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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 11, 2023 17:02:50 GMT -5
Your answer may be that the Front Office may be trying to increase Valdez and Abreu’s value for an off season trade…. They know what they have in Rafaela and do not need to increase his value as they have no intention of trading him…. Bloom & Co. does try to maximize value for the assets they have which means getting max value in trades. How do they know what they have in Rafaela if he doesn’t get a chance to show it? Meanwhile, he just made the best play I’ve seen from the Sox in the outfield all season. At a minimum, they could use his defense out there. Makes me wonder if he's really in their plans for next season at least to start the season. I wouldn't be betting on him to be the opening day CF if I were a betting man. |
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Post by yuchangclan on Sept 11, 2023 17:07:51 GMT -5
This has to be one of the thinnest Yankees lineups I’ve seen in a loooong time. No excuses:
LeMahieu (R) 1B
Judge (R) RF
Torres (R) 2B
Stanton (R) DH
Wells (L) C
Volpe (R) SS
Bauers (L) LF
Cabrera (S) 3B
Florial (L) CF
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Post by cdj on Sept 11, 2023 17:13:35 GMT -5
This has to be one of the thinnest Yankees lineups I’ve seen in a loooong time. No excuses: LeMahieu (R) 1B Judge (R) RF Torres (R) 2B Stanton (R) DH Wells (L) C Volpe (R) SS Bauers (L) LF Cabrera (S) 3B Florial (L) CF Flotsam Judge RF Jetsam Crap Poppycock Nonsense Malarkey Trash Garbage |
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Post by cheers on Sept 11, 2023 17:45:47 GMT -5
delayed. drat.
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Post by cdj on Sept 11, 2023 17:46:49 GMT -5
Don’t think this one’s getting in unless they’re willing to start at 1045
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 11, 2023 17:47:19 GMT -5
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Sept 11, 2023 17:49:15 GMT -5
They aren't getting this one in
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Post by yuchangclan on Sept 11, 2023 18:08:49 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Sept 11, 2023 18:11:00 GMT -5
My theory as to why they aren't starting Rafaela in CF in every game is that they aren't actually designing the lineup card to be maximally entertaining for prospect-oriented fans. "Starting centerfielder" is just not his role on the team right now.
And to be honest I'm a little more interested in seeing how Abreu continues to handle and adjust to MLB pitching than I am to see which sich of a 40% K rate Rafaela ends the season on. Excited about Rafaela but I don't think it's his time yet.
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Post by terriblehondo on Sept 11, 2023 18:14:39 GMT -5
How do they know what they have in Rafaela if he doesn’t get a chance to show it? Meanwhile, he just made the best play I’ve seen from the Sox in the outfield all season. At a minimum, they could use his defense out there. Makes me wonder if he's really in their plans for next season at least to start the season. I wouldn't be betting on him to be the opening day CF if I were a betting man. Why would he be? The Sox are back to being the good hit no defense teams of Red Sox past that always weren't good enough. But wait until next year we will load up on more good hit bad field types. Just maybe we will get enough hitting to overcome the poor fielding and bad pitching. |
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Post by stevedillard on Sept 11, 2023 18:15:00 GMT -5
I will wait until we hear something from one of the national guys... And unless its theo coming back (which will never happen) I doubt he gets fired I think we need Jarred to define "poking around." I'll add that if somehow they slip down to 5th in the AL East (i.e. "another last place finish"), all bets are off for the front office and coaching staff. I'm not in market, so don't listen to Felger, but last Wed had to pick up wife in Boston, so listed to a bit of Maseratti's baseball show. He had the Carrabis tease from the evening before. 985thesportshub.com/episodes/jared-carrabis-of-draftkings-future-of-chaim-bloom-with-the-red-sox-red-sox-vs-rays-9-06/at 6 minute mark. Says two weeks ago he was positive on Bloom's trade deadline move, says system now 5th best farm and should save job. THEN - says last week he asked someone close at Fenway about how November would play out, and guy told him he thought Chaim would not be there. Unsolicited. Asked another guy, and got same answer. From podcast, sounds like he asked a few more people, and got similar response. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 11, 2023 18:26:44 GMT -5
How do they know what they have in Rafaela if he doesn’t get a chance to show it? Meanwhile, he just made the best play I’ve seen from the Sox in the outfield all season. At a minimum, they could use his defense out there. Makes me wonder if he's really in their plans for next season at least to start the season. I wouldn't be betting on him to be the opening day CF if I were a betting man. Or alternatively, they want to make it easier to send him down when Reyes comes back to preserve his rookie status for next year. If he does too well, that would be difficult to justify. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 11, 2023 18:37:35 GMT -5
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Post by sarasoxer on Sept 11, 2023 18:51:07 GMT -5
This has to be one of the thinnest Yankees lineups I’ve seen in a loooong time. No excuses: LeMahieu (R) 1B Judge (R) RF Torres (R) 2B Stanton (R) DH Wells (L) C Volpe (R) SS Bauers (L) LF Cabrera (S) 3B Florial (L) CF Flotsam Judge RF Jetsam Crap Poppycock Nonsense Malarkey Trash Garbage Boy, I hope they don't beat us....What would that say about our team? |
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Post by terriblehondo on Sept 11, 2023 18:56:11 GMT -5
Yeah the MFY are horrible and they are only 2 back in the loss column. Kind of puts the Sox in the same boat.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 11, 2023 19:17:49 GMT -5
What do you do if you're Brian Cashman this offseason? They need a couple of bats. But also their rotation next season, as it stands, is:
Cole
Rodon Cortes German Schmidt
After Cole, that... gets pretty uncomfortable. Do you go after another top-tier starter because you're the Yankees and YOLO? But then you've got yet another big contract for the 2026-28 or so years. Do you patch it up with a one-year deal or two?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 11, 2023 19:22:33 GMT -5
Rained out... playing 2 tomorrow?
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 11, 2023 19:25:02 GMT -5
What do you do if you're Brian Cashman this offseason? They need a couple of bats. But also their rotation next season, as it stands, is:
Cole
Rodon Cortes German Schmidt
After Cole, that... gets pretty uncomfortable. Do you go after another top-tier starter because you're the Yankees and YOLO? But then you've got yet another big contract for the 2026-28 or so years. Do you patch it up with a one-year deal or two?
It looks like they are transitioning Michael King into a starter as well, and tbf he's been pretty good there so far if not working deep into games yet. |
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Post by manfred on Sept 11, 2023 19:37:01 GMT -5
What do you do if you're Brian Cashman this offseason? They need a couple of bats. But also their rotation next season, as it stands, is:
Cole
Rodon Cortes German Schmidt
After Cole, that... gets pretty uncomfortable. Do you go after another top-tier starter because you're the Yankees and YOLO? But then you've got yet another big contract for the 2026-28 or so years. Do you patch it up with a one-year deal or two?
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Post by Guidas on Sept 11, 2023 20:09:36 GMT -5
This can't be playing well with ownership, especially since many teams sell hundreds if not thousands of tickets every game directly on the secondary market as a revenue source. At the very least it shows market dilution of your product value.
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Post by terriblehondo on Sept 11, 2023 20:16:38 GMT -5
Yeah the MFY are horrible and they are only 2 back in the loss column. Kind of puts the Sox in the same boat. ….ya the Red Sox have a bunch of Stanton type contract too….right? So now there is a different category for sucking. If we don't have a Stanton type contract do the Sox suck less? Not in my book but I come from a time before participation trophys were presented. Only one team from each league went to the series but the bar keeps lowering so set your sights lower. I think they are both mediocre by todays standards. By the standards I started watching baseball with they both suck. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Sept 11, 2023 20:51:08 GMT -5
My theory as to why they aren't starting Rafaela in CF in every game is that they aren't actually designing the lineup card to be maximally entertaining for prospect-oriented fans. "Starting centerfielder" is just not his role on the team right now. And to be honest I'm a little more interested in seeing how Abreu continues to handle and adjust to MLB pitching than I am to see which sich of a 40% K rate Rafaela ends the season on. Excited about Rafaela but I don't think it's his time yet. My conspiracy theory is that he's trade bait and they're trying to keep his OPS as high as possible for the optics. With all due respect, if there is a GM that cares about his OPS in this small a sample at all and takes it into consideration in trade discussions, they should be fired. |
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 11, 2023 21:09:33 GMT -5
This can't be playing well with ownership, especially since many teams sell hundreds if not thousands of tickets every game directly on the secondary market as a revenue source. At the very least it shows market dilution of your product value. I mean as the article states. Weather this week is most likely playing a large factor |
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Sept 11, 2023 22:01:12 GMT -5
….ya the Red Sox have a bunch of Stanton type contract too….right? So now there is a different category for sucking. If we don't have a Stanton type contract do the Sox suck less? Not in my book but I come from a time before participation trophys were presented. Only one team from each league went to the series but the bar keeps lowering so set your sights lower. I think they are both mediocre by todays standards. By the standards I started watching baseball with they both suck. Fewer bad contracts make the Red Sox easier to fix in a shorter time frame…. The record is the record, but the underlying contracts make the future outcomes different. |
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Post by ephus on Sept 11, 2023 22:59:18 GMT -5
I think we need Jarred to define "poking around." this as well... I don’t buy the “Chaim is in the hot seat” line for a second. He’s got last year’s 2c pick at AA at 19, this year’s pick at AA two months after the draft and both players he got last year for Vasquez logging legit innings in Boston. You also have a farm that is ready - in the next year-and-a-half to deliver as many as six additional players if the team decides to go that route in Rafaela, Teel, Marcelo, Wickerman, Yorke and Roman. With another very promising wave behind that. But I think we need to recognize that this offseason could very well be the one when we see prospects and established players flipped to strengthen the rotation, improve team defense and open up opportunities for some of the aforementioned players - which also means a few of those players will also be dealt. You have to part with talent to deliver talent. It is time for the rebuild to put together a roster that is capable of playing well into October and that means hard decisions are coming. |
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