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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 9, 2023 11:33:49 GMT -5
Except that against a lefty he might be worse than the three outfielders they are playing and he has more value off the bench than any of them He needs looks against lefties. Sure but there is still a reason to sit him: it might be their best chance to win the game today.
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Post by yuchangclan on Jul 9, 2023 11:38:40 GMT -5
If Cora had been managing the Sox in 2003, David Ortiz would never have broken out. He would have been too busy “trying to get Jeremy Giambi going”.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 9, 2023 11:40:39 GMT -5
Cora doing his darndest to get some losses on the board THEY HAVE A WEEK OFF YOU DOLT PLAY YOUR BEST PLAYERS. I expect that Sox FO has significant influence on Cora's starting lineups. I don't KNOW that, of course. But it seems likely.
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 9, 2023 11:49:09 GMT -5
Okay, I am going to put the best possible spin on Cora's decisions here: -Kiké vs. lefties: 81 wRC+. Verdugo vs. lefties: 83 wRC+. Basically the same, even with Kiké having an awful year, and arguably the superior CF defense makes the difference. (Plus, more subjectively, Verdugo has looked kind of tired to me lately and maybe he could use an extra long break.)
-Duran is a huge weapon off the bench as either a pinch hitter or pinch runner so why not wait for a high leverage situation against a righty. -I certainly have no issue with starting Refsnyder over Casas against a lefty, and again Casas can come off the bench if they need a guy to get on base in high leverage.
Didn't we see that earlier this week? The opposing manager countered and then Cora pinch-hit for the pinch-hitter which resulted in Duran out of the game without ever stepping out of the on-deck circle.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 9, 2023 11:56:12 GMT -5
just plain dumb not to start Duran, any argument against is just being contrarian for contrarian's sake. He is the most exciting player and DOB gave the records when he plays or not. I would be kind of pissed, also, if i was going to my only game of the year and he isn't playing. He dominated yesterday, no reason to not start him today.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 9, 2023 12:01:02 GMT -5
Okay, I am going to put the best possible spin on Cora's decisions here: -Kiké vs. lefties: 81 wRC+. Verdugo vs. lefties: 83 wRC+. Basically the same, even with Kiké having an awful year, and arguably the superior CF defense makes the difference. (Plus, more subjectively, Verdugo has looked kind of tired to me lately and maybe he could use an extra long break.)
-Duran is a huge weapon off the bench as either a pinch hitter or pinch runner so why not wait for a high leverage situation against a righty. -I certainly have no issue with starting Refsnyder over Casas against a lefty, and again Casas can come off the bench if they need a guy to get on base in high leverage.
Didn't we see that earlier this week? The opposing manager countered and then Cora pinch-hit for the pinch-hitter which resulted in Duran out of the game without ever stepping out of the on-deck circle. And then Refsnyder came in and got an RBI hit! The strategy worked! Duran played a role in that win by forcing the other manager's hand.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 9, 2023 12:15:41 GMT -5
If Cora had been managing the Sox in 2003, David Ortiz would never have broken out. He would have been too busy “trying to get Jeremy Giambi going”. I know you're being facetious but in 2003 that wasn't the option for long. When the 2003 season started Ortiz was the 11th man of a 9 man lineup. My memory could be slightly off but Giambi got injured at some point in either May or June 2003, but what really opened up a spot for Ortiz was the Shea Hillenbrand trade to Arizona for Kim. I think up to that point Ortiz was only playing when Pedro started per Pedro's request. Then Hillenbrand was dealt and I think by then Giambi soon got injured and then Ortiz played and struggled along until around July 4th when he had his coming out party with two 2 homer games back to back in the Bronx and the rest was history.
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Post by nomar on Jul 9, 2023 12:40:04 GMT -5
Great defense
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 9, 2023 12:40:04 GMT -5
Didn't we see that earlier this week? The opposing manager countered and then Cora pinch-hit for the pinch-hitter which resulted in Duran out of the game without ever stepping out of the on-deck circle. And then Refsnyder came in and got an RBI hit! The strategy worked! Duran played a role in that win by forcing the other manager's hand. Any lefty could have forced that switch, though, and one AB for Refsnyder is not more valuable than 4-5 ABs for Duran instead of Kiké.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 9, 2023 12:40:32 GMT -5
Hope Wong is getting a lot out of the extra day of rest.
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 9, 2023 12:40:38 GMT -5
Lmao Alfaro, it's been two batters
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 9, 2023 12:40:43 GMT -5
Straight up gift run
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 9, 2023 12:40:46 GMT -5
Not playing to win today?
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Post by cba82 on Jul 9, 2023 12:41:09 GMT -5
Missing Caleb Hamilton…
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Post by station13 on Jul 9, 2023 12:41:33 GMT -5
Wasted no time
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 9, 2023 12:41:37 GMT -5
Piece of crap lineup today...
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 9, 2023 12:42:54 GMT -5
Alfaro making me look bad for defending him
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 9, 2023 12:44:09 GMT -5
Little league first inning
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 9, 2023 12:44:25 GMT -5
Today we miss Eck. He'd have a blast with Alfaro's locks ..er, lettuce.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 9, 2023 12:44:31 GMT -5
It would make since if Duran needed a day off, it he just had one? Is he sick? Or is Cora just being Cora?
Maybe Bloom can pull his inner Billy Beane and trade Kiké.
âLetâs see you sit Duran nowâ
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Post by terriblehondo on Jul 9, 2023 12:44:40 GMT -5
Alfaro making me look bad for defending him There really isn't a defense for him or by him. Hence his being shown the door by multiple teams.
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 9, 2023 12:46:46 GMT -5
It would make since if Duran needed a day off, it he just had one? Is he sick? Or is Cora just being Cora? Maybe Bloom can pull his inner Billy Beane and trade Kiké. âLetâs see you sit Duran nowâ Duran sure gets sick a lot...
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 9, 2023 12:47:44 GMT -5
Piece of crap lineup today... Why u say?
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Post by incandenza on Jul 9, 2023 12:47:51 GMT -5
Dave O'Brien: "Sears has a 4.09 ERA but he's actually pitched a lot better than that."
Sears xERA/FIP/xFIP: 4.60/4.90/4.83
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 9, 2023 12:48:25 GMT -5
Refsynder is such a good player
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