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Post by asm18 on May 22, 2024 16:38:43 GMT -5
I’m inclined to believe Soto is going back to the Yankees and Boras will use the Mets to drive the price up in December, but it would be complete insanity if two different franchises traded a crap load for the dude whose comp is Ted Williams with no tangible well-thought plan on how to retain him
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Post by ematz1423 on May 22, 2024 16:45:39 GMT -5
If I were a betting man I'd say Soto will be back with yankees but it's probably like a 50/50 chance in my eyes. They'd be resigning themselves to being over the LT for a long long time if they do pay him the likely 40+ AAV it's going to take.
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Post by incandenza on May 22, 2024 16:54:47 GMT -5
I see you guys psychologically girding yourselves for Soto to stay with the Yankees. I respect that, I do. But the Mets seem like the obvious destination to me. Their books are surprisingly clear - only $170 million committed for next year and $120 million for 2026 (Yankees are $190 million and $162 million). Cohen took that step back last offseason, and what was that if not preparing to jump back in next offseason? And for whom would he jump if not Soto?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 22, 2024 18:51:21 GMT -5
Listened to Baseball is Dead. According to them, Mason miller's last 9 innings... 9 IP 0 H 0 ER 1 BB 18 K Since April 9 15.1-1-0-0-2-33
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Post by julyanmorley on May 22, 2024 20:21:43 GMT -5
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Post by kwodes on May 22, 2024 21:02:16 GMT -5
Listened to Baseball is Dead. According to them, Mason miller's last 9 innings... 9 IP 0 H 0 ER 1 BB 18 K Since April 9 15.1-1-0-0-2-33 They were suggesting he starts the All-Star game. That would be so cool.
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Post by ematz1423 on May 23, 2024 7:06:56 GMT -5
I see you guys psychologically girding yourselves for Soto to stay with the Yankees. I respect that, I do. But the Mets seem like the obvious destination to me. Their books are surprisingly clear - only $170 million committed for next year and $120 million for 2026 (Yankees are $190 million and $162 million). Cohen took that step back last offseason, and what was that if not preparing to jump back in next offseason? And for whom would he jump if not Soto? Well I may have to change my prediction from 50/50 odds on the Yankees retaining Soto after seeing that Hal Steinbrenner is already crying poor saying they can't sustain this type of payroll. It would take some payroll gymnastics to fit in another 40-50M 8-10 year deal to their payroll while also trying to cut payroll at the same time. You might be on to something with the Mets, Soto might be ripe for the pickings for them.. sports.yahoo.com/yankees-owner-hal-steinbrenner-says-teams-payroll-3rd-in-mlb-not-sustainable-for-us-financially-224443070.html
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Post by shagworthy on May 23, 2024 14:41:41 GMT -5
Joey Wendle "Met" an early demise. Guess we dodged a bullet there.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 23, 2024 23:54:47 GMT -5
This game is dead.
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Post by seamus on May 24, 2024 10:50:02 GMT -5
Genuine question: how much of a hot take is it to say Skenes is already the best pitcher in the major leagues? Like, there are more accomplished guys, of course, and maybe a couple guys who I'd rather start a playoff game because I'd feel more comfortable pushing them past a certain pitch count... but some random midweek game in the middle of summer? Not sure who I'd rather have on the bump.
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Post by James Dunne on May 24, 2024 11:43:31 GMT -5
For a one start, yeah I don't think it's crazy. I'm probably leaning Zack Wheeler since he's got a history of success and his stuff obviously measures up and everything. But there's not a single healthy pitcher whose out there who we'd be like "this is a pitcher in his prime who will probably be a Hall of Famer." Trivia question: What under-30 pitcher has the highest career bWAR? Sandy Alcantara.
FWIW, I probably would've guessed Corbin Burnes.
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Post by threeifbaerga on May 24, 2024 11:45:12 GMT -5
And it's still short of 20. Good grief.
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Post by asm18 on May 24, 2024 14:07:21 GMT -5
In terms of having clear candidates for the Best Pitcher Alive Belt, it feels like we jumped from the 90’s/early 2000’s (Pedro, Randy Johnson, Clemens, etc) to the mid-2010’s (Verlander, Kershaw, Scherzer) quite smoothly. (All of those guys mentioned won a ring!) But it’s so crazy that even though pitching is as talented as it’s ever been, so few starters have become fixtures that to Seamus’ question you can ask if Paul Skenes is already the best starter in baseball - at the bar minimum in terms of talent. Was curious, and from 2020-2024, here are the top 20 starters (minimum 250 innings) by ERA, and what’s up with them: Still Pitching, And (For the Most Part) Good: Verlander, Fried, Burnes, Gallen, Gausman, Suarez, Wheeler, Buelher (literally just returned) Injured: DeGrom, Kershaw, Woodruff, Scherzer, Ohtani, Cole, Gonsolin, Alcantara, McCullers, Bieber, McClanahan Legal Issues: Urias Not only have so few guys been healthy enough to have sustained runs of excellence like some of the 90’s & early 2000’s legends, but even some of the more durable ones have their warts. For instance, here below is Gerrit Cole - who just as an aside, has never won a ring - imploding in the 2021 Wild Card game after being bullied by Red Sox fans:
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Post by grandsalami on May 25, 2024 16:17:49 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on May 25, 2024 17:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 25, 2024 20:07:20 GMT -5
Weirdly related and if interested, you will need to find it yourself but M.I.T. is offering 10 free classes online including ' Probability - The Science of Uncertainty and Data'.
Maybe they have a discussion of the difference between cause and effect to help the BABIP people.
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Post by grandsalami on May 26, 2024 18:37:30 GMT -5
Things are going swimmingly in white sox land
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Post by julyanmorley on May 26, 2024 21:23:55 GMT -5
Ronald Acuna tore his ACL again
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Post by ixnayexxus on May 26, 2024 21:47:03 GMT -5
Ronald Acuna tore his ACL again Absolutely awful news
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Post by mobaz on May 27, 2024 11:39:01 GMT -5
Victor Robles was DFA'd. Formerly consensus Top 10 prospect 3 years running and had 4 bWAR as a rookie. Shows how fleeting all this is and makes me sad that Marcelo/Anthony/Teel truly dominating for a decade is basically a pipe dream. Now I'm sad.
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Post by shagworthy on May 27, 2024 11:51:01 GMT -5
Things are going swimmingly in white sox land I am just amazed how they somehow ended up with a worse manager than La Russa. Who is their next hire, one of the floaters from the Colosseum bathroom?
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Post by brendan98 on May 27, 2024 17:12:07 GMT -5
Victor Robles was DFA'd. Formerly consensus Top 10 prospect 3 years running and had 4 bWAR as a rookie. Shows how fleeting all this is and makes me sad that Marcelo/Anthony/Teel truly dominating for a decade is basically a pipe dream. Now I'm sad. Anyone else think the Sox should claim or deal for Robles? Put him in CF and Ceddane at SS, max out on defense and speed in the lineup?
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Post by threeifbaerga on May 27, 2024 17:25:21 GMT -5
Victor Robles was DFA'd. Formerly consensus Top 10 prospect 3 years running and had 4 bWAR as a rookie. Shows how fleeting all this is and makes me sad that Marcelo/Anthony/Teel truly dominating for a decade is basically a pipe dream. Now I'm sad. Anyone else think the Sox should claim or deal for Robles? Put him in CF and Ceddane at SS, max out on defense and speed in the lineup? This would be my move in OOTP. Costs nothing to give it a run for a couple weeks, see if there's more to get out of him.
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on May 27, 2024 20:22:40 GMT -5
Prayers have been answered
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Post by redsox3in10 on May 27, 2024 21:19:51 GMT -5
Prayers have been answered Fantastic news for everyone who watches baseball and has eyes.
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