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Post by cdj on Feb 22, 2024 8:14:31 GMT -5
I'll take listening to Sam Kennedy over Tom Werner 100 times out of 100. He's a bright guy and the Sox are his passion, but he's trying to be honest, yet not too unflattering at the same time about the state of the team. Listening to Werner makes me gag. He's so awkward. He's always trying to sell you something, and he has no sense of awareness whatsoever. Henry has that sense of awareness, that's why he has avoided talking for 4 years. Ask Padre fans what they think of Werner. Snake oil salesman would be a kind description. Cosby BFF |
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Post by asm18 on Feb 22, 2024 9:43:03 GMT -5
Uhhhh that doesn't sound great
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Post by puzzler on Feb 22, 2024 9:55:20 GMT -5
Boras bailout incoming.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 22, 2024 10:00:01 GMT -5
Eh, maybe but it seemed to me the Mets kind of assessed their ML team this offseason and realized they weren't going to be very competitive and that was with a healthy Senga. I don't think a Senga injury makes the Mets want to spend money to plug that hole, if anything I think it may have the opposite effect. |
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Post by asm18 on Feb 22, 2024 10:06:52 GMT -5
Per Mike Puma: "Kodai Senga had an MRI for a strain in the back of his shoulder. He is shut down for now. Expected to begin the season on the IL."
Could be worse for a surprise 10 am press conference I guess
EDIT: Does anyone know what a "moderate right posterior capsule strain" is? Where is Craig Breslow's medical background when you need it
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 22, 2024 10:14:50 GMT -5
Doesn't seem like that's commonly used phrasing based on Google, but I think that means rotator cuff. Bad news
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Post by asm18 on Feb 22, 2024 10:22:55 GMT -5
Doesn't seem like that's commonly used phrasing based on Google, but I think that means rotator cuff. Bad news Yiiiiiikes Well, I suppose a Severino-Quintana-Manaea rotation would be great for the Mets if Steven Cohen can afford a time machine to bring them to the future from 2017 |
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Feb 22, 2024 10:32:54 GMT -5
Doesn't seem like that's commonly used phrasing based on Google, but I think that means rotator cuff. Bad news Your capsule is connective tissue and ligaments that stabilize your shoulder, no rotator cuff involvement. A moderate strain is concerning but I'd suspect that they're not rushing for surgery is a good sign. Should have a better idea on his status after a few weeks of conservative treatment. |
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Post by 0ap0 on Feb 22, 2024 10:55:14 GMT -5
EDIT: Does anyone know what a "moderate right posterior capsule strain" is? Where is Craig Breslow's medical background when you need it Not that I think you were seriously asking, but a guy who studied molecular biochemistry as an undergrad is about as far away as it's possible to get from having insight into "ow my shoulder hurts". |
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Post by greatscottcooper on Feb 22, 2024 11:15:39 GMT -5
EDIT: Does anyone know what a "moderate right posterior capsule strain" is? Where is Craig Breslow's medical background when you need it Not that I think you were seriously asking, but a guy who studied molecular biochemistry as an undergrad is about as far away as it's possible to get from having insight into "ow my shoulder hurts". I dunno, I think having a degree in art history would take you much further away from at least having a science based degree. Point is, I could get you much further away than that. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 22, 2024 11:45:07 GMT -5
Pete Abe tweeted that the Sox are going to have Yorke work into OF drills in camp to try and increase his versatility. Makes plenty of sense to me since he's currently behind Grissom in the pecking order and if things go well for Grissom it'd be hard to see Yorke passing him. Never hurts to try and add the ability to play other positions for a minor leaguer either. Sadly, to me Yorke seems likely to end up being more valuable as a trade chip than as a future Sox if things go as planned though.
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Post by 0ap0 on Feb 22, 2024 13:47:36 GMT -5
It's always bothered me that the 'market' for prospects is so inefficient that the response to "this kid is good, but he's redundant/blocked on our team" tends to be "maybe he could be ok at doing something he's worse/less valuable at" instead of "he should do his thing somewhere else."
It's why I'm much more down on all the BPA talk around the draft than most here.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 22, 2024 14:09:15 GMT -5
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Post by puzzler on Feb 22, 2024 14:26:45 GMT -5
It's always bothered me that the 'market' for prospects is so inefficient that the response to "this kid is good, but he's redundant/blocked on our team" tends to be "maybe he could be ok at doing something he's worse/less valuable at" instead of "he should do his thing somewhere else." It's why I'm much more down on all the BPA talk around the draft than most here. In general I agree with you. But with Yorke, there's a real opportunity for him to help the big league team this year. Not guaranteed, but the bat could be very useful if someone gets hurt. The only way that's at 2B though is if Grissom is either bad or the injured party. If O'Neill for example were to go down, if Yorke can play LF - that would be a good thing. And even if that is a pipe dream...it's camp - if he can get more reps in big league than he would otherwise, I like it. I do think people have been underestimating Yorke basically his entire career though. He's not even 22 yet and is locked in as the starting 2B in AAA. |
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Post by redsoxfansince94 on Feb 22, 2024 14:34:53 GMT -5
So is Bobby a lock to make the team or does he have competition?
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Post by RedSoxStats on Feb 22, 2024 14:37:40 GMT -5
Red Sox spring training statcast games
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Post by puzzler on Feb 22, 2024 14:38:59 GMT -5
So is Bobby a lock to make the team or does he have competition? All subject to change, but at this point, I'd say he pretty much does have a spot. They need power right handed bats, they could use additional backup at 1B, 3B. And if he can fill in in the outfield, it's almost a no brainer. Now if they trade an outfielder - I'd say that makes it more of an open question. Ex. if they traded Duran that pretty much guarantees that Rafaela starts the year in the majors and/or they sign a powerish right handed bat (Duvall/Pham) and then Big Bob's value decreases pretty heftily. |
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Post by wanderingdude on Feb 22, 2024 15:06:49 GMT -5
Does anyone know if he’s working as a starter or reliever for this year? I assumed reliever but really haven’t heard anything definitive. |
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Post by badfishnbc on Feb 22, 2024 15:07:50 GMT -5
Weissert really embracing his post-Yankees facial hair freedom, isn't he?
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 22, 2024 15:09:57 GMT -5
Helcris Olivarez is an exciting one to get a look at. If you don't remember, he was a pretty big prospect with the Rockies who was protected from the Rule 5 draft before getting out of rookie ball. He missed 2020 to Covid, and 22 and 23 to injuries, but showed great stuff at the very tail end of 23 in game action.
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Post by chaimtime on Feb 22, 2024 15:21:52 GMT -5
It's always bothered me that the 'market' for prospects is so inefficient that the response to "this kid is good, but he's redundant/blocked on our team" tends to be "maybe he could be ok at doing something he's worse/less valuable at" instead of "he should do his thing somewhere else." It's why I'm much more down on all the BPA talk around the draft than most here. In general I agree with you. But with Yorke, there's a real opportunity for him to help the big league team this year. Not guaranteed, but the bat could be very useful if someone gets hurt. The only way that's at 2B though is if Grissom is either bad or the injured party. If O'Neill for example were to go down, if Yorke can play LF - that would be a good thing. And even if that is a pipe dream...it's camp - if he can get more reps in big league than he would otherwise, I like it. I do think people have been underestimating Yorke basically his entire career though. He's not even 22 yet and is locked in as the starting 2B in AAA. I think it’s simpler than that. This is the highest level of professional baseball, so the bar for a 26-man spot is extremely high. A guy like Yorke is on the cusp of being a big leaguer, but there are questions about whether the bat and the glove are good enough to be a regular. A backup second baseman who isn’t great on either side of the ball isn’t all that valuable, but if he can play some corner outfield, too, then that extra little bit of value helps him beat someone else out for a spot on the bench. |
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Post by jimoh on Feb 22, 2024 15:24:35 GMT -5
So is Bobby a lock to make the team or does he have competition? All subject to change, but at this point, I'd say he pretty much does have a spot. They need power right handed bats, they could use additional backup at 1B, 3B. And if he can fill in in the outfield, it's almost a no brainer. Now if they trade an outfielder - I'd say that makes it more of an open question. Ex. if they traded Duran that pretty much guarantees that Rafaela starts the year in the majors and/or they sign a powerish right handed bat (Duvall/Pham) and then Big Bob's value decreases pretty heftily. The problem with Dalbec as 4th bench person is that the only backup SSs are he and Grissom: no Reyes, nobody good at D. Grissom at SS and Valdez at 2b is not a good ninth inning look. Will Story play every inning? |
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 22, 2024 15:26:41 GMT -5
Feels a smidge too early to be declaring that Dalbec has a spot on the bench. He checks some boxes for sure, RHH with power that can backup 1st/3rd but leaves them pretty thin up the middle if he takes the spot over say Rafaela or Reyes.
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Post by scottysmalls on Feb 22, 2024 15:39:06 GMT -5
All subject to change, but at this point, I'd say he pretty much does have a spot. They need power right handed bats, they could use additional backup at 1B, 3B. And if he can fill in in the outfield, it's almost a no brainer. Now if they trade an outfielder - I'd say that makes it more of an open question. Ex. if they traded Duran that pretty much guarantees that Rafaela starts the year in the majors and/or they sign a powerish right handed bat (Duvall/Pham) and then Big Bob's value decreases pretty heftily. The problem with Dalbec as 4th bench person is that the only backup SSs are he and Grissom: no Reyes, nobody good at D. Grissom at SS and Valdez at 2b is not a good ninth inning look. Will Story play every inning? Or Dalbec and Reyes both make the roster and Valdez starts in AAA. |
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Post by iamnotluistiant on Feb 22, 2024 15:39:11 GMT -5
What's the deal with Red Sox fans love affair with Dalbec...aside from a 100 game stretch when he first came up, he's repeatedly shown that he can't consistently hit major league pitching. For every hundred AB's he gets he'll have 6 singles, 2 doubles and 6 homeruns for a. 140 average to go along with 35-40 strikeuts and 2-3 walks--a bit of sarcasm there. He plays mediocre defense.
There is a reason why the Red Sox kept down in AAA all of last year (unless the dude wants to become the next Crash Davis and be the career leader in minor league homeruns) and apparently no other MLB team wanted to trade for him.
We could find a better bench player off the waiver wire.
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