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Post by radiohix on Apr 23, 2024 10:28:47 GMT -5
When he got drafted by the Sox, I remember Joe Doyle, who was working for Prospects Live at the time, posting a graphic showing that Meidroth has one the highest contact rate with pitchs in the zone while having one of the lowest 0-swing% in NCAA. From Speier’s piece today:
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 23, 2024 10:34:28 GMT -5
Without having access to EV, swing speed, or defense information, I have to say Meidroth looks to me like the most impressive Sox minor leaguer year to date. Running a 137 wRC+ on a 24% BB rate and 10% K Rate. Can't wait to see him in MLB later this year.
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Post by nomar on Apr 23, 2024 10:37:31 GMT -5
Without having access to EV, swing speed, or defense information, I have to say Meidroth looks to me like the most impressive Sox minor leaguer year to date. Running a 137 wRC+ on a 24% BB rate and 10% K Rate. Can't wait to see him in MLB later this year. RedSoxStats said his quality of contact has been really poor. He might walk 10-12% of the time in the MLB, but it won’t be 24% or anything close to it because MLB pitchers won’t have much to fear in terms of throwing him strikes. Still, consider me curious to see how he performs too.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 23, 2024 10:39:31 GMT -5
Chase Meidroth is gonna hit .250/.345/.345 in the bigs and you're gonna feel totally fine when he has to play every day for six weeks because of some injury
9th youngest hitter in AAA btw
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Post by cdj on Apr 23, 2024 10:47:14 GMT -5
I Stan new Mark Loretta
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Post by rhswanzey on Apr 23, 2024 10:48:27 GMT -5
Chase Meidroth is gonna hit .250/.345/.345 in the bigs and you're gonna feel totally fine when he has to play every day for six weeks because of some injury
9th youngest hitter in AAA btw
I‘m interested in whether he could handle spot duty in center field for late game shenanigans or covering during injury issues. I think the Brockstar was infield only when he first got to the show. Meidroth is a handy player even if he remains infield only, however.
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Post by entrylevelhitman on Apr 23, 2024 11:37:57 GMT -5
I know we don't typically hear about roster moves until close to game time, and everyone is waiting around to hear how things will shake out in the wake of Casas' injury. I'm hoping for a Meidroth promotion, made easier if they know enough to put Casas on the 60-day IL already. Meidroth is exactly the kind of low-ceiling/high-floor workmanlike guy I get excited about. I'd also get excited about a Sogard promotion, probably after Hamilton gets optioned.
Fangraphs has a Meidroth projection of .242/.342/.336 and an fWAR of 1.1, which I'd take in a heartbeat, given the rest of the infield performances so far.
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Post by 0ap0 on Apr 23, 2024 11:52:20 GMT -5
the kind of low-ceiling/high-floor workmanlike guy I get excited about. You animal
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Post by brendan98 on Apr 23, 2024 12:21:02 GMT -5
Has he played 1B? Not the ideal height, but he'd definitely be more mobile than most first baseman. Sure to give you a good AB, and a RH bat. Might be worth a look.
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Post by rhswanzey on Apr 23, 2024 12:51:19 GMT -5
Has he played 1B? Not the ideal height, but he'd definitely be more mobile than most first baseman. Sure to give you a good AB, and a RH bat. Might be worth a look. He’s only played 2B, 3B and SS before. I also learned he’s played more shortstop (which is not much) in our shortstop-stocked system than he did in college, although he did have some summer ball experience there as well. I think he could use some more AAA time. I’ve only seen a couple of his at bats this year, but I’ve gotta wonder what happens to him in the show without ABS and against a lot more velocity. I would prefer one of the AAAA types right now.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 23, 2024 12:58:11 GMT -5
I like Meidroth, he seems like a guy who while probably never a starter will be helpful to an ML squad. That being said I don't think I'd want to add him to the 40 and burn an option this year since he's unlikely to stick the rest of the season in the majors. He feels like the type of guy where those options could be very valuable as an up and down player at least early on in his MLB career. Hopefully he's able to just stick up in the majors but we'll see.
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Post by brendan98 on Apr 23, 2024 12:58:29 GMT -5
Has he played 1B? Not the ideal height, but he'd definitely be more mobile than most first baseman. Sure to give you a good AB, and a RH bat. Might be worth a look. He’s only played 2B, 3B and SS before. I also learned he’s played more shortstop (which is not much) in our shortstop-stocked system than he did in college, although he did have some summer ball experience there as well. I think he could use some more AAA time. I’ve only seen a couple of his at bats this year, but I’ve gotta wonder what happens to him in the show without ABS and against a lot more velocity. I would prefer one of the AAAA types right now. I get it, but another line of thinking might be that the reason they are "AAAA types" is that they aren't good enough to handle MLB pitching for any period of time. Maybe Meidroth, despite his limited experience in the upper levels, has the talent and approach to be successful against MLB pitching. I am doubtful he will be part of the 1B solution, just trying to think outside the box.
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Post by insanesoxfan on Apr 23, 2024 13:17:51 GMT -5
I like Meidroth, he seems like a guy who while probably never a starter will be helpful to an ML squad. That being said I don't think I'd want to add him to the 40 and burn an option this year since he's unlikely to stick the rest of the season in the majors. He feels like the type of guy where those options could be very valuable as an up and down player at least early on in his MLB career. Hopefully he's able to just stick up in the majors but we'll see. Agree with this on the options. Would rather see Kavadas up instead of Meidroth at the moment. I would also add that Niko, being 25 y/o, is closer to his "final"/"peak" ability than Meidroth is (22 y/o). Meidroth was in AA this time last year so I don't think there's a rush for a kid who isn't even a 1B to replace Casas at this moment.
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Post by entrylevelhitman on Apr 23, 2024 13:50:03 GMT -5
I like Meidroth, he seems like a guy who while probably never a starter will be helpful to an ML squad. That being said I don't think I'd want to add him to the 40 and burn an option this year since he's unlikely to stick the rest of the season in the majors. He feels like the type of guy where those options could be very valuable as an up and down player at least early on in his MLB career. Hopefully he's able to just stick up in the majors but we'll see. Agree with this on the options. Would rather see Kavadas up instead of Meidroth at the moment. I would also add that Niko, being 25 y/o, is closer to his "final"/"peak" ability than Meidroth is (22 y/o). Meidroth was in AA this time last year so I don't think there's a rush for a kid who isn't even a 1B to replace Casas at this moment. Kavadas is admittedly an interesting case because they have to make a decision on him this year anyway, right? He's Rule 5 eligible this Winter. He's done nothing but fall in the org rankings the last couple years, to the point where he seems unranked now (unless I'm missing his place in the rankings; sanity check me, please). Cora already commented that they're looking short-term at Reyes-Dalbec-Refsnyder at first, which either means that they play until soon-to-be-announced Cron/Belt/Votto is ready (if Casas is really out for most of the year), or it might mean that it's too early to disrupt minor league performance paths but in a month we'll know what the next 1B plan is, and that might be Kavadas (they're also playing Hickey at first, right?). I guess my feeling is, we have a lot of replacement-level players in the big leagues right now getting meaningful ABs in our infield, and we kind of know we're likely in for more of the same if we swap Hamilton for (say) Eddy Alvarez or Jamie Westbrook. We *might* have something more than that if we go with Meidroth or Sogard. In the case of Sogard, his time is now; he's 26 and will turn 27 in the Fall. In the case of Meidroth, OK, concerns abut rushing him or burning option years are justified. I get it. And maybe I'm letting the fan part of me override the armchair GM part. I'm completely OK watching the kids play, even if they take their lumps at the major league level. I'm less enthused about watching AAAA-types play if the kids are right there and have a decent shot at bringing more to the table than yet another replacement-level stat line. At a certain point, you have to actually do something with your farm system, right?
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Post by wamderingdude on Apr 23, 2024 14:44:40 GMT -5
I hate comparisons, but looking at brock holt’s savant page and the reports on Meidroth it’s hard not to see a comp there. Guys who can play multiple positions and hold their own at the plate approach wise are generally pretty valuable as a bench player, even with the limited exit velocity and quality of contact.
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Post by bettsonmookie on Apr 23, 2024 17:33:51 GMT -5
One thing we know with relative certainty is that the offense is going to be LH heavy for the foreseeable future:
Devers Casas Marcelo Roman Anthony Kyle Teel Duran/Wilyer/Yoshida*
Meidroth is going to be a rich man’s Christian Arroyo, which will be even more valuable for a team with a lot of LHH.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Apr 23, 2024 20:54:20 GMT -5
Meidroth: 40 batted balls, 13 hard hit (9 grounders), top 5 EVs: 108, 105, 105, 105, 102
Hickey is 13/39, he gets almost all his hard hit balls elevated in the sweet spot, though.
Romy, Kavadas, Contreras all posting around 50% Hard Hit rates so far.
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Post by christianarroyossock on Apr 23, 2024 21:10:12 GMT -5
One thing we know with relative certainty is that the offense is going to be LH heavy for the foreseeable future: Devers Casas Marcelo Roman Anthony Kyle Teel Duran/Wilyer/Yoshida* Meidroth is going to be a rich man’s Christian Arroyo, which will be even more valuable for a team with a lot of LHH. YES PLEASE.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 28, 2024 13:15:20 GMT -5
Through 90 PA at AAA, Meidroth's BB and K numbers are pretty wild. He's at an 8.9% K rate, a stat which stabilizes around 60 PA. BB rate stabilizes around 120 PA, but he's at 21% now; if he doesn't take a single walk in his next 30 PAs he'd still have about a 16% BB rate when he gets to 120.
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Post by pappyman99 on Apr 29, 2024 9:26:48 GMT -5
Yeah at some point the numbers don’t lie. Curious if we are trending towards a lineup of meidroth at 2B and Grissom at LF
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Post by incandenza on Apr 29, 2024 9:56:50 GMT -5
There is starting to be a pile-up at 2B. Grissom is the starter, and then you have Hamilton and Valdez, who are both lefties but can also both only play 2B. And then Yorke, who's a righty and can only play 2B (or maybe LF I guess). Only Meidroth seems to have any real positional flexibility out of the whole group. He's probably the one I'd most want to keep at this point.
It's too bad Valdez got off to such a slow start this season; it would have been nice if he had helped his trade value. In any case, I would bet that at least one of these guys is gone by the trade deadline.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 29, 2024 9:59:46 GMT -5
There is starting to be a pile-up at 2B. Grissom is the starter, and then you have Hamilton and Valdez, who are both lefties but can also both only play 2B. And then Yorke, who's a righty and can only play 2B (or maybe LF I guess). Only Meidroth seems to have any real positional flexibility out of the whole group. He's probably the one I'd most want to keep at this point. It's too bad Valdez got off to such a slow start this season; it would have been nice if he had helped his trade value. In any case, I would bet that at least one of these guys is gone by the trade deadline.Probably correct but according to the site it appears they both have two options remaining so it's possible they could be kept around another year since they at the very least seem like viable AAAA players and perhaps still have some upside to become true MLBers even if just bench pieces.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 29, 2024 10:04:24 GMT -5
Can you fit them all in AAA though? Pablo Reyes and Romy Gonzalez are also in the picture here...
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 29, 2024 11:03:17 GMT -5
Can you fit them all in AAA though? Pablo Reyes and Romy Gonzalez are also in the picture here... Pablo Reyes was DFA'd today which I only just found about because I googled him to check his FG page. True it is a fair amount of overlapping players even with Reyes DFAd now.
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Post by GyIantosca on Apr 29, 2024 11:09:38 GMT -5
You see this kid . The big 3. Yorke. I’m hoping for Jordan too on the bench a big bat that can help out. What an influx of additional talent.
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