Patriots 2023 Season Thread

On what passes for a pretty much perfect weather day for Nov. they get out to a mediocre start but have a lead at the half and should have won going away.
They had no turnovers and Stevenson has his longest TD run and still they couldn't handle the DC club (who had just dealt personnel) they turned over. Pats made own mistakes.

They aren't good enough to get away with that. Mac throws a nice deep ball for a change he hits receiver in the hands and it's dropped.

I haven't seen Bill yet. He must looked shell shocked. No more wins for his record he's got to start thinking tank. If he doesn't they will prob' still win 2-3 more.

Lol whoops. Also, factor in the deflection. Yeah, maybe not.

There's some weird culture thing with Bill's assistants it feels like.

Fast running into the Number 1 pick next year. The last time that happened they brought in Parcells and he drafted Bledsoe. So, I'm paying attention to college QB's because it's clear that Mac is not the one to lead them forward. Okay for a backup perhaps, but not a No. 1 type. He waits too long and his arm strength isn't what a good QB has. He seems to have no zip on his throws. That give the defense time to react.

So, I'm hoping they continue to lose because winning helps nothing anymore. Go low and get the QB you need. I still have faith in Bill, but he needs some good players to coach. I'm sure he's frustrated at what he sees from his players. Coaching is one thing, getting them to do it right is another.

I only see one winnable game considering the level of play of the Patriots and that’s against the Giants.

The thing is, once a season starts going south, some players and teams just pack it in. They stop putting in as much effort both on the practice field and in games. Will we see that here? They’re talented enough (even with the recent injuries) to win some of these remaining games, but only if they’re giving full effort.

Never said throw it away. We've seen that route so many times by guys like Welker and Edelman. Throw is made as they make the break, hits receiver perfectly in body while in stride allowing him to turn up field to gain yac yards. Mac Jones was late with ball making it much harder when it should have been, instead crazy easy. I can't believe anyone would argue otherwise. You can't make that simple timing throw, which is as easy as it gets and we wonder why Juju can't get yac yards.

Here's the thing going forward you won't get worse D then he just faced. No Bourne messed him up. While the D is still good, without Judon it isn't the same. Uche made one play that I remember all game, he's just not the same guy he was last year. Other teams will win more games also. Cards should be getting Murray back. Maybe you don't get first pick, darn good shot at top 5. I struggle to see a path to outside top 10 after what we just watched. Injuries are our friends in the chase for a top pick . Losing Gonzalez, Marcus Jones and Judon on D, then Bourne on offense changes this team.

I have to point out how bad Thornton runs route, his sideline out route last game was maybe the worst I've every seen. Why labeled him a developmental WR prospect and a 4/5th round grade even though he has a crazy side to speed ratio. He got outplayed in training camp and preseason by everyone including Nixon. Now he's some how outplaying Boutte?

Yeah Boutte didn't get his feet down on two catches in his first game when he wasn't even expected to play. He did get wide open by NFL standards twice.

Another run fact, Mac Jones just had the highest percentage of passes thrown into tight targets in his career outside that Windy Bills game where he basically didn't throw passes. Why? Because he's throwing the ball late making everything harder on the WR and himself. Tom Brady was the best QB ever because of timing throws, when done right you can't stop them. When done late, it's a disaster as we just watched.

You said you agreed with the announcer that’s what he said, throw it away. If you want to argue Mac wasn’t perfect, go ahead. But to argue he forced it or that it was his fault and not the guy who’s job it is to catch it is silly.

A franchise QB who will still be less than he could be bc of a void of talent around him (my tongue is only partially in my cheek)

Start Mac next year and let new QB marinate on bench. Buy another year of building up the offense before installing him

How I feel about Mac and JuJu regarding. Can't get images to work. Basically, they're both terrible.

It's possible that Mac made the pass harder than it should have been and JuJu didn't make a play he should have. JuJu isn't some rookie WR. He's being paid a good amount to make tough catches. It hit his hands, but it also didn't need to be that way.