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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 22, 2024 8:23:26 GMT -5
I feel like we split the next two games and there is an interesting decision to make on Porzingis’ potential return for game four.
Hopefully we go 3-0 but the Pacers looked scary last night and Im not expecting it.
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Post by GyIantosca on May 22, 2024 10:47:38 GMT -5
I been loving JB he has really established himself. Those 2 work good off each other. Personally I thought the first 2 would be the same as the other series. But when u snatch a win from certain defeat teams that win it all always get the breaks or make them . We have 2 of the best wings. How much better can Indiana play.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 22, 2024 11:43:02 GMT -5
When the game gets tight sure it's easy to point fingers and blame this or that, but as a true fan who has been to the rodeo before man up and act like it. There are fans everywhere who can't relate to the previous statement, never be that fan. Nuff said, you are are on the bus this year or you are not, there are no more stops for you to decide, I actually thought the last stop was when the playoffs began, man up or you never will. You’re making me want to break out of my “LARP”… I’ll have to sleep on this decision Ok Jody, I thought about it and I’m going to stop the charade. I’ve been annoyed with Celtics fans most of the season but especially during this playoffs for being overly negative. My comment about you missing the last week here was because that was when I decided to go full heel and play into the tropes people have been saying about this team. I was (am?) at the point where I feel like Celtics fans are some of the worst out there. It’s like they got upset that Felger called them Green Teamers for years and decided to be overly negative. I said I was going to play into it and just be negative about them as an over reaction because it was driving me crazy defending them. I guess predictively (if i had thought it thru) the only ones I’d annoy during game play would be the fans like me who hate the negativity. So there you have it, I’m going to go back to being the one annoyed by other fans.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 22, 2024 11:52:46 GMT -5
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Post by rhswanzey on May 22, 2024 12:21:33 GMT -5
I feel like we split the next two games and there is an interesting decision to make on Porzingis’ potential return for game four. Hopefully we go 3-0 but the Pacers looked scary last night and Im not expecting it. After the RWIII experience, I’d be okay with not putting KP out there as soon as medically possible. Hopefully the C’s put themselves in a strong enough position to at least consider that it might be more risky to play him ASAP than to risk keeping a key piece sidelined in a highly competitive series.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 22, 2024 13:45:42 GMT -5
I feel like we split the next two games and there is an interesting decision to make on Porzingis’ potential return for game four. Hopefully we go 3-0 but the Pacers looked scary last night and Im not expecting it. After the RWIII experience, I’d be okay with not putting KP out there as soon as medically possible. Hopefully the C’s put themselves in a strong enough position to at least consider that it might be more risky to play him ASAP than to risk keeping a key piece sidelined in a highly competitive series. His injury is nothing like Robert Williams. How they handled Robert Williams given his knee injury history was borderline criminal. Given what I've seen on his Soleus injury, what Basketball Reference calls it. They are doing exactly what you want.
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Post by trajanacc on May 22, 2024 14:55:13 GMT -5
You’re making me want to break out of my “LARP”… I’ll have to sleep on this decision Ok Jody, I thought about it and I’m going to stop the charade. I’ve been annoyed with Celtics fans most of the season but especially during this playoffs for being overly negative. My comment about you missing the last week here was because that was when I decided to go full heel and play into the tropes people have been saying about this team. I was (am?) at the point where I feel like Celtics fans are some of the worst out there. It’s like they got upset that Felger called them Green Teamers for years and decided to be overly negative. I said I was going to play into it and just be negative about them as an over reaction because it was driving me crazy defending them. I guess predictively (if i had thought it thru) the only ones I’d annoy during game play would be the fans like me who hate the negativity. So there you have it, I’m going to go back to being the one annoyed by other fans. I think when expectations are really high, people like to complain and be negative as a cope to bring things down to earth a little bit, so they don't need to feel quite so bad if/when the team loses. They can say "see I knew all along the Celtics were flawed" if/when they do lose. I also think that many fans quickly forget that past championship teams who ultimately got to the finish line were nonetheless also flawed; we tend to easily recall the dominant performances and the game-winning clutch shots, but maybe we forget when the '98 Bulls lost game 1 to the Jazz, or when Kobe shot 4-20 against the Pacers. I'm also a fan of Duke basketball, and this kind of irrational negativity litters their message boards constantly every season, every game--way, way worse than on here. I suspect that's partly because the mods on this site are better at controlling the nonsense, but also because the expectations are so high for that team.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 22, 2024 15:00:58 GMT -5
I thought he BALLED last night, the only truly bad shot he took was that contested 2 off a rebound in the final stretch of the 4th as he was WAY off balance. I think he could play tougher D, but I think that will come as Joe make adjustments.
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Post by rhswanzey on May 22, 2024 15:49:24 GMT -5
After the RWIII experience, I’d be okay with not putting KP out there as soon as medically possible. Hopefully the C’s put themselves in a strong enough position to at least consider that it might be more risky to play him ASAP than to risk keeping a key piece sidelined in a highly competitive series. His injury is nothing like Robert Williams. How they handled Robert Williams given his knee injury history was borderline criminal. Given what I've seen on his Soleus injury, what Basketball Reference calls it. They are doing exactly what you want. Well yeah, it’s a different injury (that didn’t require any procedure, unlike with RWIII). The similarities are that it’s a historically injury prone big without which a banner is a much bigger challenge. Given how aggressive TL’s return was relative to the originally stated timetable, you can’t help but wonder about an alternate reality where he sat for an extra week and change.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on May 22, 2024 17:15:06 GMT -5
Ok Jody, I thought about it and I’m going to stop the charade. I’ve been annoyed with Celtics fans most of the season but especially during this playoffs for being overly negative. My comment about you missing the last week here was because that was when I decided to go full heel and play into the tropes people have been saying about this team. I was (am?) at the point where I feel like Celtics fans are some of the worst out there. It’s like they got upset that Felger called them Green Teamers for years and decided to be overly negative. I said I was going to play into it and just be negative about them as an over reaction because it was driving me crazy defending them. I guess predictively (if i had thought it thru) the only ones I’d annoy during game play would be the fans like me who hate the negativity. So there you have it, I’m going to go back to being the one annoyed by other fans. I think when expectations are really high, people like to complain and be negative as a cope to bring things down to earth a little bit, so they don't need to feel quite so bad if/when the team loses. They can say "see I knew all along the Celtics were flawed" if/when they do lose. I also think that many fans quickly forget that past championship teams who ultimately got to the finish line were nonetheless also flawed; we tend to easily recall the dominant performances and the game-winning clutch shots, but maybe we forget when the '98 Bulls lost game 1 to the Jazz, or when Kobe shot 4-20 against the Pacers. I'm also a fan of Duke basketball, and this kind of irrational negativity litters their message boards constantly every season, every game--way, way worse than on here. I suspect that's partly because the mods on this site are better at controlling the nonsense, but also because the expectations are so high for that team. i actually think you are 100% dead-on, however I think those fans are figuratively acting like babies. I remember being about 16 or 17 years old working as a janitor at the Army base in Watertown, MA, and the old time facility guys asked me what I thought about the Sox and I said I think they can win it all this year and they laughed and laughed. I told them I'd rather believe and enjoy the ride the entire trip and be wrong 100 times then never believe until they did win it, (this is pre 2004 when Red Sox fan nation was a total loser mentality). They all look stunned like it was such a novel idea they didn't know what to make of it. People who cushion their feelings because they are afraid of the pain they'll feel later are IMHO pathetic. In terms of believing in your team when they have a chance to win it all it is better to believe and enjoy the trip and be wrong more often then your are right then bash them and whine to other fans wallowing in their own misery like an empty can rattling the most and bringing all those around them down. That is a losers mentality whether they realize it or not, it is. Whatever their reasons to be like that I could care less. It's a cancer to be around that mindset and they do it because they can't handle the pain, to bad, suck it up. They'll never admit and say they are realist.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on May 22, 2024 17:20:14 GMT -5
I feel like we split the next two games and there is an interesting decision to make on Porzingis’ potential return for game four. Hopefully we go 3-0 but the Pacers looked scary last night and Im not expecting it. Ideally, KP, plays at least one game before the Finals. Chances are he'll need at least a game to get his rhythm and feel back. If we are up 3-0 I'd still play him game 4 wether or not we need him this series can be debated but I don't think that's true for the Finals. if he's cleared and itching to go, I'd just limit the minutes. Playing him in this series is more about prepping him for the next.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 22, 2024 17:26:12 GMT -5
His injury is nothing like Robert Williams. How they handled Robert Williams given his knee injury history was borderline criminal. Given what I've seen on his Soleus injury, what Basketball Reference calls it. They are doing exactly what you want. Well yeah, it’s a different injury (that didn’t require any procedure, unlike with RWIII). The similarities are that it’s a historically injury prone big without which a banner is a much bigger challenge. Given how aggressive TL’s return was relative to the originally stated timetable, you can’t help but wonder about an alternate reality where he sat for an extra week and change. That's the whole point KP time-line was week to week, with reports saying if they advanced he could miss part or all of 2nd round. He's been active for weeks with multiple people saying he looks good. What are you seeing to think they are rushing him back?
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Post by wcp3 on May 22, 2024 19:40:25 GMT -5
I feel like we split the next two games and there is an interesting decision to make on Porzingis’ potential return for game four. Hopefully we go 3-0 but the Pacers looked scary last night and Im not expecting it. It wouldn’t shock me if they split the next two, especially since the Pacers are such a good home team. But I also think there’s something real to a team coming off a game 7 win and riding that momentum into game 1 of the next series. The fact that the Pacers didn’t win last night’s game has to be concerning for them, and I suspect they’ll look a lot more tired in game 2. (Not to mention I love Jaylen's criticism of the Celts despite pulling off a crazy win.)
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Post by cdj on May 22, 2024 21:48:32 GMT -5
The media discourse around this team is INSUFFERABLE
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Post by capesox on May 22, 2024 22:15:12 GMT -5
I would love for Dallas to make it to the finals, would be great matchup for Celtics. Everything looking good right now. I think both Dallas and Minnesota were not great in game 1.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2024 5:23:18 GMT -5
Luka 33/6/8 on 12/26 and 3/10 from 3 w/4 turnovers and a -9
Narrative: wow how amazing is Luka
Tatum: 36/12/4 on 12/26 and 2/8 from 3 w/ 4 turnovers and a plus 20
Narrative: Jason Tatum doesn’t have it
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2024 5:32:06 GMT -5
Rick Carlisle is widely considered one of the best coaches in the NBA and many love ti criticize Mazzula. Imagine if Mazzula refused to call a timeout to advance the ball late in the game or didn’t foul instead of letting Brown shoot a 3?
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2024 5:50:49 GMT -5
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Post by Don Caballero on May 23, 2024 12:37:45 GMT -5
Get some beers ready boys, because tonight INSANITY ENSUES again!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 23, 2024 12:47:36 GMT -5
Luka 33/6/8 on 12/26 and 3/10 from 3 w/4 turnovers and a -9 Narrative: wow how amazing is Luka Tatum: 36/12/4 on 12/26 and 2/8 from 3 w/ 4 turnovers and a plus 20 Narrative: Jason Tatum doesn’t have it Who is saying that? I mean Felger was even crazy positive after last game. Tatum played a great game and when our coach adjusted took over in overtime. A fair criticism is he was 1 for 7 on iso 3 point shots, you want to see more ball movement and assisted 3 pointers from him. Then again a lot of that is coaching and our coaches system. Like our coach not adjusting to the Pacers leaving Horford open, you certainly don't want Horford taking that many 3 point shots.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 23, 2024 13:03:25 GMT -5
Rick Carlisle is widely considered one of the best coaches in the NBA and many love ti criticize Mazzula. Imagine if Mazzula refused to call a timeout to advance the ball late in the game or didn’t foul instead of letting Brown shoot a 3? Carlisle is a great coach, he has that team playing team ball movement basketball. They get tons of easy baskets because of if and the D is much improved. Kinda reminds me of the 2018 Celtics, they just have more veterans. The no timeout was stupid, almost ever coach would do that. Not fouling is a toss up and not close to standard. LIke our coach fouling up 6, then that Tatum foul almost blowing crap up. He's much improved from a year ago, he still is a young coach who lacks a ton of experience. Want a fair criticism, took him way too long to adjust to that 3-2 trapping zone that has killed us late in games for years in the playoffs. I'll give him credit for actually adjusting in 2nd half of OT, that just needs to happen much sooner. He was also good going from man switch everything D to zone D. Kornet can play well in Zone and he can't play well in man switch everything because they attack him every time. So let's hope Tillman is ready, but his father just passed away, so he might be out still.
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Post by cdj on May 23, 2024 13:43:21 GMT -5
Luka 33/6/8 on 12/26 and 3/10 from 3 w/4 turnovers and a -9 Narrative: wow how amazing is Luka Tatum: 36/12/4 on 12/26 and 2/8 from 3 w/ 4 turnovers and a plus 20 Narrative: Jason Tatum doesn’t have it Who is saying that? I mean Felger was even crazy positive after last game. Tatum played a great game and when our coach adjusted took over in overtime. A fair criticism is he was 1 for 7 on iso 3 point shots, you want to see more ball movement and assisted 3 pointers from him. Then again a lot of that is coaching and our coaches system. Like our coach not adjusting to the Pacers leaving Horford open, you certainly don't want Horford taking that many 3 point shots. Bontemps, Perkins, Cowherd etc etc ….def plenty of ppl trashing Tatum. Now they are absolute morons but it is definitely out there
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2024 14:01:07 GMT -5
Who is saying that? I mean Felger was even crazy positive after last game. Tatum played a great game and when our coach adjusted took over in overtime. A fair criticism is he was 1 for 7 on iso 3 point shots, you want to see more ball movement and assisted 3 pointers from him. Then again a lot of that is coaching and our coaches system. Like our coach not adjusting to the Pacers leaving Horford open, you certainly don't want Horford taking that many 3 point shots. Bontemps, Perkins, Cowherd etc etc ….def plenty of ppl trashing Tatum. Now they are absolute morons but it is definitely out there I posted a Twitter thread of like 7 national shows trashing Tatum. It’s constant and it’s out there.
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Post by capesox on May 23, 2024 14:10:45 GMT -5
what has happened to Perkins? Why is he such a Celtics hater now? It seems like he has a vendetta against them this year. Everything he says about the Celtics is negative.
I think tonight's game will tell us if this will be a long series or short one. If C's come out and win this will probably go 5 games. If Pacers win they are in for a long battle.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2024 14:22:26 GMT -5
what has happened to Perkins? Why is he such a Celtics hater now? It seems like he has a vendetta against them this year. Everything he says about the Celtics is negative. I think tonight's game will tell us if this will be a long series or short one. If C's come out and win this will probably go 5 games. If Pacers win they are in for a long battle. Pacers were down 0-2 to NY and haven’t lost at home yet these playoffs. They aren’t going to fall apart if they go down 0-2. This is a much better team than people are giving them credit for.
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