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Post by chaimtime on Oct 2, 2024 11:50:34 GMT -5
Diamond Sports is officially ending their deals with the Cards, Reds, Tigers, Royals, Angels, Marlins, Rays, Brewers, Guardians, Twins and Rangers. I think those teams were getting somewhere between 80 and 100% of the money they were owned from their Diamond deals and now have to find something else. Cards and Twins have already begun to warn their fans that spending is going down I know this is the non-Red Sox thread, but I am curious how the death of RSNs has contributed to the Red Sox’ limited spending in recent years. NESN is not the money printer it used to be, after all.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 2, 2024 11:52:52 GMT -5
Although I can't say I've ever discussed this with anyone, I'm going to suggest that at the major league level, the first base coach has nothing to do with the team's stolen base success rate (unless he's also the baserunning coach or something in a capacity entirely unrelated to coaching first). In MLB, the first base coach is pretty much a glorified coat rack. Maybe an exaggeration but not by much. Man, I hope Lynn Jones, Luis Alicea, Arnie Beyler and Tom Goodwin don't see this because you may see a glorified coat rack where I see a champion. Yes, every Red Sox world series winner has a first base coach. I'm curious what effect you think the first base coach has on an MLB team's running game.
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Post by abrinker on Oct 2, 2024 12:56:48 GMT -5
Diamond Sports is officially ending their deals with the Cards, Reds, Tigers, Royals, Angels, Marlins, Rays, Brewers, Guardians, Twins and Rangers. I think those teams were getting somewhere between 80 and 100% of the money they were owned from their Diamond deals and now have to find something else. Cards and Twins have already begun to warn their fans that spending is going down I know this is the non-Red Sox thread, but I am curious how the death of RSNs has contributed to the Red Sox’ limited spending in recent years. NESN is not the money printer it used to be, after all. Just made a similar comment on a different thread. Not only this, but it figures that these 11 teams are going to need to fill that gap in their cash flow and they'll probably have to settle for a lower alternative, which may mean FA contract values (except for top of the market types) will continue to suffer, and trade market could be flooded as cash-strapped clubs are trying to adjust to tight P&L constraints. A confluence of factors that create a window of opportunity (market inefficiencies) for teams less affected by TV revenue softness. Of course, if the same thing is affecting the Sox, they may not be positioned to take advantage.
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Post by bishop on Oct 2, 2024 13:15:51 GMT -5
I know this is the non-Red Sox thread, but I am curious how the death of RSNs has contributed to the Red Sox’ limited spending in recent years. NESN is not the money printer it used to be, after all. Just made a similar comment on a different thread. Not only this, but it figures that these 11 teams are going to need to fill that gap in their cash flow and they'll probably have to settle for a lower alternative, which may mean FA contract values (except for top of the market types) will continue to suffer, and trade market could be flooded as cash-strapped clubs are trying to adjust to tight P&L constraints. A confluence of factors that create a window of opportunity (market inefficiencies) for teams less affected by TV revenue softness. Of course, if the same thing is affecting the Sox, they may not be positioned to take advantage. NESN may not be the cash cow it was when the team was winning but it's not going bankrupt. The Red Sox still have a lot of regional appeal like the Braves who are the one team Diamond isn't trying to drop or re-negotiate rights fees with.
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 2, 2024 13:33:44 GMT -5
the list of teams that aren't on the diamond sports list, aren't historically super cheap, are trying to win and aren't already in luxury tax penalty hell is very small.
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Post by asm18 on Oct 2, 2024 14:21:44 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 2, 2024 14:39:02 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 3, 2024 15:08:29 GMT -5
They can add a whole lot of money before they get to the luxury tax
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 3, 2024 15:53:53 GMT -5
Man, I hope Lynn Jones, Luis Alicea, Arnie Beyler and Tom Goodwin don't see this because you may see a glorified coat rack where I see a champion. Yes, every Red Sox world series winner has a first base coach. I'm curious what effect you think the first base coach has on an MLB team's running game. ...but not every first base coach is on a world series winner. That condition has a logical implication: "necessary but not sufficient"... not by a long shot.
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 3, 2024 16:01:47 GMT -5
Another team signaling a frugal offseason
edit: This is the Astros, I guess that's not clear from the tweet
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 3, 2024 17:41:32 GMT -5
There have been a number of posts about the situation facing teams that were in Diamond's orbit. That Sinclair spinoff either underestimated cord-cutting and the switchover to broadband or they were just rolling the dice with bankruptcy as a backup strategy. Either way teams are taking a substantial hit on income and they'll have to trim budgets to make anything approaching previous profit margins.
Self-sustaining RSNs such as NESN should fare better, but I have no doubt they're also feeling the pinch if they haven't adapted to this reality.
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 3, 2024 21:07:42 GMT -5
Reds are hiring Terry Francona to be their manager
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Post by abrinker on Oct 3, 2024 23:06:24 GMT -5
There have been a number of posts about the situation facing teams that were in Diamond's orbit. That Sinclair spinoff either underestimated cord-cutting and the switchover to broadband or they were just rolling the dice with bankruptcy as a backup strategy. Either way teams are taking a substantial hit on income and they'll have to trim budgets to make anything approaching previous profit margins. Self-sustaining RSNs such as NESN should fare better, but I have no doubt they're also feeling the pinch if they haven't adapted to this reality. I wonder if this offseason is going to be real slow, as front offices see it as an unusual buyer’s market and wait out free agents who are holding out for unrealistic valuations. I just don’t see a lot of big spenders, perhaps with the exception of Baltimore. Those willing to spend should be able to find great values.
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Post by keninten on Oct 3, 2024 23:48:10 GMT -5
Reds are hiring Terry Francona to be their manager Glad he`s going to a team I like. Thought the Reds might win that division. Hope Terry takes them over the top.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 4, 2024 6:32:26 GMT -5
Reds are hiring Terry Francona to be their manager Glad he`s going to a team I like. Thought the Reds might win that division. Hope Terry takes them over the top. The Francona vs Elly cribbage games are going to be epic.
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Post by mobaz on Oct 4, 2024 9:34:02 GMT -5
There have been a number of posts about the situation facing teams that were in Diamond's orbit. That Sinclair spinoff either underestimated cord-cutting and the switchover to broadband or they were just rolling the dice with bankruptcy as a backup strategy. Either way teams are taking a substantial hit on income and they'll have to trim budgets to make anything approaching previous profit margins. Self-sustaining RSNs such as NESN should fare better, but I have no doubt they're also feeling the pinch if they haven't adapted to this reality. I wonder if this offseason is going to be real slow, as front offices see it as an unusual buyer’s market and wait out free agents who are holding out for unrealistic valuations. I just don’t see a lot of big spenders, perhaps with the exception of Baltimore. Those willing to spend should be able to find great values. When the Dodgers got their insane TV deal with Time Warner a decade ago, I felt like YES and NESN were a little bit of a burden because they can only make the money they make, but something like the Dodgers deal can bring price certainty and obviously had speculation built into the (over)price. Then they had trouble recouping it via carriage fees, and apparently large parts of the market still don't get the station. That was a precursor to the complete collapse of the Bally's network of networks. I think a day of reckoning is coming, because national deals aren't going to keep growing at the pace of NBA and NFL (which are national games) and someone if not everyone is gonna end up with hurt feelings/pocketbooks. But to me that means an investment in the Red Sox that results in more enthusiasm and more NESN viewers makes more sense since the money goes straight into the owners' pockets.
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 4, 2024 11:28:29 GMT -5
Thad Levine is leaving the Twins GM job. He was the finalist here with Breslow a year ago with some speculation that he'd be #1 to Breslow's #2. We have had an open GM spot for a year..
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Post by ematz1423 on Oct 4, 2024 11:31:22 GMT -5
Thad Levine is leaving the Twins GM job. He was the finalist here with Breslow a year ago with some speculation that he'd be #1 to Breslow's #2. We have had an open GM spot for a year.. Breslow did say at the beginning of the year that they would be hiring a GM after he got settled in. I feel like Levine has a done a solid job with the Twins, I'd take him but not sure how likely it is. Probably not very if I had to guess?
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Post by bloomstaxonomy on Oct 4, 2024 11:42:40 GMT -5
He played youth soccer with Paul DePodesta. Moneyball 2.0?
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 4, 2024 18:26:52 GMT -5
TJS for Joe Musgrove
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Post by TearsIn04 on Oct 4, 2024 20:51:31 GMT -5
My immediate reaction to the Francona news was a lot of surprise and a bit of disappointment. He's already a sure HOFer and is an older dude with a major history of health issues. He's not hurting for disposable income.
I love the guy like all of us on here. I just he's doing the right thing for his health and future quality of life.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 4, 2024 21:00:36 GMT -5
My initial gut reaction to the Francona news was a lot of surprise and a bit of disappointment. He's already a sure HOFer and is an older dude with a major history of health issues. He's not hurting for disposable income. I love the guy like all of us on here. I just he's doing the right thing for his health and future quality of life. I think it's just in his blood and he doesnt know what to do with humself without baseball. He's just a lifer. A great day for the Cincinnati Reds.
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 4, 2024 21:17:40 GMT -5
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