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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 29, 2024 19:31:30 GMT -5
Well, the 1962 Mets get to keep the lowest winning percentage in modern times, depending upon what you define as modern. At least in the expansion era, they do, as their 40-120 record is .250 baseball.
And with the White Sox win, they wind up the same 80 games under .500 but with a 41-121 record, with 1 additional win and 1 additional loss, so while only the 1899 Cleveland Spiders ever lost more games in a season than the ChiSox's 121 losses, the White Sox finished with a .253 winning percentage, or basically they won as often as Wilyer Abreu got a hit, lol.
Too bad the White Sox won 5 of their last 6 games or else they could have gone down as the worst team in modern expansion era baseball without any dispute.
Poor unlucky Tigers and Angels - they caught the juggernaut version of the White Sox team, lol.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 30, 2024 3:01:04 GMT -5
4) Mets and DB's win, Braves lose. A Mets sweep produces the same result as in #3 above -- them 5, DB's 6. A Braves sweep gives them 5 and the DB's 6. A split creates a 3 way tie, and the tiebreakers give you Braves 5, Mets 6. Again, the split can be semi-intentional if the Braves win game 1. This is the situation. D-Backs need sweeps, otherwise they are out. If the Braves win game 1, they lock in the 5 seed and have no incentive to try in the second game (unless they want to end the Mets season). If the Mets win game 1, they are in but they'd be playing for seeding in game 2. To add detail ... they would be trying to sweep and grab the 5 sees, with the 6 going to the D-Backs.
HOWEVER ...
1) Chris Sale now has 10 days rest. Clearly they're saving him for game 1 of the playoffs. But if the Braves lose game 1, would they use Sale for game 2? ESPN in fact has him as the game 2 starter, even though it is officially TBD. If they do that, the Mets are much less likely to sweep and grab the 5 seed ...
2) But do they care? After the trade deadline the 4-seed Padres were 3.5 games better than the 3-seed Brewrs, a very large difference for 1/3 of the season. The Brewers might have had longer to line up their rotation, but I don't think that's enough to offset the Padre's late blooming. And furthermore ...
3) After the first round the five and six seeds swap! If the 5 seed upsets the 4, they take the old 4 slot, and face the #1. If the 6 upsets the 3, they take the 3 slot and face the 2.
So my take ...
* The Braves are almost certain to get to the playoffs, but if they can do that without burning Sale, by winning game 1, that is huge.
* The D-Backs sole hope is that the Brave's scrub game 2 lineup beats the all-in Mets. Stranger things have happened.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 30, 2024 6:04:44 GMT -5
This is the situation. D-Backs need sweeps, otherwise they are out. If the Braves win game 1, they lock in the 5 seed and have no incentive to try in the second game (unless they want to end the Mets season). If the Mets win game 1, they are in but they'd be playing for seeding in game 2. To add detail ... they would be trying to sweep and grab the 5 sees, with the 6 going to the D-Backs. HOWEVER ... 1) Chris Sale now has 10 days rest. Clearly they're saving him for game 1 of the playoffs. But if the Braves lose game 1, would they use Sale for game 2? ESPN in fact has him as the game 2 starter, even though it is officially TBD. If they do that, the Mets are much less likely to sweep and grab the 5 seed ... 2) But do they care? After the trade deadline the 4-seed Padres were 3.5 games better than the 3-seed Brewrs, a very large difference for 1/3 of the season. The Brewers might have had longer to line up their rotation, but I don't think that's enough to offset the Padre's late blooming. And furthermore ... 3) After the first round the five and six seeds swap! If the 5 seed upsets the 4, they take the old 4 slot, and face the #1. If the 6 upsets the 3, they take the 3 slot and face the 2.
So my take ... * The Braves are almost certain to get to the playoffs, but if they can do that without burning Sale, by winning game 1, that is huge. * The D-Backs sole hope is that the Brave's scrub game 2 lineup beats the all-in Mets. Stranger things have happened.
Chris Sale hasn't pitched in 10 days. On MLB network there was speculation that Sale is going through some sort of injury or an illness. His velocity was down last outing and his command wasnt as sharp as it has been. They didnt think it was a case of just putting him in bubble wrap until Game 1. That has to be concerning for the Braves. As Red Sox fans I would think we've seen signs like this with Chris Sale and his health before.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 30, 2024 11:51:08 GMT -5
I've seen it reported that Sale is pitching game 2 if needed. That's why it's TBD - if they don't need him they're saving him for the playoffs.
I think Severino is in a similar position with the Mets - if they get in he's probably not starting game 2 but if they need it he will.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 30, 2024 12:08:27 GMT -5
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 30, 2024 12:08:41 GMT -5
WTF???
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 30, 2024 12:09:09 GMT -5
Beat me by a millisecond!
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 30, 2024 12:28:02 GMT -5
Well that story about Posey negotiating the Matt Chapman extension makes a lot more sense now. That deal was pretty player friendly.
Giants fans were probably out on Farhan but I would be pretty scared of the Buster Posey era.
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Post by bloomstaxonomy on Sept 30, 2024 12:41:45 GMT -5
I remember that when the extension was announced, there was a lot of spin to say "These things happen," "Zaidi delegated Posey to finish the job," "It was just a normal sales pitch by a franchise icon that just happened to work," etc.
It smelled fishy when it happened, and it's no surprise that this is the end result imo.
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Sept 30, 2024 12:47:01 GMT -5
Give us the first active player/POBO. I need pitchers terrified to shake off a pitch to their boss.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 30, 2024 13:57:05 GMT -5
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 30, 2024 14:55:53 GMT -5
This Mets Braves game is absolutely insane
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Post by ephus on Sept 30, 2024 14:57:23 GMT -5
This Mets Braves game is absolutely insane My productivity is taking a hit for sure.
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Post by sxfan on Sept 30, 2024 15:32:03 GMT -5
Yikes must win or go home game.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 30, 2024 15:36:12 GMT -5
Love this. The only alternative was that everyone just wears those iconic Ken Griffey Jr. 1998 Coors Field HR Derby jerseys.
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Post by bluechip on Sept 30, 2024 16:20:53 GMT -5
Yikes must win or go home game. Chris Sale giveth…
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Post by incandenza on Sept 30, 2024 16:24:05 GMT -5
Well that story about Posey negotiating the Matt Chapman extension makes a lot more sense now. That deal was pretty player friendly. Giants fans were probably out on Farhan but I would be pretty scared of the Buster Posey era. Posey got tired of spending time with his kids real quick I guess.
A guy being a beloved franchise player who just happens to also be the right guy to serve as POBO seems about as improbable as a guy who has a 50/50 season and also just happens to be an ace pitcher. But ya never know I suppose.
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Post by threeifbaerga on Sept 30, 2024 17:24:39 GMT -5
Well that story about Posey negotiating the Matt Chapman extension makes a lot more sense now. That deal was pretty player friendly. Giants fans were probably out on Farhan but I would be pretty scared of the Buster Posey era. Posey got tired of spending time with his kids real quick I guess.
A guy being a beloved franchise player who just happens to also be the right guy to serve as POBO seems about as improbable as a guy who has a 50/50 season and also just happens to be an ace pitcher. But ya never know I suppose.
Idk I kinda like the idea of not needing every GM to be a Harvard MBA. Nobody ever called Buster Posey a dummy and the Giants definitely need a kick in the rear end.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 30, 2024 17:44:46 GMT -5
Posey got tired of spending time with his kids real quick I guess.
A guy being a beloved franchise player who just happens to also be the right guy to serve as POBO seems about as improbable as a guy who has a 50/50 season and also just happens to be an ace pitcher. But ya never know I suppose.
Idk I kinda like the idea of not needing every GM to be a Harvard MBA. Nobody ever called Buster Posey a dummy and the Giants definitely need a kick in the rear end. Me too. But it seems like there's some danger of this being a sentimental choice and per wikipedia Posey's executive experience consists of 2 years on the Giants' board or directors (whatever that is/does). People were concerned that Breslow was too green but he had *way* more experience than that when the Red Sox hired him.
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 30, 2024 18:54:15 GMT -5
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Post by stevedillard on Sept 30, 2024 19:40:23 GMT -5
To the person that told them, look at the pain you caused.
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Post by cdj on Sept 30, 2024 20:18:11 GMT -5
I would love nothing more than for Ian Anderson to appear out of nowhere in game 1 and resume playoff dominance
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Post by keninten on Sept 30, 2024 23:46:47 GMT -5
Today 2 hitting coaches were fired. Just saying don`t things happen in 3`s.
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Post by cmax on Oct 1, 2024 5:42:15 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see how Bloom does in St Louis once he fully takes over baseball operations there in 2026. I will be rooting for him to do well (as long as the Red Sox are not playing the Cardinals).
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Post by ephus on Oct 1, 2024 8:49:52 GMT -5
Cubs fired 1st Base Coach Mike Napoli. Cubs had a 82.91% stolen base succes rate. That works. Bring Nap back to Boylston Street.
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