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Post by asm18 on Apr 24, 2024 15:54:55 GMT -5
So Cora is saying Yoshida is the everyday DH and they just needed the spot for Devers and O’Neill the last couple days, okay, maybe, but: 1) Why start Heinemen on Sunday when this was a likelihood? Just to be nice to him? Yeah that’s the thing that doesn’t really check out. Whether that’s load management, match-up decision, internal drama, Cora has a secret vendetta against Yoshida - we just don’t know what’s up
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 24, 2024 15:58:21 GMT -5
Crawford could (in theory) go tomorrow on 4 days rest rather than the 5 he's been planning on.
Winck would then have game 1 of the Cubs series and Houck game 3, but they'd have no one for game 2. Having Pivetta skip a rehab start would ordinarily be a bad idea, but ... it may still be a bad idea. The Cubs' 64 wRC+ is minor-league quality, but if it turns out that he needs 2 or more rehab starts, you're hosed. The Giants, up next, have a 100 and his third start would be against the Braves. Right now, I' might take the gamble. Maybe.
OR (if it's too late to change Crawford's date) ...
Crawford on his existing schedule and a bullpen game tomorrow ... Criswell would have to go somewhat deep tonight to male that work. That would solve the Cubs problem.
They have an off day between the Cubs and Giants and another a week later, so that will help.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 24, 2024 16:02:21 GMT -5
I mean, it seems pretty likely that Yoshida is dealing with something that they're not going to talk about if they don't have to, and also that they have very little interest in having him start games in the OF.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 24, 2024 16:05:21 GMT -5
I mean, it seems pretty likely that Yoshida is dealing with something that they're not going to talk about if they don't have to, and also that they have very little interest in having him start games in the OF. That's what I had thought but then the reporting today makes it sound like he is frustrated by the lack of playing time. Of course lots could be lost in translation there.
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Post by wildsox on Apr 24, 2024 16:07:10 GMT -5
I mean, it seems pretty likely that Yoshida is dealing with something that they're not going to talk about if they don't have to, and also that they have very little interest in having him start games in the OF. That's what I had thought but then the reporting today makes it sound like he is frustrated by the lack of playing time. Of course lots could be lost in translation there. Have they tried giving him a 1st baseman’s glove yet?
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 24, 2024 16:11:59 GMT -5
I mean, it seems pretty likely that Yoshida is dealing with something that they're not going to talk about if they don't have to, and also that they have very little interest in having him start games in the OF. That's what I had thought but then the reporting today makes it sound like he is frustrated by the lack of playing time. Of course lots could be lost in translation there. Hmm, I haven't seen what you're talking about
I think the computer has real low opinion of Yoshida in the OF and the computer is running things for the most part. Hamilton continuing to play SS ahead of Rafaela when they're both no the field is something no human would do
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 24, 2024 16:14:35 GMT -5
That's what I had thought but then the reporting today makes it sound like he is frustrated by the lack of playing time. Of course lots could be lost in translation there. Hmm, I haven't seen what you're talking about
I think the computer has real low opinion of Yoshida in the OF and the computer is running things for the most part. Hamilton continuing to play SS ahead of Rafaela when they're both no the field is something no human would do
This is what I was referring to, though it's not 100% clear if the frustration is coming from Yoshida's side or the reports' sides but I interpreted it as the former. Also could be some guesswork by Cotillo.
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Post by cdj on Apr 24, 2024 16:20:12 GMT -5
That's what I had thought but then the reporting today makes it sound like he is frustrated by the lack of playing time. Of course lots could be lost in translation there. Hmm, I haven't seen what you're talking about
I think the computer has real low opinion of Yoshida in the OF and the computer is running things for the most part. Hamilton continuing to play SS ahead of Rafaela when they're both no the field is something no human would do
Computer wouldn’t do it either (and fortunately it doesn’t seem we have to worry about it every day anymore)
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Post by manfred on Apr 24, 2024 16:32:35 GMT -5
Hmm, I haven't seen what you're talking about
I think the computer has real low opinion of Yoshida in the OF and the computer is running things for the most part. Hamilton continuing to play SS ahead of Rafaela when they're both no the field is something no human would do
This is what I was referring to, though it's not 100% clear if the frustration is coming from Yoshida's side or the reports' sides but I interpreted it as the former. Also could be some guesswork by Cotillo. It could be frustration with an injury, though. I am Mr. Masa-hater, and even I’d find it odd to be sitting him unless it was physical. If he warms up, he’s a better hitter than 1/2 the lineup.
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Post by asm18 on Apr 24, 2024 16:33:37 GMT -5
This is what I was referring to, though it's not 100% clear if the frustration is coming from Yoshida's side or the reports' sides but I interpreted it as the former. Also could be some guesswork by Cotillo. I think this might just be a sign that Yoshida is extra considerate of his translator. It’s a hard job to be a translator, and we have no idea have what bookie in Revere he owes money to - so you can imagine the stress that he is under
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 24, 2024 16:34:18 GMT -5
...not really ever a witch hunt guy but do we have a training staff/conditioning issue or something Is there any chance the plan to throw off their breaking pitches rather than their fastballs is part of the reason for this? I need a nap badly, but the first thing I'm doing when I awake is to look at the degree of fastball reduction for each pitcher. If Crawford and Houck have the least change, that would be telling.
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Post by greenmonster on Apr 24, 2024 16:41:01 GMT -5
Hmm, I haven't seen what you're talking about I think the computer has real low opinion of Yoshida in the OF and the computer is running things for the most part. Hamilton continuing to play SS ahead of Rafaela when they're both no the field is something no human would do
This is what I was referring to, though it's not 100% clear if the frustration is coming from Yoshida's side or the reports' sides but I interpreted it as the former. Also could be some guesswork by Cotillo. Just watched the Cora comments and he is openly frustrated at the questions. More than I remember seeing from him..
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Apr 24, 2024 16:45:53 GMT -5
This is what I was referring to, though it's not 100% clear if the frustration is coming from Yoshida's side or the reports' sides but I interpreted it as the former. Also could be some guesswork by Cotillo. Just watched the Cora comments and he is openly frustrated at the questions. More than I remember seeing from him.. Welp, you are still in Boston Alex !!
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 24, 2024 16:46:58 GMT -5
Cora has played favorites since day 1 he obviously has a Bobby Dalbec infatuation, at least up until Bobby forces Breslow's hand and he's DFA'd.
Its really a shame, Yoshida has done everything thats been asked of him. He was starting to turn the bat on.
This team desperately needs offensive help. Yoshida should be in agaisnt every RH pitcher.
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Post by asm18 on Apr 24, 2024 16:51:28 GMT -5
(Click to read full comments - to Greenmonster’s point he did seem annoyed at the questions)
Well anyway, time for Cooper Criswell to throw a gem
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 24, 2024 16:56:35 GMT -5
Sitting Yoshida to bat Heineman against a lefty just is not a satisfactory explanation and that seems obvious so it's weird to see Cora get so worked up about being asked the question. They also didn't pinch hit him when it made sense to in that game.
They've also never said that Yoshida was strictly a DH (I think they had actually said the opposite, that there would be no full time DH), but he's acting as if that's well established. This part is a little less confusing to me though.
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 24, 2024 16:57:06 GMT -5
(Click to read full comments - to Greenmonster’s point he did seem annoyed at the questions) Well anyway, time for Cooper Criswell to throw a gem Thats all fine and good, and Id give Cora the benefit of the doubt, but does Yoshida understand Cora's thinking? I guess we'll have to see if and when the line-up stabilizes a bit.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 24, 2024 16:58:12 GMT -5
"...who didn't play Sunday because they were facing a lefty."
So he's a platoon DH? And even though his splits are negligible they're even going to sit him for *Tyler Heineman* if they're facing a lefty? But also "he's an everyday DH"?
Well gee, Alex, I'm sorry if this conversation makes you grouchy, but this doesn't make any freaking sense.
And it's the Sunday game that really makes this an issue. I think everyone would get it if it were just his sitting while O'Neill and Devers are worked into the lineup, but these aren't the first games they've kept Yoshida on the bench.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 24, 2024 17:00:59 GMT -5
My semi-joking-conspiracy-theory is that Cora just kind of biffed it; he sat Yoshida on Sunday meaning to give him a day off against a lefty with the day off Monday so he'd have two rest days in a row, but didn't think about the possibility of Devers and O'Neill returning in back to back games and is annoyed at himself for screwing that up but can't admit it so he's lashing out.
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Post by lronhoyabembe on Apr 24, 2024 17:03:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I think I would just sit Devers until he's healthy enough to play the field. What's the point in rushing him back from injury if you're bumping your third or fourth best hitter from the lineup for him anyways.
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Post by lronhoyabembe on Apr 24, 2024 17:05:38 GMT -5
My semi-joking-conspiracy-theory is that Cora just kind of biffed it; he sat Yoshida on Sunday meaning to give him a day off against a lefty with the day off Monday so he'd have two rest days in a row, but didn't think about the possibility of Devers and O'Neill returning in back to back games and is annoyed at himself for screwing that up but can't admit it so he's lashing out. I think this is probably pretty close to what happened. Cora likes to give players two days off when he can. But on Sunday, there was less clarity about when O'Neill and Devers would be available.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 24, 2024 17:06:11 GMT -5
My semi-joking-conspiracy-theory is that Cora just kind of biffed it; he sat Yoshida on Sunday meaning to give him a day off against a lefty with the day off Monday so he'd have two rest days in a row, but didn't think about the possibility of Devers and O'Neill returning in back to back games and is annoyed at himself for screwing that up but can't admit it so he's lashing out. You know... that makes a lot of sense.
Add: Though giving Yoshida the day off when Devers and O'Neill are both out of the lineup and you know they'll be back soon is still a weird decision on its own terms.
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Post by thelpc on Apr 24, 2024 17:08:03 GMT -5
Cora has played favorites since day 1 he obviously has a Bobby Dalbec infatuation, at least up until Bobby forces Breslow's hand and he's DFA'd. Its really a shame, Yoshida has done everything thats been asked of him. He was starting to turn the bat on. This team desperately needs offensive help. Yoshida should be in agaisnt every RH pitcher. He’s always done this. It’s why he kept running Kiké Hernandez out there at SS last season even though everyone with properly functioning eyes could see that he had no business playing the position. It pays to be one of the Friends of Cora™️
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Post by asm18 on Apr 24, 2024 17:10:19 GMT -5
My semi-joking-conspiracy-theory is that Cora just kind of biffed it; he sat Yoshida on Sunday meaning to give him a day off against a lefty with the day off Monday so he'd have two rest days in a row, but didn't think about the possibility of Devers and O'Neill returning in back to back games and is annoyed at himself for screwing that up but can't admit it so he's lashing out. I think this is probably pretty close to what happened. Cora likes to give players two days off when he can. But on Sunday, there was less clarity about when O'Neill and Devers would be available. Didn’t they initially say Devers and O’Neill were both supposed to be back yesterday? Yeah it sounds like either bad planning or a reasonable plan that went awry They showed his comments and my read is he’s annoyed because the questions are trying to make it seem like he doesn’t like Yoshida or that it’s personal, which I could see why that would piss him off. But I might be off there
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 24, 2024 17:11:21 GMT -5
I think this is probably pretty close to what happened. Cora likes to give players two days off when he can. But on Sunday, there was less clarity about when O'Neill and Devers would be available. Didn’t they initially say Devers and O’Neill were both supposed to be back yesterday? Yeah it sounds like either bad planning or a reasonable plan that went awry
They showed his comments and my read is he’s annoyed because the questions are trying to make it seem like he doesn’t like Yoshida, which I could see why that would piss him off. But I might be off there I would bet my lunch on the bolded.... Seems like every day someone on the sox gets injured...
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