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5/9-5/10 Red Sox @ Braves Series Thread
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Post by ematz1423 on May 10, 2023 11:09:18 GMT -5
I am a Bloom archnemesis, but I don’t think this is his failure. Pivetta and Sale were reasonable hopes for inning-eating. I don’t see trading for an ace. Who and for how much? The pitching could go either way this year. If Whitlock gets healthy, Bello settles in, Sale keeps improving, and Paxton surprises, it could make a huge turnaround. If it carries on or — God forbid — sees more injuries, it could really spiral out of control. Of course Bloom could have signed one of the top-of-the-market free agents, as some people wanted. Let's check in on how they're doing!
DeGrom ($185 million): on the IL Rodon ($162 million): on the IL
Verlander ($87 million): was on the IL; 5 IP so far Senga ($72 million): 3.38 ERA/5.16 FIP; 6 BB/9 Walker ($72 million): 5.97 ERA/5.77 FIP Taillon ($68 million): 6.41 ERA/3.68 FIP Bassitt ($63 million): 4.28 ERA/5.34 FIP Eflin ($40 million): 2.91 ERA/3.21 FIP. Anderson ($39 million): 5.40 ERA/6.07 FIP Eovaldi ($34 million): 3.22 ERA/2.18 FIP
It's pretty amazing, actually. Of the top 10 free agents, only #8 and #10 have been unambiguously good, and the Red Sox pursued both of them - and no others on this list. They might even have given the biggest offer to both of them. But they both ended up elsewhere.
I believe they had also offered Heaney north of $30M which is more than he got from Texas and looks like they dodged a bullet on that one, not to blow up your list but he'd be #11 on there I believe. Either way as we can see Bloom clearly wasn't playing at the deep end of the pool for starters which at this point in the season would appear to be the correct choice.
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Post by yuchangclan on May 10, 2023 11:12:49 GMT -5
Kinda annoying that the Sox were in on Murphy forever and then when he gets traded to someone else he becomes the best player in baseball Were they really “in on” Murphy, though? He definitely was a good fit(and I know the board was clamoring for him). But I never saw any potential deals and got the feeling that Bloom wasn’t willing to part with the prospect capital to make the deal anyway. I never got the sense that he was particularly close to being dealt to the Sox. The Braves just always seem to have an endless array of prospects from which to deal. I don’t think the Sox could match that(unless they were going to include a guy like Mayer).
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Post by scottysmalls on May 10, 2023 11:16:22 GMT -5
I don’t think this group can get deep Enough into games. At least not anytime soon Agreed, and that appears to be a major flaw in the group of starters Bloom has assembled. Not a single guy you can count on to give you 6+ innings per start. Based on the group we have I think the best we can do right now is: Starters: Sale, Bello, Houck, Paxton, Kluber Pen: Crawford, Rodriguez, Schreiber, Martin, Wink, Whitlock, Jansen I'd DFA Pivetta, Brasier and Blier, want no part of any of them. Whitlock should without question be moved to the pen and left there for good. His stuff plays up more and less innings should put less strain on his body/arm. I'd also argue his upside in the pen is much higher than Houck's based on what we've seen but their upside in the rotation is fairly equal. Ultimately Bloom will need to trade for an ace starter as that is a massive need. Oddly enough he alluded to being aware of this need in the offseason but then proceeded to add 37 yr old Corey Kluber. Hopefully he goes big at the deadline or sooner if possible. Out of 75 starters in baseball who have played enough to qualify 20 of them have averaged 6 or more IP per start. It would be great if we had one but it's not quite as simple as saying just go get one of those guys, every team wants them and there's less than one player capable per team in the league. Mostly they are really good players on competing teams or good cost controlled young players. Interestingly though both Eovaldi and Eduardo Rodriguez qualify. The latter was awful last year but this year looks like the Red Sox maybe should have pursued him. The former they did try to sign but he declined their offer, he's been good enough so far it's fair to wonder if they should have been more aggressive. Of the 20 qualifiers the only other one that was a FA recently who maybe the Red Sox could have gone after was Kevin Gausman. Rodriguez will be an interesting deadline trade candidate. He could opt out, but was also mysteriously MIA last year and if he has a bad second half would likely stay in the deal. I'd be nervous about the Red Sox going after him. Outside of him, the only other clear trade candidate currently fitting this bill might be Aaron Nola if the Phillies stay bad, but that's not a given.
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Post by incandenza on May 10, 2023 11:18:16 GMT -5
Of course Bloom could have signed one of the top-of-the-market free agents, as some people wanted. Let's check in on how they're doing!
DeGrom ($185 million): on the IL Rodon ($162 million): on the IL
Verlander ($87 million): was on the IL; 5 IP so far Senga ($72 million): 3.38 ERA/5.16 FIP; 6 BB/9 Walker ($72 million): 5.97 ERA/5.77 FIP Taillon ($68 million): 6.41 ERA/3.68 FIP Bassitt ($63 million): 4.28 ERA/5.34 FIP Eflin ($40 million): 2.91 ERA/3.21 FIP. Anderson ($39 million): 5.40 ERA/6.07 FIP Eovaldi ($34 million): 3.22 ERA/2.18 FIP
It's pretty amazing, actually. Of the top 10 free agents, only #8 and #10 have been unambiguously good, and the Red Sox pursued both of them - and no others on this list. They might even have given the biggest offer to both of them. But they both ended up elsewhere.
I believe they had also offered Heaney north of $30M which is more than he got from Texas and looks like they dodged a bullet on that one, not to blow up your list but he'd be #11 on there I believe. Either way as we can see Bloom clearly wasn't playing at the deep end of the pool for starters which at this point in the season would appear to be the correct choice. He'd be #16, but yes, that's true. And of course they actually did sign Kluber (#24), which is a move I liked at the time but it's not looking real great so far.
Looking down the whole list it's amazing how few have actually been good.
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on May 10, 2023 11:19:53 GMT -5
When you talk about which starter goes to the pen you have.
Houck - when he's bad he pitches 2 to 4 clean innings then implodes for 4 or so runs. He's also proven he can be an effective reliever.
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Pivetta - when he's bad he is bad right from the moment he hits the mound, sometimes he settles in. Has no history of bullpen success.
Wouldn't the guy who seems to come into the game throwing well and who has relief experience be a better choice? Houck simply doesn't have the pitches to get through a third time through the order.
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Post by ematz1423 on May 10, 2023 11:23:08 GMT -5
Kinda annoying that the Sox were in on Murphy forever and then when he gets traded to someone else he becomes the best player in baseball Were they really “in on” Murphy, though? He definitely was a good fit(and I know the board was clamoring for him). But I never saw any potential deals and got the feeling that Bloom wasn’t willing to part with the prospect capital to make the deal anyway. I never got the sense that he was particularly close to being dealt to the Sox. The Braves just always seem to have an endless array of prospects from which to deal. I don’t think the Sox could match that(unless they were going to include a guy like Mayer). I don't know that the Sox were ever really deep into talks on Murphy but really if you look at the package the Braves gave up it wasn't really that much if you ask me. Seems like they could have gotten him without giving up Mayer but the A's are a weird team that values players what appears at least to me somewhat drastically different than most. Seems to me like they tend to lean "quantity" over "quality", at least in the case of the Murphy deal it seems they could have and should have got more.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 10, 2023 11:49:06 GMT -5
Everyone thought the Braves paid a pretty fair price for Murphy at the time. Contreras was a (not especially deserving but still) all star with one year of service time and plus there was some legit prospects to go along with him. The weird thing was the Esteury Ruiz switcheroo.
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Post by ematz1423 on May 10, 2023 11:54:52 GMT -5
Everyone thought the Braves paid a pretty fair price for Murphy at the time. Contreras was a (not especially deserving but still) all star with one year of service time and plus there was some legit prospects to go along with him. The weird thing was the Esteury Ruiz switcheroo. That's a fair point, The Braves gave up a solid enough package for Murphy but as you point out the A's probably didn't even get back the best young player/prospect back in the deal since they flipped him to the Brewers. I'd still say the A's didn't get back enough but some of that is hindsight since Murphy has been outstanding and then immediately signed the ole Braves special discount contract extension.
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Post by briam on May 10, 2023 12:06:11 GMT -5
He just finished throwing a bad game and is hopped up on adrenaline. Maybe a little unnecessarily pissy at a fair question from Chris but whatever, really. By the way, as I tweeted, Cora's post game comment that Pivetta will start on Tuesday signals that Bello is getting sent down after his start today. I get it - it's the best way to maintain SP depth/Paxton insurance. This isn’t a one time post game emotions thing… Cotillo mentioned in an article last night that Pivetta confronted somebody for predicting he would be in the bullpen before the season. Starting pitchers are unique guys, but he has the ego of a much better arm. “Pivetta “confronted a reporter who had appeared on the MLB Network and predicted -- before injuries hit the rotation -- that he, Pivetta, could be the odd man out and land in a relief role.””
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Post by briam on May 10, 2023 12:07:26 GMT -5
I am a Bloom archnemesis, but I don’t think this is his failure. Pivetta and Sale were reasonable hopes for inning-eating. I don’t see trading for an ace. Who and for how much? The pitching could go either way this year. If Whitlock gets healthy, Bello settles in, Sale keeps improving, and Paxton surprises, it could make a huge turnaround. If it carries on or — God forbid — sees more injuries, it could really spiral out of control. Of course Bloom could have signed one of the top-of-the-market free agents, as some people wanted. Let's check in on how they're doing!
DeGrom ($185 million): on the IL Rodon ($162 million): on the IL
Verlander ($87 million): was on the IL; 5 IP so far Senga ($72 million): 3.38 ERA/5.16 FIP; 6 BB/9 Walker ($72 million): 5.97 ERA/5.77 FIP Taillon ($68 million): 6.41 ERA/3.68 FIP Bassitt ($63 million): 4.28 ERA/5.34 FIP Eflin ($40 million): 2.91 ERA/3.21 FIP. Anderson ($39 million): 5.40 ERA/6.07 FIP Eovaldi ($34 million): 3.22 ERA/2.18 FIP
It's pretty amazing, actually. Of the top 10 free agents, only #8 and #10 have been unambiguously good, and the Red Sox pursued both of them - and no others on this list. They might even have given the biggest offer to both of them. But they both ended up elsewhere.
Highlights the importance of developing young controllable pitching before they get old and you have to pay a premium for a dice roll.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on May 10, 2023 12:09:32 GMT -5
Of course Bloom could have signed one of the top-of-the-market free agents, as some people wanted. Let's check in on how they're doing!
DeGrom ($185 million): on the IL Rodon ($162 million): on the IL
Verlander ($87 million): was on the IL; 5 IP so far Senga ($72 million): 3.38 ERA/5.16 FIP; 6 BB/9 Walker ($72 million): 5.97 ERA/5.77 FIP Taillon ($68 million): 6.41 ERA/3.68 FIP Bassitt ($63 million): 4.28 ERA/5.34 FIP Eflin ($40 million): 2.91 ERA/3.21 FIP. Anderson ($39 million): 5.40 ERA/6.07 FIP Eovaldi ($34 million): 3.22 ERA/2.18 FIP
It's pretty amazing, actually. Of the top 10 free agents, only #8 and #10 have been unambiguously good, and the Red Sox pursued both of them - and no others on this list. They might even have given the biggest offer to both of them. But they both ended up elsewhere.
Highlights the importance of developing young controllable pitching before they get old and you have to pay a premium for a dice roll. Eflin is doing the best on that list, and ironically, Bloom was roasted when it came out that he was pursuing him
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Post by yuchangclan on May 10, 2023 12:11:55 GMT -5
Agreed, and that appears to be a major flaw in the group of starters Bloom has assembled. Not a single guy you can count on to give you 6+ innings per start. Based on the group we have I think the best we can do right now is: Starters: Sale, Bello, Houck, Paxton, Kluber Pen: Crawford, Rodriguez, Schreiber, Martin, Wink, Whitlock, Jansen I'd DFA Pivetta, Brasier and Blier, want no part of any of them. Whitlock should without question be moved to the pen and left there for good. His stuff plays up more and less innings should put less strain on his body/arm. I'd also argue his upside in the pen is much higher than Houck's based on what we've seen but their upside in the rotation is fairly equal. Ultimately Bloom will need to trade for an ace starter as that is a massive need. Oddly enough he alluded to being aware of this need in the offseason but then proceeded to add 37 yr old Corey Kluber. Hopefully he goes big at the deadline or sooner if possible. Out of 75 starters in baseball who have played enough to qualify 20 of them have averaged 6 or more IP per start. It would be great if we had one but it's not quite as simple as saying just go get one of those guys, every team wants them and there's less than one player capable per team in the league. Mostly they are really good players on competing teams or good cost controlled young players. Interestingly though both Eovaldi and Eduardo Rodriguez qualify. The latter was awful last year but this year looks like the Red Sox maybe should have pursued him. The former they did try to sign but he declined their offer, he's been good enough so far it's fair to wonder if they should have been more aggressive. Of the 20 qualifiers the only other one that was a FA recently who maybe the Red Sox could have gone after was Kevin Gausman. Rodriguez will be an interesting deadline trade candidate. He could opt out, but was also mysteriously MIA last year and if he has a bad second half would likely stay in the deal. I'd be nervous about the Red Sox going after him. Outside of him, the only other clear trade candidate currently fitting this bill might be Aaron Nola if the Phillies stay bad, but that's not a given. Giolito could be a good target. And they are already talking about the White Sox moving him at the deadline. Jordan Montgomery would also be interesting if the Cardinals don’t snap out of their funk by July. As for Erod, what a strange case he is. But the numbers don’t lie; he’s been one of the best in MLB this year. As of now, he is an easy call to opt out.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 10, 2023 12:13:00 GMT -5
Sorry, but the idea that Pivetta should be DFA'd is a bit shortsighted. If you're going to get rid of him, you *must* get something in return through a trade.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on May 10, 2023 12:24:12 GMT -5
Of course Bloom could have signed one of the top-of-the-market free agents, as some people wanted. Let's check in on how they're doing!
DeGrom ($185 million): on the IL Rodon ($162 million): on the IL
Verlander ($87 million): was on the IL; 5 IP so far Senga ($72 million): 3.38 ERA/5.16 FIP; 6 BB/9 Walker ($72 million): 5.97 ERA/5.77 FIP Taillon ($68 million): 6.41 ERA/3.68 FIP Bassitt ($63 million): 4.28 ERA/5.34 FIP Eflin ($40 million): 2.91 ERA/3.21 FIP. Anderson ($39 million): 5.40 ERA/6.07 FIP Eovaldi ($34 million): 3.22 ERA/2.18 FIP
It's pretty amazing, actually. Of the top 10 free agents, only #8 and #10 have been unambiguously good, and the Red Sox pursued both of them - and no others on this list. They might even have given the biggest offer to both of them. But they both ended up elsewhere.
Highlights the importance of developing young controllable pitching before they get old and you have to pay a premium for a dice roll. Could not agree more. Which is why in my opinion, Houk, Bello and Whitlock should all be in the rotation going forward. If they have things to work through, let them work through it. None will become better starters by working out of the pen.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 10, 2023 12:26:58 GMT -5
Highlights the importance of developing young controllable pitching before they get old and you have to pay a premium for a dice roll. Could not agree more. Which is why in my opinion, Houk, Bello and Whitlock should all be in the rotation going forward. If they have things to work through, let them work through it. None will become better starters by working out of the pen. Precisely. They must, must, must see if Houck, Bello and Whitlock are sustainable rotation options this season in order to determine their future rotation decisions in the next couple of seasons.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on May 10, 2023 12:38:46 GMT -5
Sorry, but the idea that Pivetta should be DFA'd is a bit shortsighted. If you're going to get rid of him, you *must* get something in return through a trade. Especially considering that Paxton is a huge question mark and Kluber is more of a physical break down risk than Pivetta.
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Post by Guidas on May 10, 2023 12:39:23 GMT -5
Of course Bloom could have signed one of the top-of-the-market free agents, as some people wanted. Let's check in on how they're doing! DeGrom ($185 million): on the IL Rodon ($162 million): on the IL
Verlander ($87 million): was on the IL; 5 IP so far Senga ($72 million): 3.38 ERA/5.16 FIP; 6 BB/9 Walker ($72 million): 5.97 ERA/5.77 FIP Taillon ($68 million): 6.41 ERA/3.68 FIP Bassitt ($63 million): 4.28 ERA/5.34 FIP Eflin ($40 million): 2.91 ERA/3.21 FIP. Anderson ($39 million): 5.40 ERA/6.07 FIP Eovaldi ($34 million): 3.22 ERA/2.18 FIP It's pretty amazing, actually. Of the top 10 free agents, only #8 and #10 have been unambiguously good, and the Red Sox pursued both of them - and no others on this list. They might even have given the biggest offer to both of them. But they both ended up elsewhere.
Highlights the importance of developing young controllable pitching before they get old and you have to pay a premium for a dice roll. Well, yeah. We've all been saying this since about 2008.
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Post by scottysmalls on May 10, 2023 12:42:05 GMT -5
Out of 75 starters in baseball who have played enough to qualify 20 of them have averaged 6 or more IP per start. It would be great if we had one but it's not quite as simple as saying just go get one of those guys, every team wants them and there's less than one player capable per team in the league. Mostly they are really good players on competing teams or good cost controlled young players. Interestingly though both Eovaldi and Eduardo Rodriguez qualify. The latter was awful last year but this year looks like the Red Sox maybe should have pursued him. The former they did try to sign but he declined their offer, he's been good enough so far it's fair to wonder if they should have been more aggressive. Of the 20 qualifiers the only other one that was a FA recently who maybe the Red Sox could have gone after was Kevin Gausman. Rodriguez will be an interesting deadline trade candidate. He could opt out, but was also mysteriously MIA last year and if he has a bad second half would likely stay in the deal. I'd be nervous about the Red Sox going after him. Outside of him, the only other clear trade candidate currently fitting this bill might be Aaron Nola if the Phillies stay bad, but that's not a given. Giolito could be a good target. And they are already talking about the White Sox moving him at the deadline. Jordan Montgomery would also be interesting if the Cardinals don’t snap out of their funk by July. As for Erod, what a strange case he is. But the numbers don’t lie; he’s been one of the best in MLB this year. As of now, he is an easy call to opt out. Agreed both good targets and both have pitched really well, though both are short of the arbitrary 6 IP / start cutoff (though very close).
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 10, 2023 12:45:28 GMT -5
Of course Bloom could have signed one of the top-of-the-market free agents, as some people wanted. Let's check in on how they're doing!
DeGrom ($185 million): on the IL Rodon ($162 million): on the IL
Verlander ($87 million): was on the IL; 5 IP so far Senga ($72 million): 3.38 ERA/5.16 FIP; 6 BB/9 Walker ($72 million): 5.97 ERA/5.77 FIP Taillon ($68 million): 6.41 ERA/3.68 FIP Bassitt ($63 million): 4.28 ERA/5.34 FIP Eflin ($40 million): 2.91 ERA/3.21 FIP. Anderson ($39 million): 5.40 ERA/6.07 FIP Eovaldi ($34 million): 3.22 ERA/2.18 FIP
It's pretty amazing, actually. Of the top 10 free agents, only #8 and #10 have been unambiguously good, and the Red Sox pursued both of them - and no others on this list. They might even have given the biggest offer to both of them. But they both ended up elsewhere.
I think you have to take those numbers with a grain of salt for 2 major reasons. 1). It's too small a sample size. 2). The new rules have clearly affected pitching in a bad way. Not to mention there isn't much association on their performance thus with this club. Could be better, could be worse. There is a chance that their starts could have lined up better with our poor performances. If the Sox continue to hit and the starting pitching remains very questionable, I am pretty certain Bloom is going to make a substantial bid for a trade. I could see him parting with Yorke (or any highly rated farm prospect) or (or +) even some of our young pitching to get a guy that is TOR that has some years left. I don't know enough of other players to say who, but the timing is right (after running the club for 4 years or so) to make such a move. With some of our younger hitters progressing and making an impact, he shouldn't want to let this issue linger.
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Post by Guidas on May 10, 2023 12:45:29 GMT -5
I don’t think this group can get deep Enough into games. At least not anytime soon Agreed, and that appears to be a major flaw in the group of starters Bloom has assembled. Not a single guy you can count on to give you 6+ innings per start. Based on the group we have I think the best we can do right now is: Starters: Sale, Bello, Houck, Paxton, Kluber Pen: Crawford, Rodriguez, Schreiber, Martin, Wink, Whitlock, Jansen I'd DFA Pivetta, Brasier and Blier, want no part of any of them. Whitlock should without question be moved to the pen and left there for good. His stuff plays up more and less innings should put less strain on his body/arm. I'd also argue his upside in the pen is much higher than Houck's based on what we've seen but their upside in the rotation is fairly equal. Ultimately Bloom will need to trade for an ace starter as that is a massive need. Oddly enough he alluded to being aware of this need in the offseason but then proceeded to add 37 yr old Corey Kluber. Hopefully he goes big at the deadline or sooner if possible. Whoa - he's a #5 starter and a proven 200 innings guy. That's not an asset you DFA. You trade him if you don't want him, but, really, come July or August, every team, including this one, will need a "Pivetta" type. Paxon could blow out a lat combing his hair given his history and hasn't established that he can even get through as few starts yet. More suspect is Houck who still have problems with lefties (.284 AVE .353 OBA .500 SLG .365wOBA) and 2nd and 3rd time through the order. He looks like a possible opener/multi-inning reliever, but he's probably a pen arm long term.
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Post by incandenza on May 10, 2023 12:46:56 GMT -5
Highlights the importance of developing young controllable pitching before they get old and you have to pay a premium for a dice roll. Eflin is doing the best on that list, and ironically, Bloom was roasted when it came out that he was pursuing him The way this season is playing out so far has boosted my confidence in the team's talent evaluation. Not just because of the guys they did sign (Yoshida, Jansen, Duvall), but because of the guys they went after but came up short (Eflin, Eovaldi) and the guys they could have gone after but didn't (all those pitchers, Segura, Andrus). They certainly made better decisions than I would have in several cases.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 10, 2023 12:49:28 GMT -5
Eflin is doing the best on that list, and ironically, Bloom was roasted when it came out that he was pursuing him The way this season is playing out so far has boosted my confidence in the team's talent evaluation. Not just because of the guys they did sign (Yoshida, Jansen, Duvall), but because of the guys they went after but came up short (Eflin, Eovaldi) and the guys they could have gone after but didn't (all those pitchers, Segura, Andrus). They certainly made better decisions than I would have in several cases.
Jose Abreu and Andrew Benintendi are two guys they made offers to that are stinking up the joint this year
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 10, 2023 12:50:45 GMT -5
Of course Bloom could have signed one of the top-of-the-market free agents, as some people wanted. Let's check in on how they're doing!
DeGrom ($185 million): on the IL Rodon ($162 million): on the IL
Verlander ($87 million): was on the IL; 5 IP so far Senga ($72 million): 3.38 ERA/5.16 FIP; 6 BB/9 Walker ($72 million): 5.97 ERA/5.77 FIP Taillon ($68 million): 6.41 ERA/3.68 FIP Bassitt ($63 million): 4.28 ERA/5.34 FIP Eflin ($40 million): 2.91 ERA/3.21 FIP. Anderson ($39 million): 5.40 ERA/6.07 FIP Eovaldi ($34 million): 3.22 ERA/2.18 FIP
It's pretty amazing, actually. Of the top 10 free agents, only #8 and #10 have been unambiguously good, and the Red Sox pursued both of them - and no others on this list. They might even have given the biggest offer to both of them. But they both ended up elsewhere.
I think you have to take those numbers with a grain of salt for 2 major reasons. 1). It's too small a sample size. 2). The new rules have clearly affected pitching in a bad way. Not to mention there isn't much association on their performance thus with this club. Could be better, could be worse. There is a chance that their starts could have lined up better with our poor performances. If the Sox continue to hit and the starting pitching remains very questionable, I am pretty certain Bloom is going to make a substantial bid for a trade. I could see him parting with Yorke (or any highly rated farm prospect) or (or +) even some of our young pitching to get a guy that is TOR that has some years left. I don't know enough of other players to say who, but the timing is right (after running the club for 4 years or so) to make such a move. With some of our younger hitters progressing and making an impact, he shouldn't want to let this issue linger. I mean the question here is who is this young, controllable pitcher that would be available through a trade? It seems like virtually anyone with this type of pitcher would have to get a very significant prospect haul in order to part ways w/ them these days.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 10, 2023 12:51:51 GMT -5
The way this season is playing out so far has boosted my confidence in the team's talent evaluation. Not just because of the guys they did sign (Yoshida, Jansen, Duvall), but because of the guys they went after but came up short (Eflin, Eovaldi) and the guys they could have gone after but didn't (all those pitchers, Segura, Andrus). They certainly made better decisions than I would have in several cases.
Jose Abreu and Andrew Benintendi are two guys they made offers to that are stinking up the joint this year Let's not forget how bad Correa is thus far as well.
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Post by cdj on May 10, 2023 12:54:51 GMT -5
Jose Abreu and Andrew Benintendi are two guys they made offers to that are stinking up the joint this year Let's not forget how bad Correa is thus far as well. Been getting booed at home lately
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