caliber ball club.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 13, 2023 14:58:59 GMT -5
Well that series didn't go very well.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 13, 2023 14:59:23 GMT -5
This team reminds me of the 2020 Covid Red Sox, especially the pitching. Maybe Zach Godley is available Is Ryan Weber available though?
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Post by cba82 on Apr 13, 2023 15:00:59 GMT -5
I’m ready to overreact, and make changes for the sake of change.
Up: Hamilton, Duran Down: Dalbec DFAd: Chang Benched: Hernandez
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 13, 2023 15:02:37 GMT -5
Its Blooms fault that the players are playing well below their own standards or the coaching? Pretty sure just BA and ERA every players is very close or at worst BA of career and every pitcher is at career high in ERA. That isn't on Bloom I'm sorry. This lineup and pitcher if staff is a joke for what our payroll is. Yes that falls directly on Bloom. well his best 2 signings are on the DL. If we had Duvall and Story and with Paxton that's 30 million coming back this team looks totally different but that's also if Sale can regain form. I think our problem is coaching. How is EVERYONE slumping. These are players with proven track records playing way below their standards. That has nothing to do with the GM. Coaching SUCKS this year. Talent isnt GREAT but with good coaching were a hell of a lot better then this.
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Post by jbuttah on Apr 13, 2023 15:05:06 GMT -5
This lineup and pitcher if staff is a joke for what our payroll is. Yes that falls directly on Bloom. well his best 2 signings are on the DL. If we had Duvall and Story and with Paxton that's 30 million coming back this team looks totally different but that's also if Sale can regain form. I think our problem is coaching. How is EVERYONE slumping. These are players with proven track records playing way below their standards. That has nothing to do with the GM. Coaching SUCKS this year. Talent isnt GREAT but with good coaching were a hell of a lot better then this. All 3 came with huge injury concerns, and Paxton hasn't even thrown a pitch for the Sox yet.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 13, 2023 15:06:52 GMT -5
This lineup and pitcher if staff is a joke for what our payroll is. Yes that falls directly on Bloom. well his best 2 signings are on the DL. If we had Duvall and Story and with Paxton that's 30 million coming back this team looks totally different but that's also if Sale can regain form. I think our problem is coaching. How is EVERYONE slumping. These are players with proven track records playing way below their standards. That has nothing to do with the GM. Coaching SUCKS this year. Talent isnt GREAT but with good coaching were a hell of a lot better then this. They were all hot like 5 days ago. They're all "slumping" now because they faced probably the best pitching team in the majors for 4 games in a row, and they've been kinda killed on the BABIP to boot.
The Rays gave up 2 R/G before the Red Sox series. The Red Sox scored 3.8 R/G against them.
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Post by stanpapi on Apr 13, 2023 15:07:28 GMT -5
Ryan Weber has a 10.80 ERA with AAA Scranton-wilkes-Barre. He would certainly be an upgrade.
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Post by cdj on Apr 13, 2023 15:11:24 GMT -5
Delete the series thread and bury the game tape
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